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PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Dec 26 23:46:49 2007

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Here are some photos that I just put onto my website, dating back to mid-August. Most of them were taken on my Cross Country Amtrak trip this summer.

Shelby, MT:





Portland, OR:









The Cascades train photos were taken the day before they were pulled from service. The last southbound from Portland to Eugene that afternoon had been cancelled with no replacement service offered. Luckily, my northbound train from Portland to Seattle ran as scheduled and actually arrived one minute early at Seattle King Street Station. The trains are now back in service.

Minot, ND:



Whitefish, MT:



Havre, MT:



Seattle, WA:







Ithaca, NY:



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Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains

Posted by trainsarefun on Wed Dec 26 23:54:23 2007, in response to PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Dec 26 23:46:49 2007.

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Nice.

Those are about the cleanest looking Amtrak locomotives I've yet seen.

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Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains

Posted by WillD on Thu Dec 27 00:13:55 2007, in response to PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Dec 26 23:46:49 2007.

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Excellent photos. Good to see there's a white face GP30-type (most likely a 645 equipped GP39E now) out there operating. Course I'm sad to see the Broad Street grade crossing looks like it's eliminated. I practically became a railfan because of the times we'd get stopped by BN freights grinding up out of the downtown tunnel or rolling down from Balmer Yard.

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Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains

Posted by Forest Glen on Thu Dec 27 00:55:09 2007, in response to PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Dec 26 23:46:49 2007.

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Nice

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Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains

Posted by R Pansepcc on Thu Dec 27 04:40:29 2007, in response to PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Dec 26 23:46:49 2007.

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Great pictures.

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Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains

Posted by kp5308 on Thu Dec 27 07:25:40 2007, in response to PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Dec 26 23:46:49 2007.

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Good stuff. Lookin' like a fun trip. I really like those Kodachrome skies near the end.

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Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains

Posted by kp5308 on Thu Dec 27 07:31:39 2007, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains, posted by trainsarefun on Wed Dec 26 23:54:23 2007.

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When Karen & I did the Arizona trip in October, I shot Amtrak at Holbrook & thought the same thing!


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Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains

Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Dec 27 08:19:23 2007, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains, posted by kp5308 on Thu Dec 27 07:31:39 2007.

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Yes!

I think we in the northeast only get the units that are blackened, blotchy, dented, and stained with soot....

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Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 27 11:49:45 2007, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains, posted by WillD on Thu Dec 27 00:13:55 2007.

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The Broad Street crossing in Seattle? I don't know of any plans to eliminate it, what makes you say that?

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Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 27 11:54:42 2007, in response to PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Dec 26 23:46:49 2007.

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Nice catches, there.

How full was the train in North Dakota, for the record?

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Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 27 12:14:36 2007, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 27 11:54:42 2007.

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Oversold from Minot to Whitefish. The lounge was closed and used for overflow seating between those points.

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Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains

Posted by WillD on Thu Dec 27 14:36:00 2007, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 27 12:14:36 2007.

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So much for the "nobody rides trains in low density areas" argument. At least until tommorow, when the anti-Amtrak folks will bring it up incorrectly yet again.

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Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 27 15:00:38 2007, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains, posted by WillD on Thu Dec 27 14:36:00 2007.

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Amen to that. How can over-100-percent "load factor" be argued with?

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Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 27 15:01:28 2007, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 27 12:14:36 2007.

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Impossible. Nobody rides Amtrak except old folks and people afraid to fly . . . right?

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Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains

Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Dec 27 15:06:44 2007, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 27 15:00:38 2007.

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How can over-100-percent "load factor" be argued with?

We will find out during the next appropriations cycle in Congress, rest assured.

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Photography Stupidity on the Left Coast too. (was:Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains)

Posted by WillD on Thu Dec 27 15:25:06 2007, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 27 11:49:45 2007.

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I thought part of the project to build the Olympic Sculpture Park included the elimination of the Broad Street crossing. I think I see now that they just put in a pedestrian overpass, but last time I was there in '05 they hadn't done any of that.

I found an interesting aside when looking at what they were doing at the southern end of Myrtle Edwards Park. The Olympic Sculpture Park turns out to have some fairly boneheaded people running it. The pieces in the park are generally either commissioned by the Seattle Art Musuem, or loaned or donated from various benefactors. According to the wikipedia article this has lead some to criticize the park as a dumping ground for charitable white elephants. However, in the case of Typewriter Eraser, Scale X, by Claes Oldenburg (the same guy who did the Penn Plaza Clothespin across from City Hall in Philly) and loaned to the musuem by Microsoft cofounder Paul Allen the musuem actually put up signs stating that photography was prohibited.

Now the musuem already has a "no touching" and "limited photography" policy ostensibly in the name of preservation. That begs the question of what exactly they're trying to preserve when they're exhibiting a 'sculpture' that consists of 100 foot long curving sections of rusting steel in an extremely wet environment right next to a saltwater bay, but I digress. Aside from that bit of stupidity, they actually put up signs telling people that photography of Mr. Allen's sculpture from on or off musuem property. Now, if Mr. Allen has his enormous sculpture in his backyard and I'm on the nearest public land with a view into his yard, I can legally shoot a picture of his gigantic typewriter eraser without a problem, just a big zoom lens. However, the Seattle Art Musuem actually tried to enforce their policy to the point of chasing people off the adjacent park land and threatening to confiscate their cameras. Thus, according to SAM it is legal for someone to shoot a picture of something on private property from public land, but not an object on public land from anywhere. A few angry comments from the local ACLU apparantly got them to back down and chalk it up to a "misinterpretation of the loan agreement". It certainly goes to show you that persecution of photographers is by no means limited to railfans, plane fans, or those who find beauty in the blatant functionality of an industrial complex. Admittedly the reason for their harassment was for an entirely different reason, but it was applied with the same level of illegality.

Also keep in mind these are the same geniuses who decided this white elephant dumping ground was a better use of waterfront property than the Waterfront Trolley. The Olympic Sculpture Park required the demolition of the Trolley's shop just north of Broad, and the line still hasn't reopened.

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Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 27 19:26:52 2007, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Misc. Amtrak and Freight Trains, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Dec 27 15:06:44 2007.

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IOW, they're gonna lie about it again and come up with the highly-fudged "average load factors" . . .

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