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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 29 19:02:11 2007, in response to WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by Joe V on Wed Aug 29 18:36:16 2007. Are these things GP38's (pardon my foamer ignorance)?
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Aug 29 19:12:56 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 29 19:02:11 2007. No those are GM-EMD SW1001 switcher locomotives. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 29 19:25:30 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 29 19:02:11 2007. No, those are MP15's.These are   That MP15 you posted at Jamaica did run with the GP38's in push pull mode though. The GP38's were the power, and the MP15's (or F Units) were used as cab cars, and for the lighting and heating on the old diesel trains. GP38's are not meant for passenger equipment, and the LIRR really had an unusual operation when they still ran. Here's an MP15 on one of the old trains at Greenport: 
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Aug 29 19:28:32 2007, in response to WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by Joe V on Wed Aug 29 18:36:16 2007. These pages (1, 2)should shed some light on the whereabouts of them. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 29 19:29:09 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 29 19:25:30 2007. Oops, sorry, that's an SW1001 at Jamaica, not an MP15, but they look somewhat similar, except for the grills on front, and some othe5r minor appearance differenences.Haha, they only ran in service on a passenger train a few times, such as here on this fantrip I went on in 1992 that ran Lower Montauk, and the line to Greenport: Greenport:  Betweeen Greenport and Southold:   Calverton: 
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 29 19:30:29 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 29 19:25:30 2007. Thanks for clearing that up. BTW, what were those old diesel coaches called? Any pictures of their interiors out there? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 29 19:32:30 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 29 19:29:09 2007. Now that's a fantrip! |
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Posted by R384149 on Wed Aug 29 20:26:44 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 29 19:30:29 2007. Those were P72s, many of them were actualy once MU cars, but once the railroad had over 700 M1 cars, the figured such a small fleet of different MU cars(kinda like the M3s today) wouldnt be practical, so they took out their controls, cab windows and headlights and ran them with the coaches. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 29 20:54:06 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 29 19:32:30 2007. Yes it was.....and most rode the outside in the gondola cars or open vestibules for the entire trip (except some bored wives and girlfriends, which rode the coaches, haha).And I still had my 80's heavy metal hair in 1992, so you can just imagine what that looked like after a trip outside at running speed from Jamaica to Greenport and back.....lol. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 29 20:57:43 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 29 19:29:09 2007. The gondola car rocks!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 29 20:59:52 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 29 19:30:29 2007. I have to look through my slides.... They were once electric MU cars that were demotored, and made into just regular coaches. They had M1-M3 style seats, which were probably added in the 70's, and they had sort of a red carpet on the walls. They were rolling disasters, but man where they the sh*t.....especially riding outside in low platform territory in the open vestibules. The closest thing you could get to the BU cars in modern times. I can't believe it's almost 10 years since they are gone....I can now know how the older guys must have felt when the gate cars were retired in 1969. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 29 21:03:01 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 29 20:54:06 2007. By the way, those were the normal running coaches at the time on the LIRR when this fantrip ran. Today it would seem that the whole train was a novelty, but there was nothing unusual about the coaches at that time....of course the trip "was" the cabooses and the open gondola cars. There were the two HAROLD protect engines #102 and 104, two cabooses, one on each end, two open gondola cars one on each end, two normal coaches, and the middle was a bar car. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 29 21:04:22 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 29 20:57:43 2007. They even put a bench down the middle of the gondola cars (two gondola cars of them, one on each end)...but no one sat the entire trip! It was THE most amazing fantrip I have ever been on. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 29 21:12:58 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 29 20:54:06 2007. Heh, I had the "hair" until 1993, when I decided to go all Pearl Jam with the short hair and goatee. Never got the latter to work properly (too damned itchy). |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 29 21:18:38 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 29 21:04:22 2007. I'd kill just to seem them have one with those old coaches. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Aug 30 03:03:30 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 29 21:04:22 2007. When was that fan trip? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 30 07:40:19 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Aug 30 03:03:30 2007. October 1991 or 1992. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Aug 30 08:48:56 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 29 20:59:52 2007. The 2900 series P-72's, including those cars on the fan trip, were never MU's. They were built as "steam cars" with steam heat and diesel generators. The heating system was converted to "Electric Heat" to run off those generators in the 1970's and the steam lines removed. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Aug 30 08:50:04 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Aug 29 19:28:32 2007. Thanks. Just look for a LLPX GP-38 and maybe that was one of them. They could be literally anywhere in the continent. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 30 09:21:17 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by Joe V on Thu Aug 30 08:48:56 2007. Weren't some of them old enough that they were pulled by steam engines? There were two types of coaches I remember, the ones with round windows in the doors, and the ones with square windows in the doors. I don't remember which these were, and I'm not that hard core that I remember the numbers, but I know one of the types were MU cars converted to coaches, and the others were cars that were once pulled by steam engines. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Aug 30 19:47:56 2007, in response to Re: WEHT the LIRR GP-38's ?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 30 09:21:17 2007. The 2900's were pulled by G-5's.Clones in MU service were 2501-2522 (control motors), 2601-2674 (blind motors), 2801-2844 (trailers), all with porthole windows. There were 222 car all told from 1955-56. Think of them as New Haven Washboards without the pantographs, rectifiers and stainless fluting. They were all Pullman Standard, from the Worcester plant and Westinghouse. The 30 1963 World's Fair cars (low roof, square windows) continued with 2525-2536 and 2675-2692. The NJT Comet I was built 7 years laster with similar bodies, but were aluminum. As MU's, they were mixed with double-deckers and all species of MP54's. All except 2801-2844 had to be renumbered into 2700 and 2800's when converted to push pull sicne they were decertified as locomotives. |
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