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Re: Extending E may not work well |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Apr 24 11:53:20 2007, in response to Re: Extending E may not work well, posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 24 03:55:21 2007. I really shouldn't complain about their complaint. The current arrangement appears to work well enough, so that's what counts. |
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Re: S. 4th St Station as a Transit Museum |
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Posted by Clayton on Tue Apr 24 12:05:21 2007, in response to Re: S. 4th St Station as a Transit Museum, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 24 00:36:09 2007. It's a steel dust trap. You can get what may feel like 5 years of steel dust accumulation in a transit worker's lungs within 2 minutes! |
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Re: Flatbush Avenue Brooklyn College extention |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Apr 24 14:57:35 2007, in response to Re: Flatbush Avenue Brooklyn College extention, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Apr 18 19:37:06 2007. The water table issue sounds about right. Canal St. and Chambers St. would have paled in comparison with what might have been had that line been built as a subway.Send for the lifeguards! Call the plumber! Man the oars! |
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Re: Flatbush Avenue Brooklyn College extention |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Apr 24 15:00:17 2007, in response to Re: Flatbush Avenue Brooklyn College extention, posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 18 21:45:01 2006. I was at the Broadway station last fall and saw what looked like an opening in the ceiling above the s/b track near the northern end - looked like a ventilation shaft of some sort. Perhaps it goes up to the unused shell above. |
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Re: Flatbush Avenue Brooklyn College extention |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Tue Apr 24 15:28:44 2007, in response to Re: Flatbush Avenue Brooklyn College extention, posted by Q35 Limited on Mon Apr 23 01:05:10 2007. Oh ok, you want to combine the B2/Q35? Would the ride to the Brigthon be longer than to the IRT at Nostrand? |
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Re: Flatbush Avenue Brooklyn College extention |
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Posted by TunnelRat on Tue Apr 24 23:53:09 2007, in response to Re: Flatbush Avenue Brooklyn College extention, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Apr 24 15:00:17 2007. the station was built in 1937. |
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Re: S. 4th St Station as a Transit Museum |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Apr 25 05:11:07 2007, in response to Re: S. 4th St Station as a Transit Museum, posted by Clayton on Tue Apr 24 12:05:21 2007. IAWTP. Back in 1970 when I was a new T/D, the late trainmaster Geo Abere and I walked the entire Roosevelt Av upper level complex overnight. When I got home the next morning I was pouring the steel dust out of my shoes. |
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Re: S. 4th St Station as a Transit Museum |
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Posted by TunnelRat on Wed Apr 25 08:40:07 2007, in response to Re: S. 4th St Station as a Transit Museum, posted by randyo on Wed Apr 25 05:11:07 2007. I had soooo much steeldust in my lungs that a magnet stuck to my chest. |
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Re: S. 4th St Station as a Transit Museum |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Apr 25 08:40:45 2007, in response to Re: S. 4th St Station as a Transit Museum, posted by TunnelRat on Wed Apr 25 08:40:07 2007. Perhaps you have a magnetic personality.:) |
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Re: S. 4th St Station as a Transit Museum |
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Posted by TunnelRat on Wed Apr 25 08:42:48 2007, in response to Re: S. 4th St Station as a Transit Museum, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Apr 25 08:40:45 2007. that goes w/o saying. |
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Re: Extending E may not work well |
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Posted by avid reader on Wed Apr 25 16:06:38 2007, in response to Re: Extending E may not work well, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Oct 19 23:59:41 2006. What the "E" needs is an eleventh car or more!There once was a time when the "E" and"F" were 660 ft long. Bring that back and may be the E could be extended and absorb the additional riders. Try it as R160 come on line if a surplus of cars can be put on as an in service test. Matching car types of course. Maybe. avid |
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Posted by ajpardi63 on Wed Apr 25 18:55:55 2007, in response to Re: Extending E may not work well, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Oct 19 23:59:41 2006. given the fact that New York city population is expected to grow why are we revisiting the idea of extending existing lines toward the city lines? IE 179 street towards Nassau County and parsons archer south and east? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Apr 25 19:06:15 2007, in response to Re: Extending E may not work well, posted by ajpardi63 on Wed Apr 25 18:55:55 2007. Archer Av east is about serving the Jamaica CBD and proving a better reverse commute to people who live along the Jamaica Line. It is a relatively underutilized line. Expanding it is not in the same category at the Hillside A line discussion.Having said that, I agree with you that addiional capacity in areas seeing higher density coming is important. The7 extension to Javits is important for that reason, and new lines into Queens, Brooklyn and the Bronx would help a lot too. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed Apr 25 23:04:22 2007, in response to Re: Extending E may not work well, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Apr 25 19:06:15 2007. Archer Av east is about serving the Jamaica CBD and proving a better reverse commute to people who live along the Jamaica Line. It is a relatively underutilized line. Expanding it is not in the same category at the Hillside A line discussion.Well, yes, Archer would connect points east to the Jamaica CBD, but the Jamaica CBD itself is not a huge destination point. |
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Re: Extending E may not work well |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed Apr 25 23:06:14 2007, in response to Re: Extending E may not work well, posted by avid reader on Wed Apr 25 16:06:38 2007. Do all stations along the E have the required space? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Apr 25 23:07:44 2007, in response to Re: Extending E may not work well, posted by J trainloco on Wed Apr 25 23:04:22 2007. "but the Jamaica CBD itself is not a huge destination point."Not true. It's a very substantial destination point for shoppers and employees. Not as big as midtown Manhattan or Flushing, but it's growing and will be substantially bigger within a few years. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed Apr 25 23:14:26 2007, in response to Re: Extending E may not work well, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Apr 25 23:07:44 2007. Not true. It's a very substantial destination point for shoppers and employees.Certainly. But we need to talk in relative terms here. Extending the E beyond its current terminal would help these people you mention, but the vast majority of riders would be headed to points beyond Jamaica. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Apr 26 02:12:29 2007, in response to Re: Extending E may not work well, posted by J trainloco on Wed Apr 25 23:14:26 2007. "Extending the E beyond its current terminal would help these people you mention, but the vast majority of riders would be headed to points beyond Jamaica."Meaning the people who come into the city in the AM and leave in the PM. If the subway extension helps shorten the bus ride, then you've sbstituted a less expensive tranport vehicle (operating cost) instead of the more expensive one, so it can be of benefit that way. (Ditto for the Hillside branch). However, the Hillside subway branch is a peripheral supplement for the reverse commute, and does not serve Brooklyn riders (few riders would make the full length run to 179 St from southern Brooklyn). So the reverse commute to Jamaica CBD is pretty exclusively a Jamaica Line function. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Thu Apr 26 10:41:29 2007, in response to Re: Extending E may not work well, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Apr 26 02:12:29 2007. I was misunderstanding what you were saying. I get you.Anyway, the more I think about it, the more I realize is that while cost-effective extensions of the Archer and Hillside lines would be great, what's really needed is new Queens Trunk Line. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Apr 26 10:47:29 2007, in response to Re: Extending E may not work well, posted by J trainloco on Thu Apr 26 10:41:29 2007. That would be fantastic. There is spare capacity in the 63rd St tunnel. There have been many posts about hanging another route off of that. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Thu Apr 26 11:00:56 2007, in response to Re: Extending E may not work well, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Apr 26 10:47:29 2007. Yup. Whether it's a super express for Queens Boulevard, or something that follows the old 'Horace Harding |
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Re: Flatbush Avenue Brooklyn College extention |
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Posted by American Pig on Thu Apr 26 18:20:03 2007, in response to Re: Flatbush Avenue Brooklyn College extention, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 18 18:39:46 2006. If a Utica subway were built to Avenue U, the Kings Plaza parking garage would make a perfect park and ride. I'd build a ramp directly onto the southbound lanes of Flatbush and RIRO-ize the TOYS-"я"-US/Marine Park Golf Course intersections to make a direct non-stoplight link to the garage. |
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Re: Utica Avenue Subway |
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Posted by American Pig on Thu Apr 26 18:38:21 2007, in response to Re: Utica Avenue Subway, posted by shadyelstation on Mon Apr 23 20:07:33 2007. I'd skip Avenue N. Not much there. Flatlands to U is about right.Also, not much of a point having separate Bergen and Fulton stops. |
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Re: Brooklyn subway needs |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Mar 18 21:23:32 2009, in response to Re: Brooklyn subway needs, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Oct 19 19:09:07 2006. First post, have I finally found you?!? |
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Re: Utica Avenue Subway |
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Posted by GIS Man on Fri Mar 20 09:38:34 2009, in response to Re: Utica Avenue Subway, posted by American Pig on Thu Apr 26 18:38:21 2007. A little too far from Flatlands to U. Flatlands crosses Utica right above K. You'd skip L, M, N, O, Fillmore, S and T.Bob |
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Re: Brooklyn subway needs |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Mar 20 12:30:27 2009, in response to Re: Brooklyn subway needs, posted by Rail Blue on Fri Oct 20 15:26:59 2006. No-one knows? |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Mar 20 12:33:53 2009, in response to Re: Brooklyn subway needs, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Oct 21 06:22:31 2006. Okay, so here's the challenge: can anyone redesign the Brooklyn Bus Network so that it makes sense?This is an interesting thread. Thanks to whoever necroposted it. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Mar 20 12:36:09 2009, in response to Re: Brooklyn subway needs, posted by Rail Blue on Fri Oct 20 15:41:34 2006. I wonder if he did get out his compasses. Or his ranging rods. ;-)Isn't Circle Filter great... |
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Re: Utica Avenue Subway |
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Posted by B47man on Fri Mar 20 12:36:11 2009, in response to Re: Utica Avenue Subway, posted by shadyelstation on Mon Apr 23 20:07:33 2007. The basement of Boys and Girls High School(built in 1974)sits right against the southern part of the station shell at Utica Av & Fulton St. You'll also catch a lot of the business from the neighborhood considering how Stuyvesant Av was completely rebuilt a couple of years ago. |
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Re: Utica Avenue Subway |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Mar 20 12:49:30 2009, in response to Re: Utica Avenue Subway, posted by GIS Man on Fri Mar 20 09:38:34 2009. The stations aren't points though. The south end of a Flatlands Av station would be just north of L, and the north end of an Av U station would be just south of T.I'd suggest stations at 23rd and 10th, 8th, 6th, Madison Sq, and 2nd, then: Greenpoint Avenue (G) (Franklin St-Manhattan Av) McGolrick Park (Nassau Av-Driggs Av; don't call it Nassau Av for obvious reasons) Grand Street (L) (-Maujer St) Montrose Avenue (L) (centered, as L train above) Myrtle Avenue/Broadway (J)(M)(Z) (-Willoughby Av) Gates Avenue (Lexington Av-) Halsey Street (Jefferson Av-) Fulton Street(A)(C) (-Atlantic Av) Eastern Parkway(3)(4) (St John's Pl-) Remsen Avenue (-Midwood St) Church Avenue (Linden Blvd-) Avenue D (Clarendon Rd -) Avenue H (Kings Hwy-) Flatlands Avenue (-L) Kings Plaza (T-U) |
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Re: Brooklyn subway needs |
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Posted by B47man on Fri Mar 20 12:50:44 2009, in response to Re: Brooklyn subway needs, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Oct 21 06:22:31 2006. It can be done...but not all at once. If is done do it in sections,i.e. No. Bklyn, So. Bklyn, etc... . But no boro in NYC has had a major restructuring of its bus routes ever done; unless you count southeastern Queens 21 years ago, and I don't call that major. |
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Re: Utica Avenue Subway |
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Posted by shadyelstation on Fri Mar 20 12:56:09 2009, in response to Re: Utica Avenue Subway, posted by B47man on Fri Mar 20 12:36:11 2009. True; the Utica Ave subway as I posted it two years ago is not palatable at all due to the school (and other private property issues). Such issues could be mitigated if the Utica line took Malcolm X Blvd instead of Stuyvesant Ave (this also avoids the school, but introduces new issues in the vicinity of Broadway). |
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Posted by B47man on Fri Mar 20 13:11:48 2009, in response to Re: Utica Avenue Subway, posted by shadyelstation on Fri Mar 20 12:56:09 2009. Yep..such as bus service(B46). But that wouldn't be a problem ; just run them on Patchen Ave like they did when it was rebuilt in the mid 80's. |
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Re: S. 4th St Station as a Transit Museum |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Mar 20 18:21:37 2009, in response to Re: S. 4th St Station as a Transit Museum, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 24 00:36:09 2007. The S 4 St shell does not cross Broadway, it is parallel to it. It crosses Union Av so it would be as long as Union Av is wide or possibly slightly past the building lines at each end to insure that future construction would not interfere with Crosstown Line subway service below. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 20 18:32:24 2009, in response to Re: S. 4th St Station as a Transit Museum, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Apr 25 08:40:45 2007. Perhaps you have a magnetic personality.:)Steve is a polarizing figure. |
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