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Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jan 10 14:26:36 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by G1Ravage on Sun Jan 10 14:24:29 2010. Tell me about it lotta testosterone flowing huh? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jan 10 23:31:47 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by jimmymc25 on Sun Jan 10 02:50:55 2010. Hey...It's apparently clear that you and a few others have completely misunderstood Why I said what I said. I DON'T EXPLAIN my actions to the misinformed often..so take it as a boon. If Bill didn't act like a jerk THROUGHOUT the ENTIRE thread..it would not have came to this...It's NOT WHAT HE SAID..ITS HOW HE SAID IT. I'm not a thin skinned person...dealing with irate passengers in a hurry to get where they want to go..dealing with editors with "tude" that tell you "you MUST HAVE YOUR PAGES IN BY SUCH AND SUCH DATE OR ELSE.."..This place is a cake walk. I call it as I see it,son..thats what I do..some don't like it..some blow it up to be more than it is..BUT it IS WHAT IT IS..and its not that serious. More to the point..a few here thrive off causing controversy,flooding the board with nonsense..posting constant flame bait...looking to engage with someone...ANYONE..to flex their "verbal dash" with... I don't need to do crap like that..and the folks that do have real issues to deal with.. Maybe they didn't get enough mothers milk..or got their teddy taken away too early..or was a very spiteful kid turned adult...or gets off on creating havok. Never the less..this thread has opened up a torrent of flameage..right up the alley of the sickly folks described above...Yourself included. Asshole?..perhaps..at a time or another..we ALL can be. One thing I've learned over the years..you can be THAT without trying..it's being nice..respectful..honest..loving..heartfelt..and just plain decent that takes CONSTANT WORK. So,whatever you may think after this is on you..but then again I never did put too much faith into PEOPLE...nor their opinions.Like I said..I gave you this as a gift. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jan 10 23:48:53 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 10 09:56:48 2010. Brian..Brian..Brian...I'm so glad you happen to know me so well. First..Im not gonna jump into some stupid monolog for your personal enjoyment.. Lets just say this.. ...even working from home..I make more money than you. Driving my bus..I made more money than You.. The Home I'm selling right now..?[out of the 3 we own]is More than your is worth[even you even own a home].. My Daughter drives a better car than You EVER will..and That was just a graduation gift. Beautiful wife..2.5 children, saved..nice life. I can go on..but I don't see a need...You get the point. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Jan 11 02:28:08 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Michael549 on Sun Jan 10 12:02:40 2010. If you're going to do that, then it should be a rush hour line in both directions. The layups I can understand, but in the reverse peak direction outside Manhattan, the trains are likely to be empty.That's why I said Essex Street for peak direction only. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 11 05:00:39 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 9 04:39:34 2010. Avenue C Cuphandle now!Instead of the crazy Avenue C Cuphandle it would be better to have a new service branch off the (L) at 14th St and go down Avenue C/Pitt St to E. Broadway and join the (F) into the Rutgers St tunnel and be a daytime express along the Culver Line. The (F) could be reduced to 10 TPH. It would be joined by a 6 TPH Orange (M) via Christie at Bway/Lafayette. These combined services would service Queens. Four of the six (M) trains would run express all the way to 179th. The (F) and (E) would flip Queens terminals. Two of the (M) trains would go to Jamaica Center. The (V) would also go via Christie and run local to Woodhaven Blvd after which it would turn north and "leap" unto the Old Rock and join itself at 63rd Rd and become a circular route. That would give 71st St the room to run the (G) there 24/7. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 11 05:02:49 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 11 05:00:39 2010. I failed to add that a 3rd track would be built down Jamaica Av and the (J) would run express after Woodhaven Blvd with stops at Cypress Hills, Bway Jct, Myrtle and Marcy. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 11 05:26:51 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sat Jan 9 15:23:00 2010. I think that we means is that the (F) and (V) cannot simultananouly be at W4 St. Station. Same with the (E) and (C). Therefore delays if any would be minimal. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 11 06:29:18 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jan 10 23:48:53 2010. Nope. Bill is not an asshole in this thread. Only Edwards is (and when is Edwards NOT an asshole?). And Edwards does not have a bunch of good things going for him in his life. From the way he posts, he's a sad old man. |
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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 11 09:40:37 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 12:28:00 2010. I gave nothing but the facts. |
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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 11 09:41:15 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 9 01:59:38 2010. nope, you're wrong again, as usual. |
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Re: QUESTION: Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train. |
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Posted by GIS Man on Mon Jan 11 09:49:21 2010, in response to Re: QUESTION: Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 9 04:45:27 2010. And ma is why |
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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Jan 11 09:51:58 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 11 09:40:37 2010. Did not state otherwise. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Mon Jan 11 10:08:55 2010, in response to Re: Rush Hour Nassau Street train, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Jan 11 02:28:08 2010. Again the problem with Essex Street is that the middle track, the track that would be used for trains to reverse direction, are NOW currently occupied by trains traveling across the Williamsburg Bridge to Brooklyn and Queens. Translation - it is not a good idea to reverse trains on a track where at the same time there are in-coming through trains.Either the Chambers Street station would have to be used for the peak direction only trains, or those trains are sent across the Williamsburg Bridge to be dealt with at Eastern Parkway, or Metropolitan Avenue. The Essex Street station would not be a good place to terminate and relay those peak direction only trains, while at the same time, merging and separating the M/V trains, the station only has three tracks. One at Essex Street is used for all downtown Manhattan bound trains. The middle track is NOW currently used for all J and M trains bound to Queens. At present I do not believe that there are switches to move these trains to the outer uptown side track. The uptown side track is not used, but would be used for the Williamsburg Bridge bound M/V trains. See the track map. Mike |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Jan 11 10:20:49 2010, in response to Re: Rush Hour Nassau Street train, posted by Michael549 on Mon Jan 11 10:08:55 2010. Mike there is a switch north of Bowery that can take a train from J 3/4 track(which would be the middle track) to J1 Track(the outside track) at Essex Street..Now if you are talking from the Chrystie Cut going towards the bridge there is no switch there.. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Mon Jan 11 12:42:35 2010, in response to Re: Rush Hour Nassau Street train, posted by Railman718 on Mon Jan 11 10:20:49 2010. There is a track map on NYCSubway.Org, and I am looking at my old copy of Subway Tracks of NYC, copyright 1999. On those maps, it appears that Jamaica and Metropolitan Avenue bound trains upon leaving the Chambers Street station is traveling along track J4, for example at the Bowery Station what would usually be called the downtown express track. This track leads directly into the Essex Street station as the middle track, then called J-3/4, at least in my book. The book that I have, and the Chrystie Street Cut map on NYC-Subway.Org seems to show that there isn't a track switch directly from J-3/4 to the outside track called J-1 (at least on my map).What I was trying to say was not that a train could not be reversed on J-3/4 back to J-2 and headed toward Broad Street. My point was that doing such a reversal of trains, in the midst of rush hours where trains are traveling frequently across the Williamsburg Bridge into Brooklyn and then Queens. All of the while downtown trains are traveling on J2 through to Broad Street, and elsewhere. It was about a mix of activities all at the same time. Mike |
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Posted by Michael549 on Mon Jan 11 12:47:06 2010, in response to Re: Rush Hour Nassau Street train, posted by Michael549 on Mon Jan 11 12:42:35 2010. Has the track map - switch situation changed?Mike |
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Re: Replacing the M with V train |
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Posted by straphanger9 on Mon Jan 11 13:19:57 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 11 05:26:51 2010. No, what he means is that if you flip the south terminals of the (C) and (V) and you do NOT flip the south terminals of the (E) and (F) also, when a (C) train arrives at W4 at the same time as an (F), one train or the other must "go first" and the other must wait for that train to move in front of it.Therefore, other trains behind the one being held get delayed (in the case of the C letting the F go ahead, an E train is delayed - in the case of the F letting the C go ahead, a V is delayed). Those other trains get delayed for a minute or two. Because of the frequency of the service along these lines, that can be expected to happen several times an hour which would cause delays that are unacceptable to the level of service desired, as well as the running times desired. These delays will cause trains running late to have to be ordered to skip stops later along their runs, to keep service running smoothly and the trains spaced properly to avoid bunching and very uneven ridership patterns along trains that run the same route, which also cause delays. There is no avoiding that if the (C) and (V) switch south terminals. It's just the reality of "two trains cannot occupy the same space in one time" and the fact that it takes time for trains to go over switches and for the next train to receive the lineup onto the same track after the first train has cleared enough to begin moving the second train. |
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Re: Combing Stations to create a J/M-G Transfer |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Jan 11 13:36:12 2010, in response to Re: Combing Stations to create a J/M-G Transfer, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jan 9 05:25:29 2010. Right, It also would provide easy access to and from downtown Brooklyn, it would also relive the L to Lorimer if the V went to Metropolitan. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 11 13:48:24 2010, in response to Re: Combing Stations to create a J/M-G Transfer, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jan 9 05:25:29 2010. There is really no need. The closed northern mezzanine at Hewes St. station is close enough to Union Ave to provide said connection. Broadway on the G has massive amounts of abandoned mezzanines/trackways that would minimize tunneling. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jan 11 18:31:50 2010, in response to Re: Combing Stations to create a J/M-G Transfer, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jan 9 05:25:29 2010. I would love a new station like that, it would be way easier to get to Williamsburg. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 11 19:01:10 2010, in response to Re: Combing Stations to create a J/M-G Transfer, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jan 9 05:25:29 2010. Also, it would save money on having only one station agent as opposed to 3. Only one elevated station to maintain as opposed to two, and of course, the in system transfer. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 11 19:03:02 2010, in response to Re: Rush Hour Nassau Street train, posted by Michael549 on Mon Jan 11 12:47:06 2010. Yes, there is now a swich, where a train can go from the currect Queens bound track and access the outside queens bound track at Essex. It's not on the map at nycsubway.org, as that map predates that switch. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Mon Jan 11 21:46:03 2010, in response to Re: Rush Hour Nassau Street train, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 11 19:03:02 2010. Thanks for the update.Mike |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Jan 11 22:06:27 2010, in response to Re: Combing Stations to create a J/M-G Transfer, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 11 19:01:10 2010. And wouldn't the combined station have as many riders on it as say Marcy? I agree, they could've abandoned the two platforms in favor of one in between them. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 11 23:23:36 2010, in response to Re: QUESTION: Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by GIS Man on Mon Jan 11 09:49:21 2010. No, ma is what. Why is Lama, or Madua. |
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Re: QUESTION: Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 11 23:24:12 2010, in response to Re: QUESTION: Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 11 23:23:36 2010. And where is your enemy: A FOE! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jan 11 23:39:41 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 11 06:29:18 2010. Yup.Brian is the Ass in this thread/entire board,Continuously[when is Weinberg NOT an ass?]And Weinberg does not have a bunch of good things going for him in his life.From the way he posts,hes a sad man bitch. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 11 23:41:57 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jan 11 23:39:41 2010. Nope. Bill is not an asshole in this thread. Only Edwards is (and when is Edwards NOT an asshole?). And Edwards does not have a bunch of good things going for him in his life. From the way he posts, he's a sad old man. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jan 12 02:29:20 2010, in response to Re: Rush Hour Nassau Street train, posted by Michael549 on Mon Jan 11 12:42:35 2010. The track map on NYCSubway for the Nassau Street Line is very, very wrong between Chambers Street and Essex Street. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jan 12 06:32:03 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by straphanger9 on Mon Jan 11 13:19:57 2010. ok. agreed. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Jan 12 06:44:01 2010, in response to Re: Combing Stations to create a J/M-G Transfer, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 11 13:48:24 2010. If that can work, sure, I would be all for it.Regardless, that transfer is likely needed. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 12 07:45:18 2010, in response to Re: Rush Hour Nassau Street train, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jan 12 02:29:20 2010. We had a thread about this last week. Also what is wrong with that map, is that the former Queens "local" track no longer connects to Chamgers St to Canal. That is incorrect, that track is still connected to Chambers St. And of course, the extra switch, just dicussed, before Essex St allows trains from the current Queens track to access the far track at Essex St (near the trolley terminal), also not on the map |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 12 14:03:54 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by vfrt on Wed Jan 6 10:07:53 2010. The Chrystie connection will probably never see revenue service for a very long time if ever. It was an expensive mistake of transit planning. http://www.amny.com/urbanite-1.812039/mta-retooling-subway-and-bus-service-cuts-1.1696319 MTA officials are furiously retooling dozens of service cuts slated to hit straphangers in July. Among the ideas is the possible elimination of the M train, with the V replacing the line where it runs through north Brooklyn to Middle Village, transit sources said. |
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Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train. |
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Posted by Eric B on Tue Jan 12 14:14:23 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 12 14:03:54 2010. Yes, this has actually made the news!And not only that, but NY1 is reporting that the change is being seriously considered! mta-to-spare-three-bus-routes |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jan 12 20:24:28 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 12 14:03:54 2010. Yep. I love when these people try to deny something posted by a knowledgeable source. They just don't get it. |
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Re: ZMan, that is great news, this thread never got reefed. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 1 19:01:25 2010, in response to ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Chipper10 on Wed Jan 6 09:16:26 2010. Awesome news, in fact. |
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Re: ZMan, that is great news, this thread never got reefed. |
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Posted by Union Turnpike on Mon Mar 1 19:24:01 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, this thread never got reefed., posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 1 19:01:25 2010. I agree. |
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Re: ZMan, that is great news, this thread never got reefed. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Mar 1 19:50:20 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, this thread never got reefed., posted by Union Turnpike on Mon Mar 1 19:24:01 2010. Word.. |
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Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Mar 25 10:37:57 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 6 23:21:58 2010. It certainly will! |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Mar 25 10:53:02 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Mar 25 10:37:57 2010. Why are we reviving old threads? Do we not have enough on this topic already? |
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Posted by arnine on Thu Mar 25 11:59:23 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Mar 25 10:53:02 2010. Thank you! |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Mar 25 12:26:54 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Mar 25 10:53:02 2010. IAWTP. IMO, threads that have no activity for a certain time (3 months? 6 months?) should be locked. But I suspect the programming for that would be too much trouble (or impossible to do, unless manually). |
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Re: ZMan, that is great news, this thread never got reefed. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Mar 25 21:01:51 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, this thread never got reefed., posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 1 19:01:25 2010. But this thread will live forever in the annals of SubChat history. Reefing it would be a shame; it should be on permanent display. In fact, maybe someone should print it and donate a copy to the Transit Museum. |
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Re: ZMan, that is great news, this thread never got reefed. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Mar 31 05:51:00 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, this thread never got reefed., posted by Railman718 on Mon Mar 1 19:50:20 2010. Yep. |
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Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train. |
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Posted by Union Turnpike on Wed Mar 31 10:02:03 2010, in response to ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Chipper10 on Wed Jan 6 09:16:26 2010. Actually, the (M) train is now replacing the (V) train and taking its' color as well. |
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Re: ZMan, that is great news, this thread never got reefed. |
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Posted by Union Turnpike on Wed Mar 31 10:03:14 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, this thread never got reefed., posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Mar 31 05:51:00 2010. Really? |
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Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the V train with the M train. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 31 16:21:10 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Union Turnpike on Wed Mar 31 10:02:03 2010. This is the best necropost I've heard of in a long time. |
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Re: ZMan, that is great news, this thread never got reefed. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Apr 1 02:33:01 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, this thread never got reefed., posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Mar 25 21:01:51 2010. Yes. This thread, and the iconic subject line, should be instituted into the SubChat Hall of Fame. |
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G1Ravage, that is great news, this thread being instituted into the SubChat Hall of Fame |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 1 02:39:28 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, this thread never got reefed., posted by G1Ravage on Thu Apr 1 02:33:01 2010. That is the best news I heard of in a long time. |
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Re: G1Ravage, that is great news, this thread being instituted into the SubChat Hall of Fame |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Apr 1 03:28:00 2010, in response to G1Ravage, that is great news, this thread being instituted into the SubChat Hall of Fame, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 1 02:39:28 2010. Actually, as it turns out, the Hall of Fame is being replaced with the Fame of Hall. |
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