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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 30 17:53:18 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 17:47:58 2009. No, I did not know that. I don't keep track of people's employment here.So I guess he can prove it...in which case I'd like to see the case for the new terminal being operationally deficient. It'd be nice to see a professional opinion, instead of a foamer's. |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Mon Nov 30 18:03:58 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 30 09:39:35 2009. Wonder how I will handle making all local stops to New Lots if I happen to get a job on the 1 line during this time. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 18:04:16 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 30 17:53:18 2009. No, I did not know that. I don't keep track of people's employment here.Kinda surprising since its not a secret and hes been here for years.. So I guess he can prove it...in which case I'd like to see the case for the new terminal being operationally deficient. His call... It'd be nice to see a professional opinion, instead of a foamer's. That still dont matter to some... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 18:06:10 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Mon Nov 30 18:03:58 2009. Wonder how I will handle making all local stops to New Lots if I happen to get a job on the 1 line during this time.You will do your job as a professional as i did and hundred others when we did it... Just be glad as a C/R when you work that deuce that you have a nice full width air conditioned cab... |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Mon Nov 30 18:07:35 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 18:06:10 2009. I know right these Rookies don't know how good they have it. The only C/R's working hard now are in B Div on the A/C Lines |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Mon Nov 30 18:10:53 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Michael549 on Mon Nov 30 14:10:30 2009. that hasn't been determined yet, or maybe it has and I haven't heard anything about the time periods. |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Mon Nov 30 18:12:48 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 15:32:57 2009. Hell, I'd rather remain extraalthough the 1 line will be the money line next summer and people are talking about flocking to the 1 for that pick. It may not be able to pick me anyway. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Mon Nov 30 18:14:09 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 30 08:55:03 2009. w0rd. |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Mon Nov 30 18:14:40 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 30 15:01:30 2009. I agree |
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Posted by South Ferry on Mon Nov 30 18:16:14 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by randyo on Mon Nov 30 15:30:40 2009. Lenox dewatering!??!?! |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Mon Nov 30 18:18:05 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by randyo on Mon Nov 30 15:30:40 2009. I agree about the 1 on the midnights. But it would be turned on track 2 at Chambers, then go north switching to track 3, then track 4. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 18:18:29 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Mon Nov 30 18:12:48 2009. although the 1 line will be the money line next summer and people are talking about flocking to the 1 for that pick. It may not be able to pick me anyway.Dont believe the hype my freind..... I can see 8 hr jobs all over that line they did it when the went to ZooLots before .. 2 trips 8 hrs.... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 18:20:43 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by South Ferry on Mon Nov 30 18:16:14 2009. Lenox dewatering!??!?!They call it down here the Lenox Invert... Had to drain a lot of water i think theres an underground stream or something... |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Mon Nov 30 18:23:01 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 18:20:43 2009. The last one was in 1998. They called it Lenox Rehab '98. I wonder when the next one will be. Maybe in 5 or 10 years?we shall see |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 18:35:12 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Mon Nov 30 18:12:48 2009. Hell, I'd rather remain extraOnly if you had a Choice my friend.... |
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Posted by Michael549 on Mon Nov 30 18:36:42 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 30 09:41:42 2009. The South Ferry loop stations will not be opened under any of the scenarios, for a some simple reasons.Consider that after 9/11, and the #1 was traveling to/from New Lots Avenue - Brooklyn on a regular basis for several months, the TA did not open the inner loop station. Both the inner and outer loop stations were closed. The only subway stations nearest to the ferry terminal were the N-R-W at Whitehall Street, and the #4 and #5 at Bowling Green. Plenty of us using the westside #1 and #2 lines simply left at the Wall Street stationI for a zig-zag walk to the ferry terminal. It was shear madness to even think about using the Fulton Street complex to transfer between the #1 and #2 then to or from #4 and #5 lines. There are other reasons. Mike |
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Posted by Michael549 on Mon Nov 30 18:38:19 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 30 09:41:42 2009. The South Ferry loop stations will not be opened under any of the scenarios, for a some simple reasons.Consider that after 9/11, and the #1 was traveling to/from New Lots Avenue - Brooklyn on a regular basis for several months, the TA did not open the inner loop station. Both the inner and outer loop stations were closed. The only subway stations nearest to the ferry terminal were the N-R-W at Whitehall Street, and the #4 and #5 at Bowling Green. Plenty of us using the westside #1 and #2 lines simply left at the Wall Street stationI for a zig-zag walk to the ferry terminal. It was shear madness to even think about using the Fulton Street complex to transfer between the #1 and #2 then to or from #4 and #5 lines. There are other reasons. Mike |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 30 18:47:45 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Alex L. on Mon Nov 30 17:21:37 2009. What rules have they been allowed to break. GT signal entering the station prevent crews from exceeding the speed limit and what rules are there regarding leaving other than the speed restriction from tk 1 to 4 over the switch? |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 30 18:51:53 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 30 17:45:25 2009. Correct. The reason the routes were changed was to eliminate the crossing at 96 St. Of course later on when Chrystie opened the initial service pattern had the Ds crossing from the exp to the local and the QJs crossing from the lcl to the exp N/O Brighton Bch. It was changed on the next pick the same time the NX was eliminated. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 30 18:54:36 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 18:20:43 2009. In the schedule office we used the term "dewatering." |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 30 18:55:31 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Mon Nov 30 18:18:05 2009. I doubt it would be turned on tk 2 since if the turn train went bad on the stand it would block the S/B 2s. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 19:19:43 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by randyo on Mon Nov 30 18:55:31 2009. I doubt it would be turned on tk 2 since if the turn train went bad on the stand it would block the S/B 2s.It was done... I should know i did it... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 30 19:31:19 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 30 17:53:18 2009. lol, you clearly just demonstrated that you don't know who the professionals are, so why don't you do less talking and more listening and less labeling? Alex has been posting about the SF issue for years. And all this time you were dismissing him as a foamer. Unbelievable. The arguements for why new SF may have issues have already been well stated many many many times (and dismissed out of hand by the uninformed many many many times). |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Mon Nov 30 19:31:31 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 30 08:55:03 2009. Its has everything to do with Cortlandt Street reopening, me has shorter walk to (1) train, understand now?But yet again on serious note (even though what I said above could not have been any less serious), point I was trying to get across when I said, "I know I'll be glad to have my (1) train connection at Cortlandt Street again," is that it will definitely be a benefit for those who rely on the (1) train, for example people coming from the PATH, could just go back to taking the (1) from Cortlandt Street instead of going to Chambers Street. Of course you couldn't go without saying something assholish. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 30 19:36:49 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 30 13:49:43 2009. No, the real question is "have there been any real improvements in any aspect of 1 line service or SF customer experience, and if so, could they not have been solved by a solution that either involved retaining the loop terminal or building a new terminal with a design that doesn't potentially cripple future service increases". |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 30 19:37:43 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by randyo on Mon Nov 30 18:55:31 2009. Heh. This is the Empty-yay we're talking about. :) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 19:39:36 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 30 19:37:43 2009. Kevin got a minute? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 30 19:54:23 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 19:39:36 2009. For you? You betcha! (and ... I'm on the machine that does email!) |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Nov 30 20:12:15 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Nov 30 15:16:33 2009. "putting R-142s on the (1) and R-62A's on the (5), so that the (1)"Rumor or not, that would be very interesting. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 20:30:02 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 30 19:54:23 2009. Sent back hold yer breath BTW.... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 30 20:53:19 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 20:30:02 2009. Just grabbed it - will write back once I eat and go back down to the office. Never a dull moment, I'll leave it there for now. |
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Posted by WillD on Mon Nov 30 21:02:39 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 30 09:54:37 2009. Half a billion dollars on SF, 1.5 billion on the great glass egg. Hmm, two billion dollars they *had* spend on Lower Manhattan. And it'd be two miles from Hannover Square to Grand Street at around 750 million dollars per mile to build the SAS Phase IV under Water Street. For the amount we're spending on two old stations we could have extended the V train from 2nd Ave to Hannover Square and served three new stations. Hell, go with tail tracks arranged as four 600 foot tracks rather than two 1200 foot tracks then we could move the station 500-600 feet south to provide a connection to the eastern end of the Whitehall street mezzanine. Use the leftover money to pay off the folks around Sara Roosevelt Park off, build the shallow Chrystie alternative and enable later service off the Manhattan Bridge to the SAS, or from Hannover Square to points on the 6th and 8th Avenue lines. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Nov 30 21:15:18 2009, in response to 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Mon Nov 30 07:52:47 2009. Sorry rook, you take whatever's left over. If you are the last guy to pick a job and there is an RDO relief on the 1, your name is on it.Your first pick is the time you REALLY pay your dues! |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Nov 30 21:17:19 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Alex L. on Mon Nov 30 17:21:37 2009. Proving once again that we are our own worst enemy. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 30 21:34:39 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 18:04:16 2009. Hard to know who to believe around here. The only people who I believe have vetted themselves is Train Dude, and Mr. Mabstoa...I'm leaving a few out. There are several others here whose opinions I place higher value on than most for various reasons; people whose opinions I ignore for other reasons; and people whose opinion is only worthwhile on certain subjects. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 21:46:28 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 30 21:34:39 2009. The only people who I believe have vetted themselves is Train Dude, and Mr. Mabstoa...I'm leaving a few out.Mr Mabsota works in Surface.. Train Dude is RTO.. You have quite a few RTO personel who post here, as i said not to hard to figure it out. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 30 21:46:51 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Nov 30 21:15:18 2009. Boy howdy on that! :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 30 21:48:05 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 21:46:28 2009. CED is part of RTO now? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 30 21:50:59 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 30 21:34:39 2009. Hard to know who to believe around here.That explains a lot about you... |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 30 21:52:05 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 30 17:45:25 2009. I know. that's why I said it was done for good reason. It was better for the trains, but still meant more changes for the passenger. You can't have everything. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 30 21:56:21 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Pablo M 201 on Mon Nov 30 19:31:31 2009. Its has everything to do with Cortlandt Street reopening, me has shorter walk to (1) train, understand now?But yet again on serious note (even though what I said above could not have been any less serious), point I was trying to get across when I said, "I know I'll be glad to have my (1) train connection at Cortlandt Street again," is that it will definitely be a benefit for those who rely on the (1) train, for example people coming from the PATH, could just go back to taking the (1) from Cortlandt Street instead of going to Chambers Street. Wrong. Nowhere was it stated that this closure would result in the reopening of Cortlandt Street. Hence my totally valid question to you. Of course you couldn't go without saying something assholish. Nope. But maybe you are talking about yourself?? |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Nov 30 22:00:39 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Mon Nov 30 16:05:04 2009. It would be cool to see something different on the 2, but I feel if there's any R62s going anywhere, they would probably go to the 4. So the 4 can then let the 2/5 run R142/As. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 22:01:49 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 30 21:48:05 2009. LOL sorry i meant Car Equipment... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 30 22:05:51 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 30 22:01:49 2009. Just checking ... don't make me break out the dixie cups. :) |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Nov 30 22:07:51 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Nov 30 09:01:14 2009. And to add to that, people have to walk outside a few feet to get to the ferry terminal than to be right inside the building if coming from the loop.Why couldn't they just have some sort of enclosure from the southern most exit to the ferry building? |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Nov 30 22:10:45 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 30 10:58:12 2009. "That would have made a great picture."Agreed. |
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Posted by Union Turnpike on Mon Nov 30 22:15:43 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by randyo on Mon Nov 30 15:30:40 2009. What will replace the (1) between Chambers Street and South Ferry?The (R) (W) might become popular with Ferry riders temporarily? |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Nov 30 22:26:33 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Union Turnpike on Mon Nov 30 22:15:43 2009. shuttle buses.Probably. |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Tue Dec 1 00:01:41 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 30 21:56:21 2009. Nope. But maybe you are talking about yourself??And there you go trying to twist things around, yeah, no. I know what I said, and I know I was talking about you. So before I sink completely into this little silly game of your's, I'm gonna drop it here. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Dec 1 00:30:49 2009, in response to Re: 1 train to New Lots next summer, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 30 21:50:59 2009. Says the person in category three. |
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