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THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 21:59:30 2007 Posts pics of redbirds.  
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Posted by FarRock on Wed May 2 22:02:29 2007, in response to THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 21:59:30 2007. 
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Wed May 2 22:09:28 2007, in response to THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 21:59:30 2007. Not exactly the best photo, but it's a start: 9308 and 9309 (and friends) were spotted next to each other at Corona Yard last weekend -- anyone know if they're still there? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed May 2 22:16:35 2007, in response to THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 21:59:30 2007. Unfortunately, I didn't start taking pics until a year ago, when the redbirds were already retired.Here's a few redbirds at 96th; it looks somewhat like a (2) train and you can't quite tell they're hauling signal dollies.   
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed May 2 22:19:29 2007, in response to THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 21:59:30 2007. Nice shots so far!I never realized how crappy the Redbirds actually looked in service though.. 
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Posted by R42 4787 on Wed May 2 22:25:45 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed May 2 22:19:29 2007. If you want to know how crappy some of the R36 WFs look now, here's 9586 back in November:
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Posted by R42 4787 on Wed May 2 22:32:40 2007, in response to THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 21:59:30 2007. Sampler:Front of R36 2000 Subway Car Southbound 7 local R33 WF 9308 (I have this car in my Thomas wooden collection R33 WF 9327, 82 Street, Jackson Heights R36 GE 9589 rosses over 50 Street |
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Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed May 2 22:33:00 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by R42 4787 on Wed May 2 22:25:45 2007. I remember that move. They were moving the R33ML Rail Adhesion Car #8885 at the time. I wonder when they'll be restored...or at leased touched up with some paint here and there. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Wed May 2 22:36:53 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed May 2 22:33:00 2007. I'd often say that these cars are in worse shape than the R36s underwater! At least they are serving some purpose in the ocean as reefs, while the other R36s are doing nothing but collecting rust. |
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Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed May 2 22:40:27 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by R42 4787 on Wed May 2 22:36:53 2007. Maybe those R36WF cars are under this litigation that New Jersey implimented a while back that keeps the MTA from restoring them. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Wed May 2 22:50:59 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed May 2 22:40:27 2007. Was that the case in which NJ (under Gov. DiFrancesco in 2001) stopped the NYCT from using the cars as reefs (over asbestos), only to accept the last 250 R36 WFs in 2003 under McGreevey? |
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Posted by CurAke79 on Wed May 2 22:52:13 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by R42 4787 on Wed May 2 22:32:40 2007. Great pics....I miss the Redbirds :-( |
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Posted by aem7ac on Wed May 2 23:02:07 2007, in response to THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 21:59:30 2007. Dude, I miss the Redbirds already. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 23:06:44 2007, in response to THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 21:59:30 2007. more photos:   |
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Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed May 2 23:09:58 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by R42 4787 on Wed May 2 22:50:59 2007. That's the one, if I'm not mistaken.To make a long story short, NJ's Department of Environmental Protection launced this 8-year program/study to see how the asbestos will affect sealife...despite the fact that lots of other studies concluded that asbestos does not harm if its underwater. So what does that mean for the rest of the redbirds rusting away? After some crews at Unionport Yard took the time to save redbirds of each class - hence, the Unionport Redbirds - the litigation was launched and the cars have been sitting there almost 5 years now. Maybe the R36 cars are part of that litigation too, because they've been sitting at Unionport since 2004, while occasionally moving the rail adheson car to and from Westchester Yard, and they've not been restored either. That may also go for the R36 ML cars 9542-43, which were briefly at the Transit Museum before being removed. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 23:11:05 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed May 2 23:09:58 2007. the litigation was launchedSo what exactly is that litigation about? |
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Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed May 2 23:23:15 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 23:11:05 2007. From what I know, not much is said about the litigation, but the then Governor of NJ DiFrancesco claimed the MTA kept disposing the Redbirds into the Atlantic knowing that the cars contained asbestos. Most of the stuff was kept between layers of epoxy that was kept within the walls inside the car bodies.So the litigation is, IIRC, that until NJDEP concludes its 8 year study, MTA can't dump more cars into the sea, and moreover, do amything much with the remaining Redbirds (Ex: no fan trips, no restorations, etc). Of course the cars sitting at Unionport can be moved around...but that would apply if they are doing something "work service-related". (Ex: moving work cars between yards). |
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Posted by chuchubob on Wed May 2 23:56:41 2007, in response to THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 21:59:30 2007.     
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed May 2 23:59:55 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed May 2 23:09:58 2007. Where are R36 ML 9542-43 located now? |
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Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Thu May 3 00:09:46 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed May 2 23:59:55 2007. Even though I said they were taken out of the Transit Museum, they are actually, last I heard (at least when I was at the museum last year), outside the museum, sitting on the BMT/IND side of the tunnel past the switches.Last I saw them, I remember seeing, in the interior where the car numbers are, near the Emergency Brake, was some piece of masking tape under the car number and written on it in red marker "Museum Car". |
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Thu May 3 00:24:48 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Thu May 3 00:09:46 2007. Lets just say that the ML pair is in safe hands. And this is not to be repeated....Please |
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Posted by R30A on Thu May 3 00:46:30 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed May 2 22:19:29 2007. Because these photos are of R36WFs.Any other fleet(including Pelhams 36WFs) looked MUCH better |
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Posted by SOUTH FERRY on Thu May 3 00:59:03 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Thu May 3 00:09:46 2007. Agreed. I remember that exact notation. "Museum Car" was written in black marker. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu May 3 01:15:44 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed May 2 23:09:58 2007. 
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu May 3 01:16:58 2007, in response to THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 21:59:30 2007.     |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu May 3 01:17:36 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by South Ferry on Thu May 3 01:16:58 2007.  
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu May 3 01:35:22 2007, in response to THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 21:59:30 2007. I sure miss those redbirds.        Enjoy!!! |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu May 3 01:41:02 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Thu May 3 00:09:46 2007. Cool, thank you! |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu May 3 01:43:08 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by South Ferry on Thu May 3 01:15:44 2007. Cool pic. Is that the R28 pair? |
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Posted by SOUTH FERRY on Thu May 3 01:44:40 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu May 3 01:43:08 2007. it's 7925 and her m8. |
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Posted by SOUTH FERRY on Thu May 3 01:46:17 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu May 3 01:35:22 2007. THANX for reminding about 9075.... still havent gotten out to see her! |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu May 3 01:48:26 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu May 3 01:35:22 2007. A few more:   
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu May 3 01:49:42 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu May 3 01:43:08 2007. Thanks. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu May 3 01:49:57 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by SOUTH FERRY on Thu May 3 01:44:40 2007. Thanks. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu May 3 01:50:41 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu May 3 01:49:42 2007. Never mind. Sent in error. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu May 3 06:07:51 2007, in response to THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 21:59:30 2007. Hokay.     I don't have any in revenue service cuz I don't have any in revenue service :P your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 3 06:24:32 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed May 2 23:23:15 2007. I don't get why the litigation would prevent them from doing things with the redbirds that aren't meant to be reefed. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 3 06:37:32 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Thu May 3 00:24:48 2007. LOL, you just said it publicly. Good going! |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu May 3 07:20:37 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by The Port of Authority on Wed May 2 22:09:28 2007. Of course. Probably not side-by-side like that, but they are non-revenue motors for Corona. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu May 3 07:23:15 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by South Ferry on Thu May 3 01:17:36 2007. That last one is a bit dark. |
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Posted by Mr RT on Thu May 3 07:59:04 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu May 3 01:35:22 2007. Gary's photo of 9713 in Met's color's has been on display in my office since 2003 ! |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu May 3 09:06:39 2007, in response to THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 21:59:30 2007. Here are some of my film shots. Most of them are on the 7, but I have a few from the other lines.                   
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Posted by Fulton Frank on Thu May 3 10:34:10 2007, in response to THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 21:59:30 2007. Question: there were cars other than the R33's and R36's painted that same color. Do we call them Redbirds too? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu May 3 10:46:40 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Fulton Frank on Thu May 3 10:34:10 2007. Yes they do, Incorrectly, but they do. They real name of the IRT redbirds is The Silver Fox. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 3 10:47:12 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Fulton Frank on Thu May 3 10:34:10 2007. Yes, I consider the redbirds to be R-26, -28, -29, -33, and -36. Unfortunately I arrived on the scene quite late an can probably count on one hand the number of R-26, 28, and 29 photos I was able to take. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 3 10:48:20 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu May 3 10:46:40 2007. No, it is not incorrect. If a subway car is red, what's incorrect about calling it a redbird? Answer: nothing. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu May 3 10:52:57 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Mr RT on Thu May 3 07:59:04 2007. Glad that I was able to get that pic of it when I did. I think it was the last time that car led in revenue service on the 7 Line. I'll check up on that. |
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Posted by R Pansepcc on Thu May 3 11:36:42 2007, in response to THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 2 21:59:30 2007. Great shots. thanks |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Thu May 3 12:45:05 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by R30A on Thu May 3 00:46:30 2007. Some R26/28/29s were really bad too. |
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Posted by SOUTH FERRY on Thu May 3 12:52:11 2007, in response to Re: THE REDBIRD PHOTO THREAD, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu May 3 07:23:15 2007. No shitzsu. Teh point was to emphasize the roof pattern. |
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