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Re: LIRR graffiti incident |
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Posted by jabrams on Mon Feb 15 18:03:00 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Feb 15 17:26:35 2010. What ever happened with the graffiting 13 year old that was killed by the LIRR train. Did the LIRR settle out of court, or was their a lawsuit? |
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Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway Train |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 15 18:19:27 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway Train, posted by davesgcr on Mon Feb 15 15:15:08 2010. You'd think that would be cut and dried, right? If you aren't where you ought to be, then bam, you are never at risk of being hit by the train. I guess that common sense isn't so common anymore, never mind the rule of law. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 15 18:19:37 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway Train, posted by davesgcr on Mon Feb 15 15:15:08 2010. You'd think that would be cut and dried, right? If you aren't where you ought to be, then bam, you are never at risk of being hit by the train. I guess that common sense isn't so common anymore, never mind the rule of law. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 15 18:19:52 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway Train, posted by davesgcr on Mon Feb 15 15:15:08 2010. You'd think that would be cut and dried, right? If you are where you ought to be, then bam, you are never at risk of being hit by the train. I guess that common sense isn't so common anymore, never mind the rule of law. |
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Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 15 18:48:23 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Mon Feb 15 17:37:12 2010. i hate vandals too. but he was very young, and could've outgrown it, and gone on to be a good person. i don't think he deserved to lose a leg, but at the same time, i don't think his family deserves a penny either. |
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Posted by bigbusdriver on Mon Feb 15 19:05:55 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 15 18:48:23 2010. He can still go on to be a good person. And he will also be a person that saves ALOT of money on sock purchases! |
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Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Feb 15 19:09:33 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Railman718 on Mon Feb 15 17:25:40 2010. Misplaced the I huh? ;o)Guilty as charged. BTW that T/O passed away last year.... Too bad about that T/O. Hopefully not work related. RIP. |
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Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 15 19:13:55 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Feb 15 17:23:21 2010. T/O said something to the effect of 'it looked like a big piece of garbage on the track'.Is this the case that happened on IRT Lexington, southbound, around Canal or Brooklyn Bridge? |
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Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Feb 15 19:44:37 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by RailBus63 on Mon Feb 15 15:32:18 2010. That is an even better reason to use correct grammar - ''Graffiti Teen' Hit by Train' would have been more concise.LTrue, but hit by train could mean commuter rail or freight. Subway defines which type of train. Maybe that was their point. Bill Newkirk |
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Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Feb 15 20:08:50 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by arnine on Mon Feb 15 17:13:24 2010. Hold your breath and check out the website Streetsaresayinthings.com. THis is an absolute disgrace. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Feb 15 20:11:18 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Feb 15 17:18:21 2010. Now if these idiots would follow your lead and stick to cyberspace only, that would be okay. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Feb 15 20:16:59 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by rbseabeach on Mon Feb 15 20:11:18 2010. Lefty is because all he has is a left leg........................ |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Feb 15 20:17:06 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Mon Feb 15 17:37:12 2010. agreed |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Feb 15 20:20:22 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 15 18:48:23 2010. check out gothamist.com/2006/11/28/cops_graffiti_v.php. Look how this idiot outgrew it. 37 and still goin strong!! |
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Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Feb 15 20:20:52 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Feb 15 19:09:33 2010. lol |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Feb 15 20:22:07 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 15 19:13:55 2010. Is this the case that happened on IRT Lexington, southbound, around Canal or Brooklyn Bridge?Negative this was a drunk that fell to the roadbed on the November cant remember which station. |
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Posted by arnine on Mon Feb 15 20:22:21 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by rbseabeach on Mon Feb 15 20:08:50 2010. It is a disgrace. It is glorifying it ewww. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 15 20:27:46 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Railman718 on Mon Feb 15 20:22:07 2010. Oh. So many dangers facing a T/O every day. I hope the T/O in each case is ok. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Feb 15 20:30:10 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 15 20:27:46 2010. It is what it is Luch i tell you listening to that Radio when all of this went down kinda brought back a bad memory of my own.. |
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Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 15 20:33:19 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Railman718 on Mon Feb 15 20:30:10 2010. yeah. i know. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Feb 15 20:47:50 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 15 19:13:55 2010. I forget which station, but he'd gotten drunk, fell off the platform, and part of him met the business end of an N train (if I'm recalling right)There was another one, similar, but several years before that that reached verdict just about the same time. Another drunk, fell off the platform, and received the amputation courtesy of NYCT. The issues in that one were the slow speed of the train and multiple witnesses who said that the train could have stopped but didn't. Jury found something like 65/35 liability split but they were both multimillion dollar verdicts. Both on appeal now, as I recall. There's a decent chance that the second one will be reversed, I think, for technical reasons. Not sure about the first. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 15 20:54:59 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Feb 15 20:47:50 2010. Yup. These people or their families are rewarded for their alcoholism, yet the woman who was RAPED on the G line, got NOTHING! It makes no sense. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Feb 15 21:06:52 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 15 20:54:59 2010. Remember that the liability findings are premised on 'could've stopped, should've stopped, didn't stop'. I think that NYCT's legal team didn't do too well. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Feb 15 21:11:18 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 15 07:57:59 2010. What an absolute disgrace. Of course they'll sue, and of course they'll win. What ever happened to commion sense- ie, the notion that stupidity DOESN'T pay? |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Feb 15 21:19:21 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 15 11:20:26 2010. Limb amputatuion is not an acceptable judicial punishment for what is, I must admit, a minor crime.But if it happens to you while you are committing what anyone should know is an illegal at, you should not be rewarded in the slightest. He should definitely be charged with tresppassing and/or vandalism. The TA can even use the fact that he was committing an illegal act to hopefully, lower their financial liability. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 15 21:29:14 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Feb 15 21:06:52 2010. Well, the lawyer in the drunk passenger case argued that it's against TA rules to be drunk on TA property and TA never should have allowed the drunk passenger to enter TA property. |
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Posted by Mr Volt on Mon Feb 15 21:49:40 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by rbseabeach on Mon Feb 15 20:20:22 2010. RB you have a serious obsession with Graffiti. Get a life already with all your ranting. It's paint or ink on a surface. Big effing deal. Their are a lot more things in life and on the trains to worry about. I find the trains the advertisements the MTA put on the side of trains are far worse. Even better yet a car full of one companies advert. I feel like I'm in a the John Carpenter movie "They Live". |
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Posted by Mr Volt on Mon Feb 15 21:59:21 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by arnine on Mon Feb 15 11:57:14 2010. Hello, the kid lost an effing leg painting graffiti. It's effing paint for crying out loud. Let's cut his arm off next. You people are ridiculous. You act like this is a violent crime. Kid loses a leg, surely he won't be writing his name again. I'm sure he would of took a year in jail for painting his name over losing his leg. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Feb 15 22:03:04 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Feb 15 21:11:18 2010. Remember when interurbans ran on third rail in the country!Couldn't happen today. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 15 22:38:42 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Mr Volt on Mon Feb 15 21:59:21 2010. Aha, looks like we found our newest troll. Sorry, but R9's right; the kid should get a charge, whether poetic justice occurred or not. You're the ridiculous one. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 15 22:40:20 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 15 11:21:28 2010. There is the concept of being punished enoughYes, and this doesn't fit. The subway train is not a judge or jury; it's an innocent victim. |
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Posted by Mr Volt on Mon Feb 15 22:56:16 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 15 22:38:42 2010. A troll because I commented that the kid received more punishment then any jail sentence. Your the one that is the troll here. |
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Posted by WillD on Mon Feb 15 23:55:37 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by rbseabeach on Mon Feb 15 16:07:50 2010. Why are you repainting fire hydrants? Do you know what a pain in the ass it is to remove a cap which has been painted on? I don't care if it's graffiti or some person with good intentions, but a fire hydrant with its port cap locked on with paint could waste precious minutes during a fire. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Feb 16 00:37:56 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Railman718 on Mon Feb 15 17:05:06 2010. If any members of the jury decides to vote in favor of giving this idiot any sum of money, that person[s] should be the ones to pony up their money first and cover 100% "if they feel so sorry for the kid". |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Feb 16 00:38:25 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Mon Feb 15 17:37:12 2010. Excellent post! Agreed 1000% |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Feb 16 00:39:15 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Feb 15 17:18:21 2010. lmao! |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Feb 16 01:39:26 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 15 20:54:59 2010. The woman who was raped sued individual TA employees, claiming that they should have acted as impromptu cops. That she was raped is tragic, but her claim was clearly baseless. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Feb 16 01:41:15 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Feb 15 21:11:18 2010. Actually, you generally can't win a completely baseless claim. Sure, it's not quite as drastic in this case, but if you're robbing a house and get injured in the process, you can't sue the owner. That's a pretty firmly established principle. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 16 02:09:09 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Nilet on Mon Feb 15 15:12:17 2010. Thank you for making sense. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 16 02:09:41 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by arnine on Mon Feb 15 15:17:52 2010. He shouldn't serve a punishment. |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Feb 16 03:26:48 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 15 21:29:14 2010. Ok guess we will all have to pass a Breathalizer test to get into the subway now it will be swipe and blow |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Feb 16 03:33:59 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 15 22:38:42 2010. Thank you the kid did it to himself. The courts didn't. He should be charged and punished accordingly |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Feb 16 03:45:14 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 16 02:09:41 2010. I still disagree he has yet to be tried for his crimes sorry his loss of leg was his own doing gotten while committing a crime |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 16 10:44:42 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway Train, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 15 18:19:52 2010. Worth saying once, worth saying three times.I'd say it even more if that would help. Silly Villains have no place on the tracks under any circumstance. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 16 10:45:52 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by bigbusdriver on Mon Feb 15 19:05:55 2010. ☺And if I had said that they would accuse me of being insensitive, or worse yet, a conservative. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 16 11:11:12 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Mr Volt on Mon Feb 15 21:59:21 2010. He was committing a crime: Trespassing and Vandalism.He lost his leg due to his own stupidity. He his lucky he did not loose his life. Trespassing on railroad property is a CAPITAL offense, and there is no possibility of appeal. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 16 11:16:39 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Mr Volt on Mon Feb 15 22:56:16 2010. He did not receive any punishment.The loss of his leg is not punishment. Punishments are meted out by a judge. He has not (AFIK) even been charged with anything yet let alone appearing before a judge. He SHOULD be charged and tried for trespassing and vandalism, and a judge will then determine a penalty or punishment, and he may at that time take into account the loss of the man's leg. He lost his leg as a result of his own stupidity and carelessness. That is not the affair of the MTA, NYC, or the judicial system. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 16 11:20:54 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Mr Volt on Mon Feb 15 22:56:16 2010. The LION does NOT believe that a jail sentence is appropriate for this sort of vandalism. Were this behavior to continue, then yes, there is nothing else to be done but to jail the individual.The LION does not think that a fine will deter this kind of behavior. What are we to do, wait until he repeats enough times to qualify for jail time? LION doesn't think so. LION *would* like to bring back Corporal Punishment. The miscreant should be caned for an offense like this. As a punishment, caning would have to be ordered as a punishment by a judge after a trial and conviction. It would have to be carried out by a skilled officer. This will make an impression on a kid. Jails and Fines do not. ROAR |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Feb 16 12:12:37 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway Train, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 16 10:44:42 2010. absolutely |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Feb 16 12:13:54 2010, in response to Re: 'Graffiti Teen' Hit By Subway, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 16 11:11:12 2010. agreed |
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