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Re: Nassau Street loop line

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jan 9 09:41:46 2010, in response to Re: Nassau Street loop line, posted by Michael549 on Sat Jan 9 02:24:01 2010.

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Maybe they meant to say, in the words of Yogi Berra, "Those trains are too crowded. No one rides them anymore.":)

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Re: Replacing the M with V train

Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jan 9 09:45:50 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Jan 9 02:35:58 2010.

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I'm getting well acquainted with ATS...it's quite amazing. Can't wait to see more of it in action.

It is got a lot of " teaching" at the terminals about that whne i was in the A Div, ATS isnt just used for tracking train movements...

Then again when it goes to the crapper....


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Re: QUESTION: Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by ntrainride on Sat Jan 9 09:51:51 2010, in response to Re: QUESTION: Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 9 04:46:01 2010.

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live and learn

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Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by ntrainride on Sat Jan 9 10:36:02 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 7 08:15:30 2010.

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"...all the way down to..." Canal, Chambers or Fulton is not all that long of a journey. The Nassau Street connections are a much more convenient way to get uptown on the Lexington, Seventh Avenue, Eight Avenue and Broadway lines from Broadway Brooklyn than the transfer options available by exiting at Delancey are.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jan 9 11:37:35 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Jan 8 20:59:18 2010.

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Finally, something sensible. Also, if the money genuinely does not exist and cannot be found to maintain service as it is now, ANYTHING is possible. This business of "it can never happen" or "zero chance" or "the contract forbids it" is not consistent with reality.

I never use the M and have no personal interest in where it goes or whether it is combined or eliminated or what. But as long as the trackage and necessary switches exist, an M/V combo is certainly a possibility, and I just don't understand why some people get so bent out of shape about it.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Jan 9 12:43:43 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jan 9 11:37:35 2010.

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I agree, I don't really care if they do merge the lines as I don't ride that segment. But I do like the idea of any potential cost savings.
And IF* the M really has no ridership* south of Broad St, then that segment should just be cut. Why run trains there if they aren't used?

*again only if that is true

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Re: Nassau Street loop line

Posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 13:16:52 2010, in response to Re: Nassau Street loop line, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Fri Jan 8 16:19:41 2010.

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That's what I was originally thought of. Then, I figured that should really be a one way service (like the QB), since one of the problems I'm trying to eliminate is having to depend on service originating from Bay Pkwy to head towards Met, with all the delays out there. Though if Met service is going to Broad and back as well, you would end up with too many trains in the reverse peak direction. Then when I realized the Z was only 6 trips, I figured it might be best to use that instead, since it has no use in the reverse peak direction foor this end. I got the timetables for both the M and Z, and planned to look to switch the six Z tripss for M's, but hadn't gotten around to it.

Then, with talk of cutting the M south of Broas altogether, I then planned to suggest a separate one way special from Bay to Chambers for whenever the money gets better enough to undo the cuts.

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Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 13:25:32 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by randyo on Fri Jan 8 17:20:03 2010.

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After Chrystie St, they no longer followed that strict pattern. Though it would still be hard to see them divert an established route designation like that so far from its express parent (and then, they would cross each other again at Bway Jct!) Especially, when there was already another letter covering the new routing.
(Though, I wonder what would have happened if the Second System had been built, in which the AA would have been extended to the same area anyway, down Bway and Myrtle).

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 13:28:23 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 8 18:28:48 2010.

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Once again, they need to put 72/2 middle back in the plan, as that would provide another terminal, especially if the V goes to Church Av, as it eventually should.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Jan 9 14:20:34 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 13:28:23 2010.

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I still don't like the idea of the 6th Av and Broadway trains crossing each other. 72/2nd should be for the Broadway line.

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Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 9 14:40:36 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jan 6 20:34:04 2010.

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He doesn't know my score. He thinks he does.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 9 14:42:47 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Jan 8 20:54:45 2010.

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Not even in 1979 did lower Manhattan get such crappy service, but there WAS a lot more office space that needed filling back then. From two buildings no longer there, IIRC.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Jan 9 14:44:54 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 9 14:42:47 2010.

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Two giant buildings and 3 shorter ones to be exact. But yeah lower Manhattan has lost a lot of office space in the area and it remains to be seen if the new towers will be filled.

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Re: Replacing the M with V train

Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sat Jan 9 15:23:00 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by znufrii on Fri Jan 8 13:22:57 2010.

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You'd have to swap the E and F as well in order to not end up with frequent and significant delays.

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Re: Nassau Street loop line

Posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 15:28:13 2010, in response to Re: Nassau Street loop line, posted by Michael549 on Sat Jan 9 02:24:01 2010.

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I think the whole point is that the combined route would draw more riders. The two routes by themselves might have light ridership, but on the M, ad GP38 always reminds us, a lot of the people are changing for the L at Wyckoff. These people would be encouraged to stay on, now (especially people like my wife who hatr transferring and stairs and everything, to the point that when we lived near Seneca, we were deterred from going to midtown).

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Re: Nassau Street loop line

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 9 15:31:01 2010, in response to Re: Nassau Street loop line, posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 15:28:13 2010.

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I lived near Forest Ave, (well between the Seneca and Forest stations, but closer to Forest), and I used to often walk to Myrtle and Wyckoff for the L when going to Midtown, just to avoid the M train, and the stairs at Wyckoff.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 15:36:54 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Jan 8 18:46:09 2010.

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It would have to not be the same trains covering both directions. They would all just lay up in CIY until the PM rush, while the ones from BPY would just make the trip and lay up in ENY.

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Re: Replacing the M with V train

Posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 15:49:46 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by randyo on Fri Jan 8 13:22:21 2010.

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They probably would end up as X jobs, doing one trip and then working in the yard.
(But no, they would't have both services now, but this idea could be for when money is better and they restore cut service.

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Re: Nassau Street loop line

Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Sat Jan 9 16:06:31 2010, in response to Re: Nassau Street loop line, posted by Michael549 on Sat Jan 9 02:24:01 2010.

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The V is certainly a useful line, as has been borne-out by ridership numbers and experience along QB. There are still people who bitch about losing the G nine years later, but the numbers are wholly against their arguments at this point in time.

The current M service underserves a clear majority of its riders...much the same as the G on QB did. While it does go to Manhattan and provides connections to other lines that go where most of its riders go, more people transfer to lines (L, F) that are more direct to their destinations. Why should "most" of the riders have to take 2 or 3 trains to get where they're going when there is an option that would serve their needs better? Furthermore, why should riders on the more-heavily-used segment of the L west of Myrtle be subjected to even more crowded trains because of the M riders who board before them?

As for those in the minority who "lose" their one seat ride to the Civic Center and Financial District, sorry but that is just how life works. It's not like they would be left stranded with no alternative: For M riders from the east wanting Nassau Street it's a completely painless, same-platform transfer...no schlepping involved. I don't have personal, current-day observations regarding southern riders to Nassau St, but when I did it, the M was rarely half full leaving Court, usually not even 1/3 on any given train. The mass exodus was at Pacific and DeKalb, and very few people waiting on the platform boarded. Having to transfer at Pacific or DeKalb would not be the end of the world for anyone.

If the affected riders are that incensed over such a service change, then it is their personal responsibility to speak up and hold their elected officials accountable for the situation. None of what has transpired over the years and years it took for things to reach the point where budget woes and mismanagement lead to service cuts happened in the dark where the public had no inkling as to what was going on. There is a price to pay for the kind of willful ignorance people have when it comes to what goes on around them...they should be thankful they are only facing the prospect of having to walk a short distance to take another train.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 9 16:10:33 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 15:36:54 2010.

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In that case, if you want to restore the service into south Brooklyn, extend the J. I pity the poor crews on such a long-ass run, but it makes more sense.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sat Jan 9 16:15:30 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jan 7 23:08:13 2010.

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I don't think the MTA has ever given any real consideration to the idea until now. it seems like the only places that gave serious consideration to merging the M and V over the years have been message boards.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Jan 9 16:18:41 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sat Jan 9 16:15:30 2010.

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Then again maybe if we bombarded them with complaints the way Astoria riders did over the W running express in Queens in 2001, maybe they could've concidered this sooner.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by G1Ravage on Sat Jan 9 17:08:49 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sat Jan 9 16:15:30 2010.

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No, they're always considering the pros and cons of certain changes. The (V) was always considered a "we can do just about anything with this line", hence why the R-160s were programmed with the (V) having so many destinations and routings.

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Re: Nassau Street loop line

Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jan 9 18:02:53 2010, in response to Re: Nassau Street loop line, posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 13:16:52 2010.

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I had suggested the same peak-hour only train, but from Bay Parkway-Essex Street so it would include the area next to the District Attorney's Office at Canal Street.

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Re: Replacing the M with V train

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 9 18:03:28 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 19:12:47 2010.

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Yes, Edwards does have English comprehension problems.

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Re: Replacing the M with V train

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 9 18:04:11 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 8 18:56:24 2010.

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STFU. Bill from Maspeth is 99999999999x more a man than you'll ever be.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 9 18:09:47 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Jan 8 19:25:33 2010.

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It might just be that he doesn't understand the concept of nudge-nudge-wink-wink posts.

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Re: Replacing the M with V train

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 9 19:47:10 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 9 18:04:11 2010.

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Why don't you be the man you want to be..and make me..if you can.
Furthermore..don't be a little bitch..and hide behind a pc..when you wanna talk shit.

Come and see me, little man..

Also..BILL can speak for himself..he doesn't need a bitch speaking for him.

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Re: Replacing the M with V train

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 9 19:47:58 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 9 18:03:28 2010.

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Do You comprehend what "eat a dick "means?

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 9 20:06:28 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 13:53:19 2010.

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Don't leave! You're worth 25 million Edwardses!!!!

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 9 20:07:18 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 9 02:29:05 2010.

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No, you need to grow up and stop making unwarranted personal attacks. You started this. The blame lies squarely on you.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 9 20:21:37 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 9 20:07:18 2010.

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Don't talk..come and SEE ME.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jan 9 20:29:43 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 13:53:19 2010.

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Stop trying to put people's ideas down because of financial issues despite the fact that most of the time they're just ideas. Other than that though you're good.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jan 9 20:30:27 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 8 14:23:35 2010.

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Agreed, just like we disagree on the amount of Guidos in Brookhaven.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 20:41:33 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 9 16:10:33 2010.

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No, that would then mess up J service on this end. The best thing would just be to have a separate special.


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Re: Nassau Street loop line

Posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 20:43:13 2010, in response to Re: Nassau Street loop line, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 9 15:31:01 2010.

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I hated the walk, even from Seneca. It's even more tiring when coming home, and you're going up hill. I was so happy to move closer to the Myyrtle-Wyckoff complex, where that's the closest station.

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Re: Replacing the M with V train

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 9 20:45:56 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 9 19:47:58 2010.

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of course he does - intimately too!

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 20:48:46 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Jan 9 14:20:34 2010.

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They had actually eyed it for future Mahnattan Bridge closures as well. The would go there. Now, it would have to go all the way up to 96th or 125th. But once the T is running, that will be a problem, especially, if I have seen in another thread, the third track was dropped from there as well.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 9 21:01:15 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 9 20:21:37 2010.

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specific time and place?

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Jan 9 21:07:08 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 20:48:46 2010.

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Yeah it is a shame that 3rd track was dropped. What they could do is install the 'outer tracks' on the ramps on the outer segments of 57/7th. The ones that branches off from the local tracks. That way the center tracks can be kept to turn back trains.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 21:27:20 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Jan 9 21:07:08 2010.

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Suggested that too, and they said they were looking into it. It would also allow locals to access the 63rd St line or Second Ave.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Jan 9 21:55:52 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 21:27:20 2010.

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Yup. I would prefer they run the Q to Astoria and the N to 2nd Av. And if the W is still around, that could run with the N to 2nd Av as well.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 10 01:56:43 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 8 18:42:06 2010.

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Exactly:

The key to all this is that the new V train will do its primary job, and that is keep the current M riders ON the M/V combo line and OFF the L train, which has its own overcrowding issues heading towards Manhattan.

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 10 02:01:39 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 20:41:33 2010.

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Right:

A separate train (M or perhaps "Brown D?") could operate from Essex to Bay Parkway or Coney Island in the peak direction during rush hours.

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Re: Broadway Line north of 57th Street

Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 10 02:05:26 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Eric B on Sat Jan 9 21:27:20 2010.

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Which would be very good, especially if locals can more easily access either the 2nd Avenue or Astroia/Queens Blvd.-bound tracks from 57th, as that can give them much greater flexibility than at present.

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Re: Replacing the M with V train

Posted by jimmymc25 on Sun Jan 10 02:50:55 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 9 02:25:22 2010.

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CALM DOWN ALREADY DUDE!!!

YOU TOO ARE ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE IN THIS THREAD!!!

Edwards, sounds like you've got a bunch of good things going for you in yor life as does Bil with just a few more years til he gets out with a wonderful retirement plan & whatever else.


So you're lives are so wonderful that you have to come here & play "I'll kick your ass in person"

BOTH YOU & BILL ARE MAJOR ASSHOLES IN THIS THREAD!!!!!

FUCKIN MAJOR ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Jimmymc25

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Re: Replacing the M with V train

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 10 09:56:48 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by jimmymc25 on Sun Jan 10 02:50:55 2010.

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No, Bill is not an asshole in this thread. Only Edwards is (and when is Edwards NOT an asshole?). And Edwards does not have a bunch of good things going for him in his life. From the way he posts, he's a sad old man.

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Re: Replacing the M with V train

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Jan 10 11:20:30 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 10 09:56:48 2010.

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No, Bill nor Edwards are not assholes in this thread. Only Terrapin Station is (and when is Terrapin Station aka Turtle Boy NOT an asshole?). And Terrapin Station does not have a bunch of good things going for him in his life. Failed to get into the MTA, driven by a psychotic level of wanton jealousy, failed to become even a marginal photographer, and from the way he posts, he's a sad, frustrated (in MANY ways!!) young, pathetic boy!!

Do forgive him!!

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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by Michael549 on Sun Jan 10 12:02:40 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 10 02:01:39 2010.

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If the proposed M/V combination is in operation, there would be a lot of activity at the Essex Street station, merging and separating M/V trains to and from J/Z trains, that to add a rush hour only M-train from southern Brooklyn (Bay Parkway) terminating there. The station has only 3-tracks, and the middle track is used by current J/Z and M-trains headed across the bridge into Brooklyn and Queens.

I would suggest that a rush hour only peak direction only to/from southern Brooklyn Bay Parkway M-train, terminate at either Eastern Parkway or Metropolitan Avenue. Kind of like the old rush hours only QB-train. For example, these M-trains could leave Bay Parkway in the am-rush hours headed toward Eastern Parkway, and then layup in the yard. During the evening rush hours, these same trains head toward Bay Parkway, and layup in the Coney Island yard. Neat simple.

Just my idea.
Mike


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Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Jan 10 14:24:29 2010, in response to ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Chipper10 on Wed Jan 6 09:16:26 2010.

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Wow, what a thread this became.

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