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EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8 |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 2 21:10:57 2009 PROFF:  
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Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8 |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 2 21:18:11 2009, in response to EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 2 21:10:57 2009. Good catch. Here's the service advisory from the website:Some Utica Av-bound trains run express from Mosholu Pkwy to 125 St AM Rush Hour, 7 AM to 8 AM, Mon to Fri, Jun 8 - 26 Please allow additional travel time at skipped stations. |
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Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8 |
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Posted by SubwayNut on Tue Jun 2 21:26:26 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 2 21:18:11 2009. Was handed a brochure about that this afternoon at Grand Central |
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Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8 |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 2 21:29:31 2009, in response to EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 2 21:10:57 2009. As I recall the Jerome line, there isn't a crossover to the center at Mosholu southbound to M track, so they'll have to do that just before Bedford unless they've added a switch at Mosholu for this. Northbound there is one from M to the northbound right before Mosholu.Gee ... maybe they'll bring back the BWAY THRU EXP! :) |
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Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8 |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Tue Jun 2 21:37:47 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 2 21:18:11 2009. Passengers comprehend what they want. I'm sure some of them at local stations expect these 4 trains would be extras rather than 4 less trains to serve their by-passed station. |
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Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8 |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Jun 2 21:45:57 2009, in response to EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 2 21:10:57 2009. Should be interesting to see how this express plan will work out. I'm surprised they've decided to also skip Bedford Park Blvd, given how many buses stop there. They could use the crossover north of Kingsbridge Road. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Tue Jun 2 21:49:17 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Tue Jun 2 21:37:47 2009. The problem I see happening is if this becomes a full time service , the 4 express will be virtually empty north of Burnside. Unless people at BPB and Kingsbridge take the uptown to Mosholu |
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Posted by B49 limited on Tue Jun 2 22:04:10 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 2 21:18:11 2009. I have a question if this becomes a full - time thing, would this become the <4> diamond or the 8 train? How about also in PM rush? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jun 2 22:19:55 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by B49 limited on Tue Jun 2 22:04:10 2009. It will NOT likely happen for the PM rush.Maybe the reason for running this express has nothing to do with the Bronx. Maybe it is a ploy to get light (4) trains into Manhattan for its uptown customers. ROARING |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jun 2 22:20:19 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by B49 limited on Tue Jun 2 22:04:10 2009. It will NOT likely happen for the PM rush.Maybe the reason for running this express has nothing to do with the Bronx. Maybe it is a ploy to get light (4) trains into Manhattan for its uptown customers. ROARING |
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Posted by (3) Livonia Ave. Local on Tue Jun 2 22:26:28 2009, in response to EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 2 21:10:57 2009. Hmm...another candidate for the "Bronx-Lex Av EXP" sign. I think I actually may venture all the way up to Woodlawn to ride this. |
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Posted by South FERRY on Tue Jun 2 22:27:07 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Jun 2 21:45:57 2009. Yea buses stop there but does BPB have suffice ridership to warrant inclusion in this skip-stopping?? And I'm surprised they didn't try this sooner--- Burnside has always been M track capable and not like the M track just magically got put in. I still miss the 9 which could have benefitted from M track capability IMHO. |
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Posted by RiverLINE3501 on Tue Jun 2 22:33:04 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by B49 limited on Tue Jun 2 22:04:10 2009. How about the <4> Limited. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Jun 2 22:36:23 2009, in response to EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 2 21:10:57 2009. Always nice to have another express service. . .but they really have to make Bedford Pk Blvd a stop--otherwise it loses its purpose. |
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Posted by shadyelstation on Tue Jun 2 22:37:27 2009, in response to EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 2 21:10:57 2009. Nice catch.It'll be interesting to see this in operation. While I understand this is only a test pattern, IMHO it may not be successful with just those stops... |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Jun 2 22:44:00 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jun 2 22:20:19 2009. I wonder if the regular 4 trains that run in between these expresses might do better stopping at 138th instead of cutting in north of there. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 2 22:48:42 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Jun 2 22:44:00 2009. No they won't, it will tie up 5 service, and require two merges. |
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Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8 |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jun 2 23:08:34 2009, in response to EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 2 21:10:57 2009. What are they looking to gain by doing this? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jun 2 23:09:33 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Jun 2 22:36:23 2009. How will it stop there. LOOK AT THE TRACK MAP!ROAR |
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Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8 |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jun 2 23:28:32 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jun 2 23:08:34 2009. Don't forget, the entire IRT is now under the Line Manager program, where they have absolute control and can do experimental things like this and see how it works out.Of course, sane people will say that the trains will be dead empty entering Manhattan. BUT, for people taking the Bee-Line down from Westchester County, this will make their commutes faster, AND it'll make a few trains emptier entering Manhattan, which could help with some of the crowding at 125 Street and 86 Street. |
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Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8 |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 2 23:32:33 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jun 2 23:28:32 2009. Which is VERY likely the reason for doing it in the first place. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jun 2 23:42:17 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jun 2 23:09:33 2009. Calm down Lion, it's not that serious. |
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Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8 |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Tue Jun 2 23:43:11 2009, in response to EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 2 21:10:57 2009. It should technically be a diamond 4. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Tue Jun 2 23:54:16 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 2 23:32:33 2009. Exactly - once the (4)'s reach 125th Street, 2 out of 3 times during the rush it is already SRO, then once it gets down to 86th, forget it... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 2 23:54:53 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jun 2 23:28:32 2009. Of course, sane people will say that the trains will be dead empty entering Manhattan. BUT, for people taking the Bee-Line down from Westchester County, this will make their commutes faster, AND it'll make a few trains emptier entering Manhattan, which could help with some of the crowding at 125 Street and 86 Street.Bingo!!!!! Line Mangers program in effect,rigth there... |
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Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8 |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 2 23:58:16 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by South FERRY on Tue Jun 2 22:27:07 2009. Actually 99% of the bee-line riders on the 4 20 and 21 routes get off the bus at WDL...Seen this myself... |
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Posted by TheGreatOne2k9 on Wed Jun 3 00:00:12 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by (3) Livonia Ave. Local on Tue Jun 2 22:26:28 2009. The signs for this are4 BRONX EXP 4 LEXINGTON AV EXP 4 CROWN HTS-UTICA |
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Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8 |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 3 00:00:48 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by B49 limited on Tue Jun 2 22:04:10 2009. I have a question if this becomes a full - time thing, would this become the <4> diamond or the 8 train? How about also in PM rush?Easy now, les also see how HAL5000 down at 54th street "processes" this "new" information that will be coming its way.... |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Jun 3 00:00:57 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 2 23:58:16 2009. Most of them are off of the bus by Mosholu Parkway. A lot of northbound passengers from the subway get off at Lehman College to get a seat on the bus. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 3 00:03:26 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Jun 3 00:00:57 2009. Yes im aware of this as well i was just talking AM's though... |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Jun 3 00:11:46 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 3 00:03:26 2009. I know what you were talking about brotha no need to clarify it. |
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Posted by rtype3995 on Wed Jun 3 00:26:43 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jun 2 23:28:32 2009. Quote"Don't forget, the entire IRT is now under the Line Manager program, where they have absolute control and can do experimental things like this and see how it works out."Quoteso in regards to more crews, can they make requests on hiring more crews for their line? |
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Posted by JBar387 on Wed Jun 3 00:36:37 2009, in response to EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 2 21:10:57 2009. Huh, Why not PM service back? |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Wed Jun 3 01:47:59 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 3 00:00:48 2009. LOL! LMAO!!! |
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Posted by South Ferry on Wed Jun 3 02:17:50 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Jun 3 00:11:46 2009. den let's be stick to the t0pic, bus brotha!! :) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 3 02:25:52 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Jun 3 00:11:46 2009. Got you bro no problem its all good! |
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Posted by MGL on Wed Jun 3 04:55:04 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by rtype3995 on Wed Jun 3 00:26:43 2009. Anyone, could have requested anything, at any time.Michael |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 3 06:23:10 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by JBar387 on Wed Jun 3 00:36:37 2009. Huh, Why not PM service back?It's probably more to spread passenger loads than to speed service. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Jun 3 09:11:01 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jun 2 23:09:33 2009. I can't find the track map--nycsubway.org's Bronx section just gives me the 2, 5, and 6 and the Jerome yard leads. Anyway, isn't there a crossover around Kingsbridge? Even if it has to be express-on-local just for Kingsbridge, that's no big deal. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 3 09:23:29 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by MGL on Wed Jun 3 04:55:04 2009. Anyone, could have requested anything, at any time.Dont mean that they will "get" what they want... |
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Posted by DCmetrogreen on Wed Jun 3 09:38:47 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Jun 3 09:11:01 2009. Hello?Manhattan Uptown and the Bronx. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Jun 3 10:45:20 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 3 06:23:10 2009. I wonder if this is also incase of Yankees games? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 3 13:25:52 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 2 21:29:31 2009. I wonder what the marker light combination was for that. Green-green, perhaps?:) |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Jun 3 13:28:44 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Tue Jun 2 21:37:47 2009. I'm sure some of them at local stations expect these 4 trains would be extras rather than 4 less trains to serve their by-passed station.There aren't "extras"? The poster that NPD took a picture of sort of implies that they are. Well, at least I thought so ... --Mark |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Jun 3 13:32:22 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by DCmetrogreen on Wed Jun 3 09:38:47 2009. Yeah I've seen that before--just couldn't find it this morning for some reason. So anyway, the southbound crossover from local to express is south of Bedford Pk Blvd making it an ok stop. Going northbound, if they ever put in express service in that direction, I'd say all trains should just be local north of Burnside. |
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Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8 |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 3 14:43:09 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 3 13:25:52 2009. Woulda been yellow/red for 242 ... IRT markers were for destination, not track ... made life interesting. :) |
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Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8 |
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Posted by MGL on Wed Jun 3 16:24:36 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 3 09:23:29 2009. Thanks for the clarification.Michael |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 3 16:59:30 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by MGL on Wed Jun 3 16:24:36 2009. Hey anything i can do to help...;o) |
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Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8 |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Wed Jun 3 17:26:58 2009, in response to EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 2 21:10:57 2009. Interesting. I hope the trains will able to open up on the Jerome express and not an boring timer fest. I hope they use an vintage R62 for the first trip lol. I miss riding those on the 4 line, hoppin and bouncing all over the place. |
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Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8 |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Jun 3 18:23:40 2009, in response to Re: EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: New Jerome line AM express starts test phase on June 8, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 3 14:43:09 2009. Back when the Bway Thru Exp operated, the markers were red/red for a regular Bway Exp and red/yellow for the Bway Thru Exp. Before the mid 1970s IRT and all divisions' markers were different from what they were towards the end of marker usage. After 1959 when the so called Bway "Local Exp" was operated the markers were: V/C -S/F local both directions R/R, "Local Exp" Y/R, Dyckman- S/F both directions G/R and 137 - S/F both directions W/R. The "local Exp" service operated S/B in the AM rush only and initially skipped 191, 181, 157 and 145 Sts. Not too long after the initial service patter, the service was changed so that the Lcl Exps skipped 215, 207, 157 and 145 sts and stopped at 191 and 181 St due to the presence of Geo Washington H S at 191 and the large number of buses from the Bronx dropping off their passengers at 181 St. In the mid 1970s, the marker light system was completely revamped so that all trains bound for a particular destination displayed the same markers regardless of their point of origin. |
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