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El Accident

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 07:26:28 2010

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Wow, this must have been something. I never remember hearing about this accident where a train fell off the el:



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Re: El Accident

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 31 07:45:46 2010, in response to El Accident, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 07:26:28 2010.

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That was on the 5th Avenue el, right near the LIRR Depot (at right). The train split a switch.

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Re: El Accident, Another One

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 31 08:18:37 2010, in response to El Accident, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 07:26:28 2010.

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I recall reading about that. 5th Ave right/

Here are more exclusive pictures, from my small collection, of a more recent el accident (10 yrs?) near Fordham on the 4. Train was OOS,thank God.

The interior damage is just plain frightening


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Re: El Accident, Another One

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Jul 31 22:30:34 2010, in response to Re: El Accident, Another One, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 31 08:18:37 2010.

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Oh, so that's what happened to 1366-70.

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Re: El Accident

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 31 22:37:09 2010, in response to Re: El Accident, posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 31 07:45:46 2010.

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IIRC, wasn't this the accident which sent the BRT into bankruptcy and forced it to re-organize into the BMT?

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Re: El Accident

Posted by BMTLines on Sat Jul 31 22:47:38 2010, in response to El Accident, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 07:26:28 2010.

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I never saw that view before. This is the view from the picture in my collection:

The newspaper reports indicated 7 dead and 70 injured.

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Re: El Accident

Posted by BMTLines on Sat Jul 31 22:52:40 2010, in response to Re: El Accident, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 31 22:37:09 2010.

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No - that was the Malbone St Wreck 5 years earlier. This accident happened on June 25th 1923, barely a month after the new BMT took over operations.

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Re: El Accident

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 31 22:58:22 2010, in response to El Accident, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 07:26:28 2010.

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The steelwork extending out the right side of the el was the old connection to the LIRR?

What was the elevated structure running along Atlantic?

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Re: El Accident

Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 23:11:48 2010, in response to El Accident, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 07:26:28 2010.

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You were probably too young to remember.

Do you remember when the Chicago L train fell down to the street?



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Re: El Accident

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 08:12:53 2010, in response to Re: El Accident, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 23:11:48 2010.

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I think the image is blocked.

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Re: El Accident

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 1 08:30:15 2010, in response to Re: El Accident, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 23:11:48 2010.

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In 1977? I remember that yeay very well.

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Re: El Accident

Posted by seabeachexpress on Sun Aug 1 09:10:58 2010, in response to Re: El Accident, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 23:11:48 2010.

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Pot-smoking motorman.

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Re: El Accident

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 09:51:03 2010, in response to Re: El Accident, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 08:12:53 2010.

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Oh, funny, it's working now....

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Re: El Accident

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Aug 1 09:59:11 2010, in response to Re: El Accident, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 31 22:58:22 2010.

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What was the elevated structure running along Atlantic?

That was the LIRR connection to the 5th Ave 'el".



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Re: El Accident

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 1 12:41:04 2010, in response to Re: El Accident, posted by BMTLines on Sat Jul 31 22:52:40 2010.

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Something else about this accident made history. It was the one and only clue I had to the existence of the 5th Ave el before discovering nycsubway.org, so it had to be important enough to make it into a newspaper.

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Re: El Accident

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 16:33:09 2010, in response to Re: El Accident, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 1 12:41:04 2010.

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I learned most of my "subway Knowledge" before nycsubway.org (although of course learned there too), but I bought Brian Chuday's book "Under the Sidewalks of NY" at the Transit Museum in the late 80's, and that book is like the Bible of subrailfans....

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Re: El Accident

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 1 18:33:30 2010, in response to Re: El Accident, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Aug 1 09:59:11 2010.

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It doesn't look properly aligned to the steelwork along the 5th Avenue El.

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Re: El Accident

Posted by Mellow One on Sun Aug 1 20:40:07 2010, in response to Re: El Accident, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 1 18:33:30 2010.

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Well. it is on Flatbush Ave.

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Re: El Accident

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 1 20:58:44 2010, in response to Re: El Accident, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 1 18:33:30 2010.

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It's on Atlantic.

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Re: El Accident

Posted by bzuck on Sun Aug 1 21:31:08 2010, in response to El Accident, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 07:26:28 2010.

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Wasen't there a LO-V that fell off the El somewhere near New Lots?

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Re: El Accident

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Aug 1 22:00:27 2010, in response to Re: El Accident, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 1 18:33:30 2010.

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It doesn't look properly aligned to the steelwork along the 5th Avenue El.

"ELEVATED CONNECTION WITH FIFTH AVENUE EL WAS USED 1899-1904
THEN SERVED AS PART OF TEMPORARY TERMINAL FOR STEAM TRAINS
UNTIL FULL ELECTRIFICATION."

From Arrt's Archives. Scroll down a bit.


Bill Newkirk



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Re: El Accident

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Aug 1 22:04:42 2010, in response to Re: El Accident, posted by bzuck on Sun Aug 1 21:31:08 2010.

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Wasen't there a LO-V that fell off the El somewhere near New Lots?

Yes, but it was after you leave the tunnel portal and enter the 'el'. It was a work train with a crane.

Bill Newkirk


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