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Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos)

Posted by BIE on Sat Dec 9 21:18:18 2006

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The Central New York Chapter, NRHS recently received NYS Rys. Peter Witt type car #1036 as a donation. Here are photos taken during the delivery of the car to their museum at Central Square, NY on U.S. Route 11, 20 miles north of Syracuse.

Photos by Bob and Judy Townsend

Front of car at Central Square:
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Rear of car:
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En Route on U.S. Rt. 11:
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Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos)

Posted by Frank Hicks on Sat Dec 9 23:01:48 2006, in response to Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos), posted by BIE on Sat Dec 9 21:18:18 2006.

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Very interesting photos! I've never seen pictures of 1036 before. It looks like a good candidate for restoration (of whatever sort), to be sure. Is it going to be tarped? From the photos those window frames look a little iffy for a car destined to be stored outside.

It's certainly an attractive car - I believe this is the only really "standard" (to the extent possible) Kuhlman Peter Witt preserved out of the many cars that were built.*

Frank Hicks

*The two Detroit Witts preserved, though built to a design similar to the Kuhlman standard, had huge ungainly sign boxes and were built by SLCC anyway.

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Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos)

Posted by BIE on Sat Dec 9 23:50:30 2006, in response to Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos), posted by Frank Hicks on Sat Dec 9 23:01:48 2006.

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We have tarped the car. Plans are to build a pole supported roof over the car in the Spring. The window frames will receive attention at that time as well.

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Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos)

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Dec 10 07:00:58 2006, in response to Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos), posted by BIE on Sat Dec 9 21:18:18 2006.

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The front of your Peter Witt looks much like our B&QT Peter Witts preserved at Branford and TMNY. Breifly, what was the recent history of this car ?

Bill "Newkirk"

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Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos)

Posted by Evan on Sun Dec 10 12:06:00 2006, in response to Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos), posted by BIE on Sat Dec 9 21:18:18 2006.

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I don't see the pictures in this post. What am I missing?

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Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos)

Posted by BIE on Mon Dec 11 19:35:49 2006, in response to Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos), posted by Frank Hicks on Sat Dec 9 23:01:48 2006.

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Frank,
Where are those Detroit cars?

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Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 11 19:48:16 2006, in response to Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos), posted by Evan on Sun Dec 10 12:06:00 2006.

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They're on photobucket so it might be a cookie/java script issue ... links are still live though ... perhaps a right click and "view?"

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Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos)

Posted by BIE on Mon Dec 11 20:20:36 2006, in response to Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos), posted by Frank Hicks on Sat Dec 9 23:01:48 2006.

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Frank,
Where are those Detroit cars?

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Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos)

Posted by Frank Hicks on Mon Dec 11 23:53:23 2006, in response to Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos), posted by BIE on Mon Dec 11 20:20:36 2006.

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Where are those Detroit cars?

One, 3865, is at the Illinois Railway Museum on static display:


The other, 3876, is at the Ohio Railway Museum in dead storage.

(This image is from the early 1970's.)

Frank Hicks

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Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos)

Posted by BIE on Tue Dec 12 07:35:00 2006, in response to Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos), posted by Frank Hicks on Mon Dec 11 23:53:23 2006.

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Thank You, Frank.

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Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos)

Posted by BIE on Tue Dec 12 07:39:59 2006, in response to Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos), posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Dec 10 07:00:58 2006.

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The car was used as a camp on Oneida Lake until the '80s. Since then it was in the possession of the Plank Road Historical Society on North Syracuse, NY. On Dec.1,2006 it was delivered to the Central NY Chapter, NRHS at its Central Square museum.

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Re: Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos)

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Dec 12 14:59:49 2006, in response to Syracuse Trolley hits the road (Photos), posted by BIE on Sat Dec 9 21:18:18 2006.

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Here are some shots from the web of these Peter Witts in action:






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