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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 25 19:48:33 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W-Photo Evidence, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jul 25 18:53:18 2006. hahahahahahahhahhhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahwtf do you know about NYCT loading guidelines???? hahahahahahahahahaahha |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 28 04:35:32 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W-Photo Evidence, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 25 17:26:30 2006.  Photo taken at 34th street |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 28 07:15:28 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE D-Photo Evidence, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 28 04:35:32 2006. Or run it local. |
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Re: CANCEL THE 42nd St Shuttle -Photo Evidence |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Jul 28 07:19:43 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE 42nd St Shuttle -Photo Evidence, posted by BMTLines on Tue Jul 25 19:03:20 2006. Was this during the night? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 28 08:05:31 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE D-Photo Evidence, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 28 04:35:32 2006. It did run local today. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 09:00:55 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE 42nd St Shuttle -Photo Evidence, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Jul 28 07:19:43 2006. That's 4 track. That train only runs during rush hours. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 28 10:23:38 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE D-Photo Evidence, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 28 07:15:28 2006. It ran local today |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 10:26:55 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE D-Photo Evidence, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 28 10:23:38 2006. Yay!I boarded a D local at 103 on Sunday. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 10:27:44 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W-Photo Evidence, posted by David of Broadway on Tue Jul 25 19:34:55 2006. "Looks like a lot less than a 125% seated load to me."Still not empty. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 28 10:29:54 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W-Photo Evidence, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 10:27:44 2006. He said "quite empty" (which is 100% accurate), not "empty" or "totally empty." Your lack of reading comprehension shows again. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 28 10:31:33 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE D-Photo Evidence, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 10:26:55 2006. At 0330 i would think you would be asleep, so it should make no difference to you. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 10:32:22 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W-Photo Evidence, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 10:27:44 2006. Compared to NYCT loading guidelines it is. It doesn't meet the criterion of a crowded car as defined by NYCT. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 10:34:18 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE D-Photo Evidence, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 28 10:31:33 2006. I've been known to be awake at 0330. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 10:35:55 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE D-Photo Evidence, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 10:34:18 2006. That's what happens when you count subway cars instead of sheep. By the time you get to 100 in your consist, you're ready to fall asleep but then the T/O applies those squeaky brakes to the R32 and wakes you up.Next time try picking R68s... :0) |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 10:36:49 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE D-Photo Evidence, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 10:35:55 2006. And listen to the door chimes at each stop? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 10:39:43 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE D-Photo Evidence, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 28 10:36:49 2006. HA! 8-) Insomnia rules... |
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CANCEL THE SUBWAY |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Jul 28 10:40:13 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE 42nd St Shuttle -Photo Evidence, posted by BMTLines on Tue Jul 25 19:03:20 2006. No one ever uses it. We'll just string a teleport wire throughout the city.I'll be putting the teleport up for the D, W, 7, L, SIR, and 42nd Street shuttle, which have been cancelled so far. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 28 10:41:51 2006, in response to CANCEL THE SUBWAY, posted by Nilet on Fri Jul 28 10:40:13 2006. Oh good, will the one for the D be ready by noon, today? |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Jul 28 10:46:12 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE SUBWAY, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 28 10:41:51 2006. Actually, it'll be awhile. I've been contracted to rig up the teleport for Salvineth Streamline and Nilet Railroad. Then I'll do NYCT, but only if I don't get held up in US Customs. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Fri Jul 28 11:51:30 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE D-Photo Evidence, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 10:35:55 2006. but then the T/O applies those squeaky brakes to the R32 and wakes you up.Only if they're from Jamaica. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 28 12:00:49 2006, in response to Re: CANCEL THE D-Photo Evidence, posted by J trainloco on Fri Jul 28 11:51:30 2006. LOL! |
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Re: CANCEL THE W |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Sep 6 02:51:31 2010, in response to CANCEL THE W, posted by TheCanarsieConnection on Fri Jul 21 04:21:23 2006. Hey, your wish came true! |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Sep 6 02:58:45 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Jul 21 12:42:17 2006. To protect the switch.LOL I'm answering you four years later, now with Tower knowledge. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Sep 6 11:47:19 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Sep 6 02:58:45 2010. To protect the switch.But the R train wouldn't be going anywhere near the switch. And if it did, it would probably collide with the W train. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 6 11:58:04 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by TheCanarsieConnection on Sat Jul 22 03:16:57 2006. How about underground to the pier? |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Sep 6 12:18:52 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Sep 6 11:47:19 2010. The switch is right outside the station. In order for the tower to reverse the switch, at least two preceding automatic signals have to be red to prevent an approaching train from potentially striking the home signal, derailing, and/or colliding with another train.In the case of many interlockings, particularly in the IND, the approach signals in the station will clear slowly and allow the train to enter. This is built into the signal relays, and is not indicated by any wayside signs telling the T/O of this. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Sep 6 12:26:34 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Jul 21 14:01:31 2006. It's Juliet.ALL of our subway lines use the standard military/aviation phonetic alphabet used for radio communication, but a few, like the (J) and (Z) aren't used, and a few other lines have developed "alternate" names. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 6 12:43:12 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Sep 6 12:26:34 2010. Then why do they use names like (IINM), Nancy, Quincy and Zebra, as mentioned in Railman's post, which are not part of the "standard military aviation phonetic alphabet?"The correct names for N, Q and Z are November, Quebec and Zulu. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Sep 6 13:03:03 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 6 12:43:12 2010. What's the difference?We just go by what others have said on the radio. Part military, part TA jargon. Like November, Quincy, Zebra, Apple, Bravo, Charlie, Delta, Echo, Fox, George, Johnny, Larry, Mikey, Romeo. And the former Victor and Whiskey. It kind of started in the Gunn era when the new superintendants wanted a little more professionalism to the opearation because they objected to Dog and Boy for as the B/D jargon. I don't know if there is an official bulletin or notice out as to what the lines are to be called. |
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Posted by WillD on Mon Sep 6 14:33:00 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Sep 6 13:03:03 2010. The NATO Phonetic alphabet was created to largely eliminate the ambiguity which may exist when two words that sound roughly the same, like "George" or "Johnny", are repeated over a static filled radio link where the differentiating syllables may be dropped. Golf and Juliet are different enough that they can be deciphered even if part of the transmission is lost.That's not to say the phonetic alphabet is perfect. Zero and Sierra cause problems, but that can be remedied by simply using Oh for zero. Since NYCT doesn't have an Oscar train that greatly simplifies things. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Sep 6 14:58:45 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Sep 6 13:03:03 2010. I don't know if there is an official bulletin or notice out as to what the lines are to be called.No Notice or Bulletin as far back as I'm able to check, but the training manuals issued to operating employees have a page on military time and the military alphabet under the section Communication, Radio Rules, and Protocols. So while I don't think you can be written up for breaking a rule by using some other name, I suppose you could be reprimanded, or reminded of the right way. I can't imagine somebody being openly scolded for saying "Nancy" instead of "November", but if someone were to call themselves the "4:15 Nancy Ditmars" instead of the "1615 Nancy Ditmars", I can imagine Control getting upset. |
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Posted by rtype3995 on Mon Sep 6 15:20:25 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Sep 6 12:18:52 2010. G1,do u know if those wheel detectors @ lawrence st(both north and southboud) are operational? I have never seen them on..... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 6 16:24:33 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by WillD on Mon Sep 6 14:33:00 2010. Zero can also be called naught or null. That solves the problem of confusing Oh and Oscar. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 6 16:25:27 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Sep 6 14:58:45 2010. So that page calls it the military alphabet yet still calls Q Quincy? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 6 16:27:02 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Sep 6 13:03:03 2010. The difference is that it's not really the "military alphabet" if the letters have different names.Personally I believe the NATO phonetic alphabet should be taught in schools to kindergartners alongside the monosyllabic names of the letters, or even instead of them. Greek and Hebrew have polysyllabic names for their letters and they get along fine. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 6 16:29:33 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 6 16:27:02 2010. And while I'm talking about letter-naming policy, get rid of the name "Double-U." The letter should either be called "Whiskey" under a phonetic alphabet scheme or "wee" under a monosyllabic scheme, consistent with other letters like "bee," "see," "dee," "ee," "gee," "pee," "tee," and "vee." |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Sep 6 17:33:45 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by rtype3995 on Mon Sep 6 15:20:25 2010. Not for straight rail moves, only for reverse moves: train being turned in an emergency........work trains..........garbage train. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Sep 6 18:14:50 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 6 16:29:33 2010. Interestingly enough, in Spanish it's calle "Double-V." But "pee" and "wee" must go! |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Sep 6 18:18:49 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by rtype3995 on Mon Sep 6 15:20:25 2010. I didn't even know that there were wheel detectors there! I never had the pleasure (or displeasure) of working at DeKalb Master Tower. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Sep 6 18:57:29 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 6 16:25:27 2010. No. The military alphabet listed in the training materials has the same alphabet you'd expect to see the military or aviation use.Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliet Kilo Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whiskey X-ray Yankee Zulu |
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Posted by Fytton on Tue Sep 7 05:22:06 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Sep 6 18:14:50 2010. 'in Spanish it's calle "Double-V."'In French too - 'double-vay'. More logical (given the look of the letter) than double-U, actually. But then French calls y 'ee-Greque' (Greek i) ! 'But "pee" ... must go!' How squeamish can you get (8-) ! However, I was surprised to discover that the letter corresponding to p in the Greek alphabet - pi - is pronounced 'pee' by North Americans. Brits have always pronounced it 'pie', which in scientific conversation avoids confusion with the Roman p. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 7 11:56:54 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Fytton on Tue Sep 7 05:22:06 2010. I was surprised to discover that the letter corresponding to p in the Greek alphabet - pi - is pronounced 'pee' by North Americans. Brits have always pronounced it 'pie'I don't know a single American who pronounces it as you describe. The letter π has always been pronounced "pie" in the USA and Canada. |
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Posted by Fytton on Tue Sep 7 12:02:15 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 7 11:56:54 2010. 'I don't know a single American who pronounces it [pi] as you describe.'That's interesting - the man who I heard pronounce it 'pee', which surprised me greatly at the time, was a Canadian. He was also a scientist. Maybe he just had peculair ideas about pronunciation... |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 7 12:05:16 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Fytton on Tue Sep 7 12:02:15 2010. Perhaps he was somewhat sympathetic to or likely related to the Francophones, who would use that pronunciation? |
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Posted by rtype3995 on Tue Sep 7 13:19:44 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Sep 6 17:33:45 2010. Thanks bill!!G1, it doesn't seem bad(the dekalb tower).....lots of people by the board though...... |
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Posted by JohnL on Tue Sep 7 16:51:29 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Fytton on Tue Sep 7 12:02:15 2010. Maybe he was Greek (or of Greek origin). Modern Greek pronounces π “pee”. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Tue Sep 7 20:10:24 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 7 11:56:54 2010. "I don't know a single American who pronounces it as you describe. The letter π has always been pronounced "pie" in the USA and Canada."Agreed. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 8 06:15:01 2010, in response to Re: CANCEL THE W, posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Sep 6 02:51:31 2010. NO WAY! |
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