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Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 21 14:41:01 2006 At Rockaway Parkway station at about 11:45 AM today, I was about to board an L train when (on what I learned later is Track 10 in the yard), a train was speeding down the track (at at LEAST a good 15 mph), and I knew that there wasn't any good coming out of this. About 5 seconds later, I heard a loud bang (startling everyone in the station), and the first car of the train (8277) wound up running off the track, and was telescoped over the bumper block, with the T/O cab hanging over the entrance where buses pull into the station (missing a B6 which has JUST cleared and had entered the station).8277, despite what happened, looks only to have damage to the composite part of the blind end (which ended up slightly bumping that of 8278). Pictures will be shown of the end result tonight. The T/O was carried off on a stretcher, but he looked alert. The accident sounded worse than it actually was, although the sound of it could be heard from Rockaway and Flatlands (and the firehouse, which is just 400 feet away from the station). |
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Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 14:51:46 2006, in response to Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 21 14:41:01 2006. Shit, you actually saw it derail? I can't even imagine what that looked like...I saw the aftermath when I passed through at around 2PM...the R143 was about 6-7 feet off the ground up in the trees!!! Traffic was a nightmare with all the beese that use the little transit-center next to the station being detoured. I don't know how B42 transferees are being handled, but all beese except the 60 are stopping at Glenwood Road and Rockaway Pkwy in both directions. |
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T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by Amanda on Wed Jun 21 15:03:43 2006, in response to Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 21 14:41:01 2006. As per 1010 WINS:Subway Operator Suffers Seizure, 3 Injured NEW YORK -- A subway car slammed into a bumper block Wednesday after the train operator suffered a seizure, according to Transit Authority officials. This was a passenger train but it was not in service at the time of the accident in the CanarsieYard. The train jumped the tracks and went through a fence near Glenwood Road and Rockaway Parkway. Three workers were injured in the accident and taken to Brookdale Hospital. |
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T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by Amanda on Wed Jun 21 15:03:43 2006, in response to Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 21 14:41:01 2006. As per 1010 WINS:Subway Operator Suffers Seizure, 3 Injured NEW YORK -- A subway car slammed into a bumper block Wednesday after the train operator suffered a seizure, according to Transit Authority officials. This was a passenger train but it was not in service at the time of the accident in the CanarsieYard. The train jumped the tracks and went through a fence near Glenwood Road and Rockaway Parkway. Three workers were injured in the accident and taken to Brookdale Hospital. |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 21 15:07:38 2006, in response to T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by Amanda on Wed Jun 21 15:03:43 2006. Had to be something like that. No T/O who is conscious would have had his train going that fast (it was going at 10 mph at least faster than what it should have been).As for personnel at the station, they were taking pictures, not yet aware that one of their own had suffered the seizure you mentioned. No one is laughing now. |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 15:10:50 2006, in response to Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 21 15:07:38 2006. Hell, EVERYONE was taking pictures...both employeees and local residents, some with cell phone cameras, others with regular cameras (including me). |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 21 15:15:18 2006, in response to Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 15:10:50 2006. However, when I was there, the "boom" quieted everyone in the station, except for supervision who were running out of the tower.BTW, you asked about the B42. Right now, that detour is LEFT at Flatlands, RIGHT at 96, RIGHT at Glenwood, to Rockaway, and stand (likely in the B17 stop). If you ask me though, this train will likely be back in service in a few weeks (once the damaged blind end is fixed---assuming there wasn't also anticlimber damage). |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 15:23:40 2006, in response to Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 21 15:15:18 2006. I know where the B42 was going, I was just wondering how transfers between it and the L were being handled, particularly for people going from the B42 to the L. |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by mr_brian on Wed Jun 21 15:24:28 2006, in response to Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 15:23:40 2006. Are block transfers being handed out? |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 15:33:17 2006, in response to Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by mr_brian on Wed Jun 21 15:24:28 2006. I didn't see anyone coming out of the station looking for the B42 with a block transfer or anything, but I wasn't paying them that much attention. I didn't see anyone getting off the B42 headed towards the L because there were other buses in front of the unloading B42s from my line of sight. I didn't see anyone with a block ticket in their hand, but I didn't exactly scrutinize every person walking by. |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 21 15:40:36 2006, in response to T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by Amanda on Wed Jun 21 15:03:43 2006. Hope the T/O and all those who got injured are doing OK.Sorry to hear about this. |
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Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by sitechboy on Wed Jun 21 15:41:32 2006, in response to Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 21 14:41:01 2006. too soon for a CBTC joke? right?(I wouldnt say it if reports mentioned serious injuries)  |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by Allan on Wed Jun 21 16:07:55 2006, in response to Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 21 15:07:38 2006. What happened to the deadmans feature?It would be reasonable to assume that if the T/O had a seizure that his right hand would have come off the handle bringing the train to an emergency stop. |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jun 21 16:10:18 2006, in response to Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by Allan on Wed Jun 21 16:07:55 2006. And why wasn't the train tripped before it hit the bumper block? |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Jun 21 16:15:52 2006, in response to Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jun 21 16:10:18 2006. He must of had it on full power. |
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Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 21 16:16:44 2006, in response to Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by sitechboy on Wed Jun 21 15:41:32 2006. Thanks for the photo. |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by egis semaly on Wed Jun 21 16:17:53 2006, in response to Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jun 21 16:10:18 2006. Only stop arm (fixed) is located 13 feet from the block. Serves mainly to ensure train is not taking power when it hits the block; it will not prevent a speeding train from hitting the block. This has been demonstrated many times over. |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jun 21 16:18:56 2006, in response to Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by egis semaly on Wed Jun 21 16:17:53 2006. Thanks. This is by design, I take it? |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by egis semaly on Wed Jun 21 16:20:20 2006, in response to Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jun 21 16:18:56 2006. Yup. |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 21 16:29:11 2006, in response to Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 21 15:40:36 2006. Here, here. |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 21 16:29:57 2006, in response to Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by Allan on Wed Jun 21 16:07:55 2006. Who knows maybe his hand"locked" on to that Controller and he went forward it can happen.Scary Stuff one of a T/O's worst-case scenario's |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 21 16:31:08 2006, in response to Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 21 16:29:11 2006. Equipment can be fixed,fences can be put back up.Lives can be changed forever,that is not so easy to fix... |
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Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by ALP44 on Wed Jun 21 16:43:58 2006, in response to Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by sitechboy on Wed Jun 21 15:41:32 2006. I bet if that was a standard, they would have rerailed it and put it back in service with only minor paint scrapping damage.Until then..... ALP 44 |
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Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by The Maven on Wed Jun 21 16:47:02 2006, in response to Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by sitechboy on Wed Jun 21 15:41:32 2006. Train was in manual, so any CBTC joke would be null and void! |
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Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 21 17:22:06 2006, in response to Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by The Maven on Wed Jun 21 16:47:02 2006. Train was in manual, so any CBTC joke would be null and void!"Put me in manual? I can't allow you to do that, Dave." |
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Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Jun 21 17:39:19 2006, in response to Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 21 17:22:06 2006. He was in WSP, (Wayside Signal Protection) once you leave the main line it goes to it. So he was not limited to the 10mph that I have to use when coming out of the yard in RM(Restricted Manuak), if he was the Train would have slow him down.The yard will be down the road CBTC controled in yard mode, so after that the trains will be limited to 10mph and will be stoped before the train will every get to the block no mater what the T/O dose. The train will only get within 10ft of the block at 1mph or the train will domp. Robert |
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Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jun 21 19:11:19 2006, in response to Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by The Maven on Wed Jun 21 16:47:02 2006. Manual is not the opposite of CBTC.Properly equipped trains have been running in CBTC mode south of Broadway Junction and north of 3rd Avenue(?). They are still being operated manually. CBTC is not the same thing as ATO. Either one can exist without the other (although, in the NYCT context, ATO cannot currently exist without CBTC). |
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PHOTOS Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today (7 images, ~2MB) |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 20:50:33 2006, in response to Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 21 14:41:01 2006.       
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Re: PHOTOS Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today (7 images, ~2MB) |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Jun 21 20:53:51 2006, in response to PHOTOS Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today (7 images, ~2MB), posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 20:50:33 2006. Car #8277 was always being tested in Church avenue on the IND crosstown, Thanks for the pix! |
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Re: PHOTOS Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today (7 images, ~2MB) |
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Posted by tydev417 on Wed Jun 21 20:58:17 2006, in response to PHOTOS Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today (7 images, ~2MB), posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 20:50:33 2006. The R143s seem to be becoming crash test dummies in Canarsie Yard, hypothetically though because this was a very serious situation and I'm glad no one was killed. |
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PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 21:09:50 2006, in response to PHOTOS Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today (7 images, ~2MB), posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 20:50:33 2006.
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Re: PHOTOS Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today (7 images, ~2MB) |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jun 21 21:29:25 2006, in response to PHOTOS Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today (7 images, ~2MB), posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 20:50:33 2006. Wow. Good thing nobody was using the back entrance to the station at the time.Anybody know if it's still there? |
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Re: PHOTOS Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today (7 images, ~2MB) |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 22:08:38 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today (7 images, ~2MB), posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jun 21 21:29:25 2006. No, it was cleared away when I went through this evening at around 7ish. The fence seemed to be missing and replaced with orange barricade. |
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Re: PHOTOS Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today (7 images, ~2MB) |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jun 21 22:10:17 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today (7 images, ~2MB), posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 22:08:38 2006. OK, then I'm glad I didn't waste my time going out to Canarsie after work. |
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Re: PHOTOS Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today (7 images, ~2MB) |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Jun 21 22:11:03 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today (7 images, ~2MB), posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jun 21 21:29:25 2006. 'Good thing nobody was using the back entrance to the station at the time.Anybody know if it's still there?' the back entrance or the station? |
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Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 21 22:14:36 2006, in response to PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 21:09:50 2006. awesome, thanks |
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Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by FLASH GORDON on Wed Jun 21 22:16:06 2006, in response to PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 21:09:50 2006. Thanks good job.The DEAD END sign works well. FLASH GORDON |
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Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Jun 21 22:17:02 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by FLASH GORDON on Wed Jun 21 22:16:06 2006. Yea, the train came to a DEAD END |
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Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jun 21 22:18:16 2006, in response to PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 21:09:50 2006. In the last picture, is the Redbird A or B division? |
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Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Jun 21 22:19:07 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jun 21 22:18:16 2006. A |
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Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 21 22:20:07 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jun 21 22:18:16 2006. A division. 7770 and 7771 are schoolcars permanently now in Canarsie Yard. They are NOT operable, as there is fixed wiring running from the wall to the cars. |
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More Photos (Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 21 22:29:14 2006, in response to Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 21 14:41:01 2006.   The one in the station was taken just after it happened. |
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Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by BMTLines on Wed Jun 21 22:32:05 2006, in response to PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 21:09:50 2006. Looks like he was trying to run through to Canarsie Beach on the old ROW ;-) |
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Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jun 21 22:53:54 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by BMTLines on Wed Jun 21 22:32:05 2006. Did he set the signs to B42? |
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Re: More Photos (Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 21 22:55:52 2006, in response to More Photos (Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 21 22:29:14 2006. Thanks for posting them |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by Goumba Tony on Wed Jun 21 23:11:16 2006, in response to Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 21 16:29:57 2006. The R143s you can rest your arm on the side console, and its possible that by leaning his arm he could have kept the deadman from twisting. |
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Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 21 23:18:27 2006, in response to Re: T/O Had a Seizure (Was Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today), posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jun 21 16:10:18 2006. It probably got tripped JUST BEFORE the bumper block, which is why only that one car telescoped. (Yards are not under signal control, except for a fixed stop arm at the end of the track by the block.) |
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Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 23:35:31 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jun 21 22:53:54 2006. I saw a bus signed for "42 CANARSIE PIER" without the B yesterday. |
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Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jun 21 23:40:16 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jun 21 23:35:31 2006. Sure it wasn't signed "42 42 ST PIER"? |
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Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today |
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Posted by monorail on Thu Jun 22 01:37:22 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS - 56K Friendly Version Re: Accident in Canarsie Yard earlier today, posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jun 21 22:53:54 2006. 'Did he set the signs to B42? 'man, what a bommer! |
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