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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun May 24 13:36:48 2009 Amtrak is pretty diverse around here...Here's the Keystone before electric service was reactivated...taken at SEPTA's Bryn Mawr Station:   And now, electric Keystone service: Paoli:     North Philadelphia:   Trenton, NJ:  The Northeast Corridor itself has a lot of interesting stuff too. Besides the Keystone trains, you have the Acelas, regular Regionals, and special trains that use Superliners! Ridley Park:     Hope you enjoyed the pictures! I wish I had more time and money to truly enjoy what Amtrak has to offer... Also, outside of the Keystone and the Springfield, MA shuttle, are there any other Amtrak lines that use push-pull trainsets? |
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Posted by aem7ac on Sun May 24 13:44:27 2009, in response to PHOTOS: Amtrak in the Philadelphia Area, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun May 24 13:36:48 2009. I can't believe that AEM7s are shoved down to the indignity of being the push-pull locomotive of a fixed-formation shuttle trainset.Scrap the Acelas!!! No one rides them anyway. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sun May 24 14:07:31 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Amtrak in the Philadelphia Area, posted by aem7ac on Sun May 24 13:44:27 2009. Actually I would beg to differ on that - it depends on where and when you observe the ridership - at 30th Street, yes the ridership is lower than at lets say South Station or Penn or Union - however, on Fridays those trains are pretty full... |
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Posted by aem7ac on Sun May 24 14:30:07 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Amtrak in the Philadelphia Area, posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sun May 24 14:07:31 2009. Actually I would beg to differ on that - it depends on where and when you observe the ridership - at 30th Street, yes the ridership is lower than at lets say South Station or Penn or Union - however, on Fridays those trains are pretty full...do u remember when NECIP II was first completed, there was a service called "Northeast Direct". it ran on a limited stop pattern between washington and boston, making the penn to boston leg in about 4 hr 15 mins. behind an AEM-7 or sometimes two AEM-7s, with a long string of amfleets (7-9 cahs). back then, the one way fare was something between $40 and $80 dependings on time of day or discounts. today the same service takes nearly 5 hours and makes every single local stop along the way scraping the walls, and is pulled by a crappy HHP-8 with only 5-6 coaches that have the "commuter style" capstone rebuild. the ticket costs between $80 and $140, depending on when you're travelling. what the hell happened to amtrak? 8 years of bush administration. |
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Posted by xtimx on Sun May 24 14:45:56 2009, in response to PHOTOS: Amtrak in the Philadelphia Area, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun May 24 13:36:48 2009. awesome pics. and i think you mean viewliners, not superliners. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun May 24 15:43:04 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Amtrak in the Philadelphia Area, posted by aem7ac on Sun May 24 13:44:27 2009. Scrap the Acelas!!! No one rides them anyway.From a foamer perspective, the tilting and acceleration are worth at least one trip. :) |
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Posted by aem7ac on Sun May 24 15:45:04 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Amtrak in the Philadelphia Area, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun May 24 15:43:04 2009. From a foamer perspective, the tilting and acceleration are worth at least one trip. :)The only Acela trip I have ever been on is a non-rev trip between South Sta and Southampton St Yd. It was quicker than taking the Red Line. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun May 24 15:52:17 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Amtrak in the Philadelphia Area, posted by aem7ac on Sun May 24 15:45:04 2009. The only Acela trip I have ever been on is a non-rev trip between South Sta and Southampton St Yd.I rode from Washington Union Station to New York Penn Station. Let's just say that the hour I saved was worth the extra Amtrak Guest Rewards points that I used up... |
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Posted by aem7ac on Sun May 24 16:13:58 2009, in response to PHOTOS: Amtrak in the Philadelphia Area, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun May 24 13:36:48 2009. Also, outside of the Keystone and the Springfield, MA shuttle, are there any other Amtrak lines that use push-pull trainsets?The Vermonter, Ethan Allen, and the Downeaster had at various times been push-pull. The Vermonter is push-pull because interchange from CSX to NECR (New England Central Railroad) at Palmer involves a change of direction. Downeaster is push-pull because there isn't a real runaround facility at Boston's North Station. Ethan Allen is push-pull for the same reason. It's possible that one day the Empire Service may become push-pull. Most of Amtrak California's network is push-pull, with a EMD F59PHI at one end and a double-decker cab car at the other end, really just a modified Superliner. Even before Amtrak California got its new equipment, I believe the San Diegan (back then operated with GP-50 Pepsi Cans) was push pull. Certainly I have heard/seen Cabbage cars deployed on Amtrak's once-upon-a-time Hiawatha service, Ann Arbor service, Port Huron service, Kansas City Mule, and other shuttle services around Chicago. However, these services have not been consistently push-pull as the equipment is shifted around. Clearly the Northwest Talgo trainsets are push-pull. I believe the Oklahoma City Star has never been push-pull, that train used old Sante Fe highliner trainsets with P40s, the last time I saw it. Did I miss anything? AEM7AC |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Sun May 24 16:58:11 2009, in response to PHOTOS: Amtrak in the Philadelphia Area, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun May 24 13:36:48 2009. Nice pics! Those are Viewliners, btw, not Superliners. Viewliners are not bi-level, they are single level, but have windows for the bedroom/roomette upper berths. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun May 24 19:26:51 2009, in response to PHOTOS: Amtrak in the Philadelphia Area, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun May 24 13:36:48 2009. If this is Paoli I haven't been there since the late 80's when the Reading Blueliners were running. I understand the yard there was ripped up ?Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sun May 24 20:01:33 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Amtrak in the Philadelphia Area, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun May 24 19:26:51 2009. It is, indeed, Paoli; yes, the yard is gone. 
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Posted by DCmetrogreen on Sun May 24 21:32:23 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Amtrak in the Philadelphia Area, posted by aem7ac on Sun May 24 16:13:58 2009. Minor Nitpick: The "Pepsi Can" engines are DASH 8-32BWH from GE, not GP-50's. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun May 24 22:34:28 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Amtrak in the Philadelphia Area, posted by aem7ac on Sun May 24 16:13:58 2009. Even before Amtrak California got its new equipment, I believe the San Diegan (back then operated with GP-50 Pepsi Cans) was push pull.Yes it was. I think the trains that originated in Santa Barbara pushed to L. A., then pulled to San Diego. Then the opposite northbound. The last time I rode the San Diegan in April 1996 from SD to LAUS, the entire cab car was closed off to the public :( |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun May 24 23:48:37 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Amtrak in the Philadelphia Area, posted by xtimx on Sun May 24 14:45:56 2009. Oh! Yes, thanks for the correction and the kind comment! |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun May 24 23:53:15 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Amtrak in the Philadelphia Area, posted by JohnnyMints on Sun May 24 16:58:11 2009. Thanks! What lines do the Viewliners operate on? |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun May 24 23:58:58 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Amtrak in the Philadelphia Area, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun May 24 23:53:15 2009. Silver services to Florida (Star and Meteor), Crescent, Lake Shore Limited, and Cardinal.Basically, the overnight routes east of Chicago except for the Capitol Limited and Auto Train. |
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