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R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?

Posted by Dj Hammers on Tue Apr 10 21:53:53 2012

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Besides the style of lighting, are there any other differences between the interior of the R32 and the interior of the R38?

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Re: R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Apr 10 22:31:08 2012, in response to R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?, posted by Dj Hammers on Tue Apr 10 21:53:53 2012.

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Pre-GOH or Post-GOH?

Pre-GOH: there were differences WITHIN the R32s - #3800-3949 had backlit advertising and different fans. This carried over to the R38 fleet. R38 had different louver patterns on the car ceiling. The lighting style that defined R38 carried over to R40 (non-A/C). There were different grilles on the ceilings as well as a non-continuous light bar down the car ceiling centre. Same fans as prototyped in the R32 #3800-3949. Also a small light in front of the ad panel over the storm doors.

Post-GOH: Backlit advertising/ambient lighting. Curly bars. Grab bars by the doors.

wayne


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Re: R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?

Posted by Dj Hammers on Tue Apr 10 23:20:55 2012, in response to Re: R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Apr 10 22:31:08 2012.

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Yes I am talking about post-GOH.

What do you mean by Curly bars?

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Re: R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?

Posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Wed Apr 11 08:06:32 2012, in response to Re: R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?, posted by Dj Hammers on Tue Apr 10 23:20:55 2012.

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The R38 and the handful or R32 cars overhauled by GE, the grab-bar bent down and around and ended next to the door rather than turning up to the ceiling as in the rest of the R32 cars. (The GE-overhauled R32 also had backlit advertising like the R38.)

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Re: R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?

Posted by andy on Wed Apr 11 11:48:57 2012, in response to Re: R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?, posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Wed Apr 11 08:06:32 2012.

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Liked those "curly bars". Made it easy to reach the bars standing near the doors. The R32s remaining have the higher bar which is tougher to reach (and I'm 5-10; must be really bad to reach for a short person).

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Re: R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?

Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 11 18:27:54 2012, in response to R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?, posted by Dj Hammers on Tue Apr 10 21:53:53 2012.

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The 6" or so wide panel over the picture window: on R32 (and prior cars), it was a flat panel sloped in. On the R38, it was just a flat, vertical panel.

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Re: R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Apr 11 18:49:16 2012, in response to R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?, posted by Dj Hammers on Tue Apr 10 21:53:53 2012.

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In addition to what others have said:

The R38 windows were larger.
The R38 floors never got replaced with the black n blue ones.

Fewer vertical poles (IIRC, R38 had 6, R32 GE had 10, and regular R32 has 8).

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Re: R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?

Posted by HANDBRAKE on Wed Apr 11 20:50:27 2012, in response to Re: R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Apr 11 18:49:16 2012.

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R38 interior (Platform) door vertical moldings were all stainless, as opposed to half stainless or aluminum add on covers which were typical on all NYCT equipment after the R17 order.

Half the R32 GOH fleet was retrofitted with full length stainless interior door moldings, while the other half had none, and only with painted moldings.

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Re: R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Apr 12 13:42:38 2012, in response to Re: R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?, posted by Dj Hammers on Tue Apr 10 23:20:55 2012.

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R38 (and R32GE) curly bar interior:



R32 interior:



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Re: R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?

Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Apr 12 15:08:22 2012, in response to R32 vs. R38 Interior Differences?, posted by Dj Hammers on Tue Apr 10 21:53:53 2012.

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Don't forget the interior of the T/O (nee motorman) cab on the 38s.

First changes in eons: flat console instead of individual stands for throttle and brake handles. Indication and brake gauge on the LEFT side, new style throttle for Westinghouse equipped units, throttle cover (green!) (and flat head instead of mushroom) for GE equipped units, electrically operated windshield wipers replacing manual ones.

There's a pic at nycsubway.org that's labeled as an R32 cab, but the layout clearly is for an R38.

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