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Re: Aqueduct Specials

Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Oct 2 15:40:41 2009, in response to Re: Aqueduct Specials, posted by Union Turnpike on Fri Oct 2 14:23:10 2009.

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And they used a large token.

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Re: Aqueduct Specials.

Posted by randyo on Fri Oct 2 15:49:48 2009, in response to Re: Aqueduct Specials., posted by tunnelrat on Fri Oct 2 10:59:08 2009.

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The model board in the IND Roosevelt Av tower has spare levers for the connection to the upper level and if you look carefully, the associated signals and switches can be seen under the black paint that covers them. painted over. The diamond crossover N/O Rockaway Av that was used to turn A trains until 1945 and was controlled from Utica Tower along with its associated signals can also be seen under the paint along with the spare levers on the machine itself.

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Re: [Photos] Re: Aqueduct Specials

Posted by randyo on Fri Oct 2 16:05:50 2009, in response to [Photos] Re: Aqueduct Specials, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Oct 1 13:49:43 2009.

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The daily Aqueduct specials were actually supplied from the F service and any available post rush hour put ins from Jamaica Yd from either service. There were 2 F trains that terminated at 2 Av and ran light to Qns Plz where that were turned and ran light back to 42/8 LL where they became the first 2 and last 2 Aqueduct specials. When the first 2 specials arrived at Aqueduct and discharged passengers, they relayed to F4 tk S/O the station and ran light back to Qns Plz were the y turned for a second time and became the last 2 Aqueduct specials. On Saturdays, the specials were straight put ins from J Yd but as was the case daily, the first 2 specials returned to Qns Plz for a second trip.

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Re: Aqueduct Specials

Posted by f179dj on Fri Oct 2 16:46:33 2009, in response to Re: Aqueduct Specials, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Oct 2 15:40:41 2009.

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Which I still have in my token collection.

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Re: Aqueduct Specials

Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Oct 2 17:00:14 2009, in response to Re: Aqueduct Specials, posted by f179dj on Fri Oct 2 16:46:33 2009.

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Any good rail fan has a collection of tokens in their collection.

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Re: Aqueduct Racetrack

Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Oct 2 17:22:18 2009, in response to Re: Aqueduct Specials, posted by tunnelrat on Thu Oct 1 11:24:44 2009.

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The current racetrack opened in 1959. It replaced the old Jamaica Race Course that closed early the following year.

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Re: Aqueduct Specials.

Posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Oct 2 19:01:25 2009, in response to Re: Aqueduct Specials., posted by daDouce Man on Fri Oct 2 12:18:32 2009.

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The track connection was never in regular service. Never used on a regular basis. Just a private connection built for August Belmont
and his private subway car the Minola.


Can you please furnish proff or is that another railfan fantasy ?

Nobody has seen a photo of a track in the trackway leading to the LIRR terminal. Until a photo surfaces to prove us wrong, then it's just another fantasy,rumor, call it what you will.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: Aqueduct Specials.

Posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Oct 2 19:08:05 2009, in response to Re: Aqueduct Specials., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Oct 2 08:20:28 2009.

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Thanks for trying to set him straight. But it's no use.

Art Huneke and Vincent Siegfried are the two most knowledgeable LIRR historians that I know of. Maybe there's a third I'm not aware of.

If Art and Vince say no photos exist and the connection was never made, then it's gospel as far as I can see.

Bill Newkirk


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Re: Aqueduct Specials

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Oct 2 21:55:45 2009, in response to Re: Aqueduct Specials, posted by f179dj on Fri Oct 2 16:46:33 2009.

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I have one too. It's about the size of a half dollar.

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Re: Aqueduct Specials

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Oct 2 21:59:47 2009, in response to Re: Aqueduct Specials, posted by f179dj on Fri Oct 2 15:11:12 2009.

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That R-1/9 special I caught was in 1970 or '71.

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Re: Aqueduct Specials.

Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Oct 2 23:06:23 2009, in response to Re: Aqueduct Specials., posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Oct 2 19:01:25 2009.

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Nobody has seen a photo of a track in the trackway leading to the LIRR terminal.

There is a photo floating around showing 76 Street.
How many people won't beliwve that?

The private connection at Atlantic Ave likely lasted only from 1908 to 1924 when August Belmont died.

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Re: Aqueduct Specials.

Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Oct 2 23:08:45 2009, in response to Re: Aqueduct Specials., posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Oct 2 19:08:05 2009.

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The private connection was likely severed about 85 years ago when August Belmont died.

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Re: Aqueduct Specials.

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Oct 2 23:12:05 2009, in response to Re: Aqueduct Specials., posted by daDouce Man on Fri Oct 2 23:06:23 2009.

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ONLY!?!?

That's SIXTEEN YEARS. There would surely be photo proof.

76th street image was an obvious photo shop.

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Re: Aqueduct Specials.

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Oct 2 23:12:58 2009, in response to Re: Aqueduct Specials., posted by daDouce Man on Fri Oct 2 23:08:45 2009.

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Give it a rest

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Re: Aqueduct Specials.

Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Oct 2 23:16:21 2009, in response to Re: Aqueduct Specials., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Oct 2 23:12:05 2009.

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The pic was taken at the tower at Euclid Avenue.
Minus the black take used to cover it.

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Re: Aqueduct Specials.

Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Oct 2 23:19:16 2009, in response to Re: Aqueduct Specials., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Oct 2 23:12:05 2009.

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Belmont had his private car and a route to take it from Belmont Hotel to Belmont Race track on weekends.

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