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Posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Oct 12 13:12:32 2004 Ok I've been given word that apparently some of you guys thought the current "Grand Concourse" here was the same "Grand Concourse" over at Riders Diaries or the original Subtalk, then you are mistaken.So from now on I will be known as 'M15 to South Ferry' here, but still the same "Grand Concourse" over at Riders Diaries. Thanks for taking the time to read this [namely those that knows me] |
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Re: on/topic: Misconceptions |
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Posted by American Pig on Tue Oct 12 13:23:26 2004, in response to o/t: Misconceptions, posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Oct 12 13:12:32 2004. OK, that's good, we appreciate the update.Now, here are some of the ON TOPIC misconceptions:
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Oct 12 13:29:34 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by American Pig on Tue Oct 12 13:23:26 2004. I didn't know that "And" and "Last but the opposite of least:" were misconceptions. :) |
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Posted by American Pig on Tue Oct 12 13:31:49 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Oct 12 13:29:34 2004. No offense, but what you don't know can fill a thimble. |
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Posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Oct 12 13:39:33 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by American Pig on Tue Oct 12 13:23:26 2004. Lol Well from one of the signs on the Arnines proves there was/could've been a 76th Street station. I just love how it has become a search like if there was life on Mars or so :-) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 12 13:42:38 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Oct 12 13:39:33 2004. Well from one of the signs on the Arnines proves there was/could've been a 76th Street station.Are you talking about the front rollsign? |
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Posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Oct 12 13:47:41 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 12 13:42:38 2004. Yes |
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Posted by vengence on Tue Oct 12 14:08:06 2004, in response to o/t: Misconceptions, posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Oct 12 13:12:32 2004. HEY...Welcome...Get ready for a wild ride...8^)... |
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Posted by vengence on Tue Oct 12 14:20:06 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by American Pig on Tue Oct 12 13:23:26 2004. 1)false[no trackways]2)false[B.O didn't want to run the trains anymore without help from the city] 3)False..it had TWO connections planned-the current and the other in Forest Hills... 4)False...Route NAMES WERE USED 5)Who sez? 6)Hard to say... 7)Not really...If not for NIMBYS...my Grandfather would've lost his house to the Bushwick Expressway... 8)ALL LRT makes sense..[whats wrong with you?] 9)That sounds stupid...and a waste of money.. 10)what? 11)Yeah? 12)It does... |
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Re: on/topic: Misconceptions |
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Posted by MamboMTA on Tue Oct 12 14:36:04 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Oct 12 13:47:41 2004. Are you talking about the fake signs that some people put into the front rollsign box on a MOD trip earlier this year? Or are you talking about the Photoshopped pictures? |
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Posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Oct 12 14:59:19 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by MamboMTA on Tue Oct 12 14:36:04 2004. The signs, cuz when a TA worker lifted the cover the few of us standing at the front saw 76th labeled - it didn't seem fake since it was part of the rollsign and nope I saw it w/my own 2 eyes well b4 ppl started to photoshop that image.- the original Grand Concourse from RD and SubTalk |
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Posted by Broadway Junction on Tue Oct 12 15:51:30 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Oct 12 14:59:19 2004. That is a fake. It may look real, but it was spliced in for laughs. |
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Posted by Broadway Junction on Tue Oct 12 16:11:02 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by American Pig on Tue Oct 12 13:23:26 2004. The walls at Grand Street (B,D) conceal additional trackways for the SAS behind them.While it's highly unlikely, you can't prove that there aren't... The SIRT South Beach Branch was abandoned to build the Verrazano Bridge. OK, that's ridiculous. Who the heck cane up with that one? The 63rd Street tunnel was not originally intended to connect to the QB line Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was. BMT numbers were popularly used outside the Sea Beach and Brighton Line Define "popularly". If you mean by majority, then I don't have enough info to say. But BMT numbers were used quite often on lines besides the #1 and #4. I've seen quite a few photos of #2, #7, #10, #13, #14, and #15 trains. #3-only seen that on the R-11. #5-only seen that on a fantrip. #6-never seen that. #8-only seen that once. #9-never seen that. #11-don't even know what that is. #12-dunno what that is either. #13-only seen that twice, once of which was a fantrip. #16-only seen that once or twice. The R-68 is slow They probably aren't. It seems like they are, since they're mostly used on slow lines, and their 75' length makes them sound slower. R-68s can get up to decent speeds in the 6th Ave dash, passing 9th St n/b, and approaching Newkirk Av n/b. It would have been significantly cheaper to reuse the Rockaway ROW than build the Van Wyck El Of course not. But it would be cheaper to do that than to build a new tunnel under the East River. NIMBYs are always bad, no matter what the situation, no matter what the reason, no matter what is being opposed. I suppose some NIMBYs are good. A sewage treatment plant doesn't belong in a residential neighborhood. A 42nd Street light rail makes sense Probably wouldn't. The lower level of 42/8 was built solely for the purpose of blocking a westward extension of the 7. Why the hell else would they have built it? And Last but the opposite of least: 76th Street Station exists I'm beginning to believe that it probably doesn't. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 12 16:15:02 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Oct 12 14:59:19 2004. Yep, it was teh fak0rz. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 12 16:28:55 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by Broadway Junction on Tue Oct 12 16:11:02 2004. While it's highly unlikely, you can't prove that there aren't...There aren't. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Tue Oct 12 18:09:27 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by American Pig on Tue Oct 12 13:31:49 2004. That looks like a compliment to me. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 12 18:32:13 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by David of Broadway on Tue Oct 12 18:09:27 2004. Actually, I was thinking the same thing. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 12 18:37:37 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by Broadway Junction on Tue Oct 12 16:11:02 2004. NIMBYs are always bad, no matter what the situation, no matter what the reason, no matter what is being opposed.I suppose some NIMBYs are good. A sewage treatment plant doesn't belong in a residential neighborhood. Actually, the NIMBY's or YIMBY's saved the Franklin Shuttle, and converted it from the Franklin Shittle, They saved some LIRR stations like Glen Street and Bellport, They saved the Intervale Ave station, They even kept the M running in Southern Brooklyn, and the list goes on. Sometimes "NIMBY's" are YIMBY's, and they actually are good for transportation. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Tue Oct 12 19:10:52 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by Broadway Junction on Tue Oct 12 16:11:02 2004. #11-don't even know what that is.#12-dunno what that is either. Probably with good reason. IINM, one of them is the MJ, the other is the Lexington Av El. Can't remember which way roud though! |
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Posted by M15 to South Ferry on Tue Oct 12 19:40:01 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by American Pig on Tue Oct 12 13:23:26 2004. Lol this has to be the only place that can turn an o/t post into something on topic :-pOh well I made my point known anyway -the original Grand Concourse from SubTalk and RD. |
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Posted by American Pig on Wed Oct 13 07:21:09 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by David of Broadway on Tue Oct 12 18:09:27 2004. Well, I did say "no offense." :-) |
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Posted by American Pig on Wed Oct 13 07:27:35 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by vengence on Tue Oct 12 14:20:06 2004. 1)false[no trackways]2)false[B.O didn't want to run the trains anymore without help from the city] Well, everything in that post is false, since they're misconceptions that people have. 3)False..it had TWO connections planned-the current and the other in Forest Hills... Yes, then you are agreeing with me that the current connection was planned from the beginning. I never said that it was always the ONLY one planned. 4)False...Route NAMES WERE USED Um, are you sure you get my post? 7)Not really...If not for NIMBYS...my Grandfather would've lost his house to the Bushwick Expressway... Exactly what I'm saying. 8)ALL LRT makes sense..[whats wrong with you?] No, it doesn't. A 42nd Street LRT would be no faster than an M42 bus. If they want to have electric vehicles, they can use ETB, which is capable of changing lanes. |
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Posted by Fytton on Wed Oct 13 07:27:55 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by American Pig on Tue Oct 12 13:23:26 2004. Here's an extra one: The MTA makes a profit on its transit operations, has lots of money stashed away, and raises fares and cuts services out of pure incompetence or perversity. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 13 07:30:04 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by American Pig on Wed Oct 13 07:27:35 2004. 8)ALL LRT makes sense..[whats wrong with you?]No, it doesn't. A 42nd Street LRT would be no faster than an M42 bus. If they want to have electric vehicles, they can use ETB, which is capable of changing lanes. M O N O R A I L ! :) |
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Re: on/topic: Misconceptions |
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Posted by American Pig on Wed Oct 13 07:39:19 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by Broadway Junction on Tue Oct 12 16:11:02 2004. While it's highly unlikely, you can't prove that there aren't...Yes I can, and there aren't. If there were, you would see reference to them in the SAS EIS. Define "popularly". If you mean by majority, then I don't have enough info to say. But BMT numbers were used quite often on lines besides the #1 and #4. I've seen quite a few photos of #2, #7, #10, #13, #14, and #15 trains. By popularly, I mean that people referred to the train by that number in common usage and everyone understood what it meant. If you've seen photos of trains signed up that way, that doesn't mean that they were regularly signed up that way and people came to know the trains by their number. They probably aren't. It seems like they are, since they're mostly used on slow lines, and their 75' length makes them sound slower. R-68s can get up to decent speeds in the 6th Ave dash, passing 9th St n/b, and approaching Newkirk Av n/b. What makes them sound slower is that they're better-insulated and provide for a smoother ride. A smoother, quieter ride just FEELS slower. Why the hell else would they have built it? Beats me, but for various reasons it is illogical to assume that the IND would have built a station to block the 7, since the IND cut through an abandoned, never used tunnel of the IRT in Brooklyn (the approach to lower level Nevins). |
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Re: on/topic: Misconceptions |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Oct 13 08:45:05 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by American Pig on Wed Oct 13 07:21:09 2004. You also said "but." |
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Posted by American Pig on Wed Oct 13 17:20:53 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by David of Broadway on Wed Oct 13 08:45:05 2004. Sorry, I meant "ass." |
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Posted by American Pig on Wed Oct 13 17:22:00 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by Fytton on Wed Oct 13 07:27:55 2004. Yeah, that should be on there. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Oct 13 22:47:00 2004, in response to Re: on/topic: Misconceptions, posted by American Pig on Wed Oct 13 17:20:53 2004. That's the strangest typo I've ever seen. |
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