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Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 15 09:10:42 2009

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:-)

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Apr 15 09:20:09 2009, in response to Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 15 09:10:42 2009.

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Looks enticing. I think I'll go jogging there today!!



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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 15 09:49:18 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Apr 15 09:20:09 2009.

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TEAR DOWN THE CULVER SHUTTLE EL!!!!!!



Oh wait, I got carried away, it's already torn down!


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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by Allan on Wed Apr 15 10:17:03 2009, in response to Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 15 09:10:42 2009.

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David - what are you going to do? Tear up all the streets that were paved after the el was torn down to make a trail?

I have walked the Culver Shuttle a couple of years back from the fence outside the yard (where you can see the portal) to where it connects at Ditmas. Not much to speak of - mainly auto shops and other small businesses, some private homes.



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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by jabrams on Wed Apr 15 13:06:39 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 15 09:49:18 2009.

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If I remember correctly (from the last time I was there), there are houses (condos) already built on most of the land under the el (SBK tracks connecting MacDonald Ave. with the 36th St, yard)

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by vfrt on Wed Apr 15 14:00:14 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by Allan on Wed Apr 15 10:17:03 2009.

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Any remnants of the tracks remaining?

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 15 14:04:18 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by Allan on Wed Apr 15 10:17:03 2009.

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I think some private homes were built right on top of the ROW in some locations.

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Apr 15 14:05:39 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Apr 15 09:20:09 2009.

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That's long gone...the ROW has been built on at many points.

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Apr 15 14:06:54 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 15 14:04:18 2009.

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Indeed, you can see them from the F train at Ditmas Ave, the el would go right through the second floor of these new homes.

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Apr 15 14:09:25 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Apr 15 14:06:54 2009.

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They could build a platform right in your kitchen, so you get off the train with your groceries and take two steps to your refrigerator door. :0)

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Apr 15 14:43:42 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Apr 15 14:09:25 2009.

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When will said apartment be available?

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Apr 15 14:43:57 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Apr 15 14:43:42 2009.

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8-)

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by EastSideRider on Wed Apr 15 15:04:01 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Apr 15 14:09:25 2009.

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Sadly, with the way some NY-ers act about how the MTA should do things, thats almost how some people want things, as if they want 'em to have MTA butlers carry them from their house to the subway, to their own dedicated subway car that would take them wherever they wanna go. >_>

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Should the abandoned North Shore line become a trail!

Posted by EastSideRider on Wed Apr 15 15:05:22 2009, in response to Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 15 09:10:42 2009.

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Title corrected, Ha! :-P

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Apr 15 15:30:36 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by vfrt on Wed Apr 15 14:00:14 2009.

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Outside of (maybe) surface tracks, the structure was torn down years ago. And the surface tracks by now likely been taken out.

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Re: Should the abandoned North Shore line become a trail!

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Apr 15 15:35:04 2009, in response to Should the abandoned North Shore line become a trail!, posted by EastSideRider on Wed Apr 15 15:05:22 2009.

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If anything, the North Shore line should be a freight line coming from New Jersey.

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by randyo on Wed Apr 15 15:36:57 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Apr 15 14:43:42 2009.

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If that were actually the case, the entire housing complex along the ROW would be occupied by railfans!

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 15 16:40:54 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by randyo on Wed Apr 15 15:36:57 2009.

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I remember when I was looking at houses some years ago, we were at a house with a realtor, and the realtor was talking about how great the house was, and then came, "....but the negative part is that it backs up to the railroad tracks....". I wanted to say, "You make it sound like that's a bad thing"...Haha.

Well, I didn't by the house, but it wasn't because of the tracks, lol.

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Apr 15 17:13:52 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 15 16:40:54 2009.

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I would welcome the railroad tracks in back of my house. There are some homes along the Boonton line in NJ which aren't even fenced off from the tracks. I could foam without ever leaving the comfort of my own home.

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by Dan on Wed Apr 15 18:26:45 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Apr 15 15:30:36 2009.

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Structure came down in 1982/83. Surface rails most likely torn up or on private property now.

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by Dan on Wed Apr 15 18:29:41 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Apr 15 17:13:52 2009.

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No fencing at all? Not even a low fence?

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Apr 15 18:49:37 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by Dan on Wed Apr 15 18:26:45 2009.

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At the time I was working one day a week at Church Avenue on the F.
One day after work I walked over to the Culver Shuttle. Fort Hamilton I think. I had ideas about going up the stairs into the station. But part of the staircase was missing. The following week I walked back over there and the structure was gone.

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 15 19:04:12 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by Dan on Wed Apr 15 18:29:41 2009.

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That's very common in less suburban areas. Fences are almost unheard of the more rural it gets. In Eastern Suffolk, many houses also aren't fenced off.

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by R-1-9 on Wed Apr 15 19:34:35 2009, in response to Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 15 09:10:42 2009.

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LOL,you must be joking,when was the last time your walked the ex-ROW of the culver line???????????.Parking lots and houses on the ex-ROW.May be the ramp down into the tunnel to 9th ave lower.Shame can,t do that its in the yard limits.

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by BMT Guy on Wed Apr 15 20:12:06 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by jabrams on Wed Apr 15 13:06:39 2009.

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Yup.....there are townhouses built on the old Culver (and SBK) ROW. Not a remnant remains to remind anyone of it's former glory. :-(

At least NYCT saw fit to keep the trackage leading up from Ninth Avenue lower level to the fencing at Fort Hamilton Parkway. The old BMT Burro Crane was kept over there till a couple of years ago. I think Kingston Trolley Museum has it now.

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Apr 15 22:27:11 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Apr 15 18:49:37 2009.

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"But part of the staircase was missing. The following week I walked back over there and the structure was gone."

Good thing that staircase was missing or you might have been transported into the other universe where the el is now.



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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Wed Apr 15 22:46:26 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by BMT Guy on Wed Apr 15 20:12:06 2009.

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I know it was moved in the past year or 2, but to Kingston? Can they even fun it up there?

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Apr 16 11:28:54 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by Dan on Wed Apr 15 18:29:41 2009.

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Nope. Especially in Montville and Mountain Lakes.

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Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu Apr 16 17:07:32 2009, in response to Re: Should the abandoned Culver shuttle line become a trail!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 15 19:04:12 2009.

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Yup, my friends childhood home here in Delaware is right up against the CSX line, no fence no thing. Even my friends house in Port Washington has no fence blocking it from the LIRR....but there are a LOT of trees...and a creek

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