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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 24 19:23:00 2008 Funny with the MTA crying broke,now this is on the comeback..Either way you lose... Skullduggery.... Hey The Gov says it sounds like a good idea |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jun 24 19:30:48 2008, in response to Guess What may make a "Comeback"? Congestion Pricing.., posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 24 19:23:00 2008. Not TOO surprising, although I think that the reporter misread Ravitch. All that he says is that it should be considered among other options, which it certainly should be, including the no-changes option, of course.Paterson's going to one-term himself if congestion pricing passes; that's my guess. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 24 19:33:09 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jun 24 19:30:48 2008. Hey nothing thats done in this state surprises me anymore.. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jun 24 20:50:21 2008, in response to Guess What may make a "Comeback"? Congestion Pricing.., posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 24 19:23:00 2008. Sure it sounds like a good idea, but has he ever seen it?ROARING |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Jun 24 20:53:51 2008, in response to Guess What may make a "Comeback"? Congestion Pricing.., posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 24 19:23:00 2008. looks like any idiot can be governor these days, like president.Remember when people were excited when this new brownie Paterson became governor? People were like : he's different, and will bring change to albany.... Now what? Same crap as before, school funding cut, and now playing ping pong with ideas. |
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Posted by EastSideRider on Tue Jun 24 21:10:28 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Jun 24 20:53:51 2008. Yes, that HILLARY was a handful wasn't she? :-PBut really, he's fresh to the seat. When you started something new, didn't you screw up a few times before getting things right? Plus, since you bought up presidents, who are you voting for in 2008? (Yeah I know, this would go to OTChat, sorry) |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Jun 24 21:17:23 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by EastSideRider on Tue Jun 24 21:10:28 2008. I have posted similar stuff on OT CHAT before. Now i usually post on subchat though.I would vote for Obama, but i doubt he would bring any change, he would meet a LOT of counter-action from the rich greedy geezers. Plus he is still a politician like the others, so he might have interests too. a thread in OT chat about this, but older |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Tue Jun 24 21:58:27 2008, in response to Guess What may make a "Comeback"? Congestion Pricing.., posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 24 19:23:00 2008. Hey, it will fund transit |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Jun 24 22:03:09 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by 7th Avenue Express on Tue Jun 24 21:58:27 2008. we'll see. I am not a communist, but they are forcing communist practices on us. England, especially London's current state is ripped right out of 1984. They can take a few of the billions being spent in Iraq and revitaliaze the whole system, and build new lines, albeit with good managment needed.And i am sure a lot of it will find its way into the pockets and behinds of politicians. |
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Posted by j trainloco on Tue Jun 24 22:05:51 2008, in response to Guess What may make a "Comeback"? Congestion Pricing.., posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 24 19:23:00 2008. Congestion pricing is a good idea. You have to pay to ride the subway, why should you use the streets for free? |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Jun 24 22:09:32 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by j trainloco on Tue Jun 24 22:05:51 2008. You have to make the subway more appealing than the streets, that is how it was done in the old days. Good service. Go to BMT-lines website and read about Gerhard M. Dahl.Now they will be forcing more people into a subway which is run poorly, and is poorly taken care of. When the ridership spikes, the managment and executives will have the right to say "we can't do anything, ridership is too high, deal with it"...no, don't like the idea. Would you like people to pay for air and water too?...oh wait, people already have to pay for water. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jun 24 22:24:49 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Jun 24 22:09:32 2008. Do you even know what you are talking about? |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Jun 24 22:26:28 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jun 24 22:24:49 2008. yes, you have to read the past, see what crap the TA throws at the riders to eat. we are lucky GUNN was president and got the system out of the crap hole. Looks like more liars are in power now though:( |
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Posted by 7trainkrys on Tue Jun 24 22:46:05 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Jun 24 22:09:32 2008. They do. They put out fancy coach buses and charge $41 a week to ride. Screw 'em anyhow. |
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Posted by 7trainkrys on Tue Jun 24 22:53:51 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Jun 24 20:53:51 2008. I think the fuel costs required to operate mandated paratransit and increased bus service will be a lone factor in perpetuating a fare increase. If anything the money used to buy vehicles and railcars and infrastructure is money saved down the line. Using CP funds for express buses is one of the worst schemes but it is the only short term plan to sell their "green" idea. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed Jun 25 22:24:52 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Jun 24 22:09:32 2008. Now they will be forcing more people into a subway which is run poorly, and is poorly taken care of.Did you actually ride the subway in the 80s? the 70s? How about the late 30s, before unification? Today's subway has its drawbacks, for sure (slow trains, is my main gripe), but Maintenance on the system right now is at its highest point in history. Would you like people to pay for air and water too?...oh wait, people already have to pay for water. You don't pay for water, you pay for the delivery and filtration of that water. If you want to dig a well, go right ahead and access your "free" water. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Jun 25 22:34:11 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by J trainloco on Wed Jun 25 22:24:52 2008. oh, and what are taxes for?Should i also pay for the services the military is providing in eye-rack? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 25 22:37:38 2008, in response to Guess What may make a "Comeback"? Congestion Pricing.., posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 24 19:23:00 2008. I see the Gov has learned from the EU and is now considering the Lisbon Treaty approach on this issue. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 25 22:37:59 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Jun 25 22:34:11 2008. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 25 22:38:57 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 25 22:37:38 2008. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed Jun 25 22:58:20 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Jun 25 22:34:11 2008. What are taxes for? Essential services you can't select whether or not you use. Why not move to a communist nation so you don't have to pay for anything? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 25 23:05:38 2008, in response to Guess What may make a "Comeback"? Congestion Pricing.., posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 24 19:23:00 2008. However...Sheldon Silver is still in the equation...and Malcolm Smith isn't exactly enthralled. If Silver had allowed for a vote, Smith was prepared to flee Albany with Assembly Democrats to prevent the necessary quorum for a vote. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 25 23:06:44 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jun 24 19:30:48 2008. Not really...businesses will finance him heavily and drown out the other candidate. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 25 23:08:09 2008, in response to Guess What may make a "Comeback"? Congestion Pricing.., posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 24 19:23:00 2008. The only way it will happen, however, is if both Silver and Brodsky retire or kick the bucket. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jun 25 23:09:07 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Jun 24 22:03:09 2008. They can take a few of the billions being spent in Iraq and revitaliaze the whole system, and build new lines, albeit with good managment needed.There is no guarantee that NYCTA would receive any of those funds. The funds may simply not be spent in order to reduce federal deficits, or spent on other cities that have smaller systems or no systems at all. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Jun 25 23:09:51 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by J trainloco on Wed Jun 25 22:58:20 2008. you are an IMBECIL!!! A venician, probably worse than forest glenn. Do you wear an ipod? Do you jog on the manhattan bridge? You are a chump, with a BAD, and NEGATIVE attitude, and this leads to bad energy, which you try to infect others with, and you are CONTEMPTUOUS because you are SAD that you let the ipods, texting machines, and mcdonalds, destroy you, only to leave behind a zombie that can't think, and now you want to force others to subscribe to your fate... NO THANKS!!!But here is some advice for you: you CAN learn, it is never too late, be strong, and don't give in, FIGHT the system, pt down your brain melting machines... and just walk around, and ponder, think about something like what type of gift you would give to a girlfriend if you have one, how you can help earth, just be guy, and don't be a zombie, it is scary, i see LOTS of zombies these days, who can't think, what a shame, they alter their environments, and they kill themselves, and they forget that they are human. This is the perverted greedy man's dream come true: everyone in his control, so don't et it happen. Know that there *IS* more than what meets the eye, energies within the aethers, we cannot see, but they affect us, yet we can't tell WE all have the ability to do complex math in our head within seconds::: Here is my proof.. think about it: Dreams last a few seconds, yet you percieve them to be minutes, sometimes hours long, yet in those dreams you see and solve many problems in math...think about it, think about what you are truly capable of...be true, and honest to yourself, and QUESTION. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed Jun 25 23:14:44 2008, in response to ***Everyone here has the ability to Do heavy Math in their Heads...FAST.***, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Jun 25 23:09:51 2008. Despite all that, you didn't address the issue. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Jun 25 23:18:09 2008, in response to Re: ***Everyone here has the ability to Do heavy Math in their Heads...FAST.***, posted by J trainloco on Wed Jun 25 23:14:44 2008. Taxes should cover water. These days, taxes just stuff politician's pockets, so we all pay double. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jun 25 23:23:00 2008, in response to ***Everyone here has the ability to Do heavy Math in their Heads...FAST.***, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Jun 25 23:09:51 2008. A venician, probably worse than forest glennAesthetics uber alles. Do you wear an ipod? I love my iPod and I'm sometimes found texting a romantic interest from time to time. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jun 25 23:23:07 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 25 23:05:38 2008. It's not just Silver - Bloomberg and his green allies failed to line up the votes in the Assembly necessary for passage. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed Jun 25 23:23:40 2008, in response to Re: ***Everyone here has the ability to Do heavy Math in their Heads...FAST.***, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Jun 25 23:18:09 2008. What Taxes SHOULD cover is moot. Every country has taxes covering different amounts of services. Since you hate it so much, Move to Sweeden and pay half of your income to the government. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jun 25 23:25:32 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 25 23:06:44 2008. Time will tell. But my expectation is that all the money in donations will still not help David Paterson if furious voters retaliate against him for making their way of life more expensive. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jun 25 23:37:48 2008, in response to Re: ***Everyone here has the ability to Do heavy Math in their Heads...FAST.***, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jun 25 23:23:00 2008. I love my iPod and I'm sometimes found texting a romantic interest from time to time.And it will consign you to the bonds of hell fire!!!! 'Be GUY!!! And positive!!!! No i-pod textings machines !!!!' :) |
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Posted by Russ on Thu Jun 26 00:44:32 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jun 24 19:30:48 2008. Paterson's going to one-term himself if congestion pricing passes; that's my guess.Virtually no correlation between such an action and reelection given the time difference for the two. See Machiavelli for a detailed explanation. |
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Posted by Russ on Thu Jun 26 00:45:33 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jun 24 20:50:21 2008. Sure it sounds like a good idea, but has he ever seen it?Only when Lion hunting. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Thu Jun 26 01:16:53 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by J trainloco on Wed Jun 25 22:24:52 2008. How about the late 30s, before unification?Late 30s were some of the best years ever - Multis, Green Hornet, Zephyr and Bluebirds roamed the BMT!! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 26 02:53:13 2008, in response to ***Everyone here has the ability to Do heavy Math in their Heads...FAST.***, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Jun 25 23:09:51 2008. You're a nucking fut. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 26 02:54:09 2008, in response to Re: ***Everyone here has the ability to Do heavy Math in their Heads...FAST.***, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Jun 25 23:18:09 2008. No they shouldn't. Why should my taxes go to paying to fill someone else's swimming pool? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 26 03:14:50 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by j trainloco on Tue Jun 24 22:05:51 2008. Because one has always had to pay for the subway. The streets have always been free. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 26 05:09:09 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by J trainloco on Wed Jun 25 22:24:52 2008. I can't dig a well in NYC without spending a truckload of money on environmental impact studies, DEP permits, insurance, and lawyers...So much for accessing "free" water...then again, I couldn't dig a subway tunnel of my own, either...only Beach was able to get away with that one...;-) |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 26 05:20:13 2008, in response to Re: ***Everyone here has the ability to Do heavy Math in their Heads...FAST.***, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 26 02:54:09 2008. Here's an interesting one for you guys: Taxes pay for the operation of FDNY, like they do for fire departments in most large cities. Yet you still get billed for FDNY ambulance service when you use it. However, FDNY does not charge you to put out your house fire (or even a fire in a skyscraper)...that's paid for through tax levies...Now, taxes pay for (in subsidies) the operation of NYCT...but New Yorkers pay a higher percentage of NYCT's operating costs in fares than most other US cities...what if, just what if, those billions being spent in Iraq were used to fund (among other things) NYCT's ops so the system was free? (If you can find money to kill people, you can find money to help people...) ...and before SubChatters get up in arms and call me crazy, recall that once upon a time, CUNY was FREE...people got their college educations and the city didn't go broke...taxes paid for it all, and people paid less in taxes then, than today... |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jun 26 06:23:05 2008, in response to Re: ***Everyone here has the ability to Do heavy Math in their Heads...FAST.***, posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jun 25 23:37:48 2008. I prefer to wear a Victrola on my head to listen to music. They had frames and were ROBUST and they run on bananas. Old is good. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jun 26 06:23:48 2008, in response to ***Everyone here has the ability to Do heavy Math in their Heads...FAST.***, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Jun 25 23:09:51 2008. uh oh...the meds have kicked in. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Jun 26 08:24:57 2008, in response to ***Everyone here has the ability to Do heavy Math in their Heads...FAST.***, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Jun 25 23:09:51 2008. What kind of dull life do you live? And how does texting machines, iPods, and McDonalds make you a zombie? Dude, help should be on your way. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu Jun 26 08:34:27 2008, in response to ***Everyone here has the ability to Do heavy Math in their Heads...FAST.***, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Jun 25 23:09:51 2008. You need help!(iPod Touch & Sidekick LX Owner and eat at McDonalds...and what ) |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Jun 26 08:36:47 2008, in response to Re: ***Everyone here has the ability to Do heavy Math in their Heads...FAST.***, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu Jun 26 08:34:27 2008. Did you use both of them at the same time AND eat McDonalds at the same time? That would make K-car go crazy. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jun 26 08:45:50 2008, in response to Re: ***Everyone here has the ability to Do heavy Math in their Heads...FAST.***, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Jun 26 08:36:47 2008. Introducing the the Kcar repllent kit:1. Put on an I-pod. 2. Put your texting machine. 3. Go buy a banana. 4. Go eat it in Mc Donalds. Guaranteed to keep him away. That would make K-car go crazy. <<< He already is crazy. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Jun 26 08:52:15 2008, in response to Re: ***Everyone here has the ability to Do heavy Math in their Heads...FAST.***, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jun 26 08:45:50 2008. HA! Although I think theres something(s) missing from that list...And BTW, it will make him CRAZIER is what I meant. Crazy enough that he would collapse behind the computer, or something like that. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jun 26 08:58:20 2008, in response to Re: ***Everyone here has the ability to Do heavy Math in their Heads...FAST.***, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Jun 26 08:52:15 2008. The list has NO FRAME and may not be ROBUST enough. But that covers it. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 26 08:59:25 2008, in response to Re: Guess What may make a ''Comeback''? Congestion Pricing.., posted by Russ on Thu Jun 26 00:44:32 2008. Virtually no correlation between such an action and reelection given the time difference for the two. See Machiavelli for a detailed explanation.Plenty of politicians learn that they are not Machiavelli. Last night, a 9-term congressman from Utah was defeated in a GOP primary for being insufficiently conservative, although he had a 96% rating from the ACU, which is far higher than that of many colleagues. With Skelos announcing that Bloomberg has dedicated himself to preserving a GOP majority in the state senate, story here, don't expect Bloomberg to be making too many Democrat friends, and expect Assembly Democrats to treat Paterson's cooperation with Bloomberg's risen from the grave congestion pricing scheme as rather traitorous. If by some miracle it is the case that congestion pricing passes and is enacted, Governor Paterson's head will end up on the chopping block. If you think that people will forget why the percentage of their money owed to the state is higher than it was before Paterson took over the Governorship, then I think that would be a serious error. |
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