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MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Tue Dec 25 11:30:38 2007 Story |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 25 11:37:12 2007, in response to MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Tue Dec 25 11:30:38 2007. NYC Transit spokeswoman Deirdre Parker said the per-worker cost was approximately $738, and the total cost $2,583,245.I have no problem with issuing new uniforms to the employees - but $738 for a friggin uniform ?!?!?!?! Who manufactured them - the same company that designs $900 toilet seats for the air force? |
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Posted by MJF on Tue Dec 25 11:47:54 2007, in response to MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Tue Dec 25 11:30:38 2007. Ayup. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 25 11:50:52 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 25 11:37:12 2007. Thsat was the Air Force's fault, for insisting that a defense contractor manufacture the toilets. The contractor had advised the Air Force to go to Home Depot, but nobody listened. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 25 11:53:10 2007, in response to MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Tue Dec 25 11:30:38 2007. Better than asking the employees to foot the bill.When you join NYPD, you have to buy specific regulation pants, shirt, socks, shoes, jacket, etc. at your expense. Sure, the department might give you an allowance, but from what I hear, it doesn't cover everything. Some years ago NYPD changed from a powder-blue shirt (that Philly cops still wear) to dark blue. Back to the store you go... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 25 11:53:18 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 25 11:37:12 2007. You misunderstood. $738 per employee for his/her uniform supply. For $738, an employee might get (5)pairs or pants, (10)shirts, (1)tie, (3)hats, etc....I love the worker who "declined to give his name". Daily News is always good at establishing one thing-TA workers live in constant fear. TA workers should have a dress code, not uniform. Acceptable pants would be plain blue jeans or work pants(Dickies), solid colored shirts, and shoes. No logo baseball caps. The T/O shirts are horrible. They're the same ones Time Warner repairmen wear. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 25 11:54:56 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 25 11:53:18 2007. So wearing a Dallas Cowboys cap while driving a train on the Lexington Av subway would be unacceptable? 8-) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 25 11:55:43 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 25 11:53:18 2007. No, I like the uniform. Makes everthing look more professional. SEPTA's railroad uniforms look as bad as the service they provide. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Dec 25 11:58:19 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 25 11:37:12 2007. When BSM began public operation in 1970 our uniforms (copied from a 1936 BTC pattern) were $72.00 each (3-piece). In 1996, the last year the uniform company made custom uniforms to measurements, the cost was $315.00. A local tailor made one recently for a member, the cost was in the $500.00+ range.That was in Baltimore, I suspect uniform costs in New York are higher. |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Tue Dec 25 11:58:32 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 25 11:53:18 2007. Some of the T/O's I see have the blue shirts(light and no so light) |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 25 12:01:22 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 25 11:55:43 2007. LOL!KC bus drivers look pretty good in their uniforms. They work hard and are courteous and helpful. Of course it's easy to overlook that aspect when you have to wait an hour at the bus stop for the courteous and helpful driver to show up. |
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Posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:03:46 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 25 11:53:18 2007. The T/O shirts are horrible. They're the same ones Time Warner repairmen wear.Even worse, I see people going to overnight office cleaning jobs wearing the same shirt. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 25 12:05:32 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:03:46 2007. I've seen people playing Squad Leader and Panzer Leader over beer and pretzels wearing that shirt... |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 25 12:05:45 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Dec 25 11:58:19 2007. Also, don't forget the shoes...you measure the man by the shoes! :-) |
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Posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:06:21 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 25 12:05:45 2007. Also, don't forget the shoes...you measure the man by the shoes!Shoes not included, we pay for our own. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 25 12:08:37 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 25 11:37:12 2007. Don't forget the shoes, however...that will get you. A typical uniform would consist of a long sleeve shirt, a short sleeve shirt (or a turtle neck sweater for certain employees), a sweater, a vest, a jacket, slacks, shorts (for certain titles such as bus operator), socks, and shoes. $738 for all doesn't sound TOO bad.Also, I wonder how much of this was because of employees assimilated into MTA Bus. BTW, does the MTA do uniform deductions, or is it all on the MTA itself? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 25 12:09:17 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:06:21 2007. However, looking at other pieces of clothing that are MTA-spec, it doesn't seem like $738 is out of this world. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 25 12:12:42 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 25 12:08:37 2007. Subtract the shoes, but 2 or 3 sets of uniforms can add up...and I forgot uniform patches and hats (various for different titles). |
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Posted by MJF on Tue Dec 25 12:12:58 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 25 12:08:37 2007. The way I understood the article, this expense covered Station Agents only. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 25 12:13:17 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 25 11:50:52 2007. When has anyone in any government/military branch ever listened to anything sensible??? lol |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 25 12:15:54 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:03:46 2007. Well Z-Man.....since you operate a train SOOOOOOOO FRIGGIN' SLOW as you do....you might as well be a cleaner....cleaning the tracks!! SLOOOOOOW SLOW SLOW!! LMAO!! :-D (knows by experience!!) Just messin' wit' ya' Z!!! Happy holidays!! :-) |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 25 12:18:45 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 25 11:55:43 2007. You all should see the complete uniform St. Louis light rail operators have to wear!! I saw theirs while at the Rail Operations Rodeo in Miami in 2004....and if ever you wanna see someone from rail service who looks STRIKINGLY like an airliner captain!!! It was hilarious!! I bugged him by asking him flight departure questions!! lol |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 25 12:20:11 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by MJF on Tue Dec 25 12:12:58 2007. Oh, THOSE uniforms...the previous uniform wasn't good enough with just the standard blue tie and shirt? |
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Posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:29:14 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 25 12:15:54 2007. Just messin' wit' ya' Z!!! Happy holidays!!And a wonderful Christmas to you and your family too! Besides, nowadays I'm only slow on OPTO. When they put me on the G going to Continental, any crew on the R that is behind me better just light up a cigarette and wait. |
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Posted by MJF on Tue Dec 25 12:31:56 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 25 12:20:11 2007. Nah. Gotta be stylish. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 25 12:34:16 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:29:14 2007. Hey Z.......in due time there will be no more Continental for you on that G if the MTA has it's way!! (Which usually it always does!!) The boredom of Court Square and the "aromas" of Gowanus Canal will all that will be left to enjoy on the G!! lol |
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Posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:38:31 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 25 12:34:16 2007. Hey, Court Square OPTO is where I started! Nothing like looking at the weird brown slime at Broadway that just won't go away. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 25 12:48:04 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:03:46 2007. Man. Scary observation. Wish you didn't mention that. Does anyone recognize the TSS in the Daily News article? Don't post his name guys. Just curious to know if anyone recognizes him. |
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Posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:49:50 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 25 12:48:04 2007. Does anyone recognize the TSS in the Daily News article? Don't post his name guys.Dude, that's a clerk! Funny, they look almost like TSS's. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 25 12:50:40 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:49:50 2007. Except they don't have the Kiddie Badges the TSS's have!! lol |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 25 12:55:17 2007, in response to MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Tue Dec 25 11:30:38 2007. In Monterrey, Mexico, motormen and bus drivers where whatever they want to wear.The bus drivers hang a big rear view mirror and decorate it with family pictures or their girlfriends name painted in big letters. They also listen to the radio while driving. None of this is an issue. There is no labor relations. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 25 12:56:10 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 25 11:54:56 2007. They could let them wear Yankee Caps on the 4 and the D and Mets caps on the 7... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 25 12:56:26 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 25 12:55:17 2007. Do they still drive those converted school buses that belch black smoke evetywhere? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 25 12:56:43 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 25 12:56:10 2007. 8-) |
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Posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:57:49 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 25 12:55:17 2007. There is no such thing as uniforms when it comes to driving a chicken bus. |
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Posted by MJF on Tue Dec 25 12:58:09 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 25 12:56:10 2007. We kinda did that on the 7 during the 2000 World Series.Except I wore a Yankees cap. ;-) |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 25 12:58:36 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 25 12:55:17 2007. That sounds like the bus drivers who drive for Coach USA who cover NJ Transit city routes in Jersey City. Whenever I see one of their buses, the drivers are literally dressed in street clothes. I have only seen a handful of bus drivers in Jersey City actually wearing uniforms. |
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Posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:59:09 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by MJF on Tue Dec 25 12:58:09 2007. I would've spit on your windshield. Big time loogie too. Freakin' Yankee fan on the 7... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 25 13:01:22 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by MJF on Tue Dec 25 12:12:58 2007. Good point. Maybe the writer didn't even know. He just ate what TA put on his plate.So let's do the math. $2,500,00/$738 equals 3,387 employees. TA has far more than 3,387 uniformed employees. There are about 3,300 motormen alone. So it looks like they spend far more than $2.5 system-wide. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Dec 25 13:03:34 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 25 11:53:10 2007. At NJT Rail, we are issued a new uniform every year. That comprises of 1 blazer, 2 pair of pants (choice of winter or summer), 2 long sleve shirts and 2 short sleeve shirts, 2 ties (choice of clip-on or regular), 1 hat (choice of mesh top or regular), and 1 swetaer (choice of cardigan or pull-over). When we are first hired, we are issued 1 light overcoat and 1 heavier gore-tex overcoat. The only way we can get replacements for either is if we forego some of the items listed above. For example, if I want a gore-tex coat in 2008, I would have to give up the blazer. Or if I still wanted the blazer, I would have to give up the pants and shirts. It works out like that. Or, if I wanted everything without giving up anything, I would have to pay half (NJT pays the other half) for the overcoat. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 25 13:03:57 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:49:50 2007. Holy shit. Thanks for pointing that out to me. |
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Posted by MJF on Tue Dec 25 13:04:39 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:59:09 2007. I wasn't the only one. Come to think of it, weren't you a Yankee fan once, turncoat? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 25 13:07:13 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:57:49 2007. The buses were years behind what we have here. I took the 805 route. The bus felt like it didn't have shocks.But the subways were pretty nice. |
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Posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 13:07:51 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by MJF on Tue Dec 25 13:04:39 2007. I wasn't the only one. Come to think of it, weren't you a Yankee fan once, turncoat?I go back and forth. Generally, I root for the team that is doing worse. Last time I rooted for a baseball champion was when the Mets won in 86. |
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Posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 13:10:03 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 25 13:07:13 2007. Speaking of a lack of uniforms, I wonder why the bus & subway employees in Montréal don't have to wear uniforms. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 25 13:32:08 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Dec 25 13:03:34 2007. Here at Metro-North, it's a similar deal, but we get 4 pants, summer or winter weight, 6 shirts of our choice (short or long sleeve), one MNR logo uniform sweater every 2 years, jacket about every 2 yrs, heavy uniform colored heavy overcoat with reflective arm sleeve strips, ties (standard or clip-on), hat (summer mesh top or winter full top). Replacements are paid for (sadly), but exchanges are no charge, and pants, shirts, jackets are fitted to the person. Also you get issued title badges (Ass't Conductor or Conductor, the latter issued to you upon full Conductor qualification), MNR lapel pins, MNR tieclips and MNR belt buckle. We also get a $100 yearly shoe allowance. This is to adhere to Metro-North's requirement for 6-inch high ankle-protective boots. No low-top shoes are allowed anymore. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Dec 25 13:55:38 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:49:50 2007. Yeah, the new TSS and CSA uniforms are very similar. Especially with the ties and all.Now when I see a "uniformed" employee standing on the platform, I don't know who it is.... |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 25 14:36:07 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 25 12:18:45 2007. NYCT TSS' have uniforms too, a recent event. They look like a bunch of Maytag repairmen. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 25 14:37:38 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 25 14:36:07 2007. LOL. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 25 14:39:14 2007, in response to Re: MTA Spent $2.5 million on uniforms, posted by Zman179 on Tue Dec 25 12:49:50 2007. The clerk looks like a certain union activist. I'm not going to give his name, but my co-workers may recognise the initials: M.G. |
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