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[PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 18 09:49:54 2024 Fordham Road Station - #4 Woodlawn Jerome Line - December 1968
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Dec 18 10:13:19 2024, in response to [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 18 09:49:54 2024.* Nice pic from back in the day when we used to get snow in NYC in December.
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Wed Dec 18 10:50:46 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 18 10:13:19 2024.* Yep. Thinking the same thing
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Dec 18 11:33:38 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 18 10:13:19 2024.* As a kid growing up in Woodside, between December and March it was an exception to get rain during that span of time. Now getting snow during that time is the exception
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Orange Blossom Special* on Wed Dec 18 11:33:56 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 18 10:50:46 2024.* WHere I am, south of New York, most of the leaves just started changing color last week. I don't remember fall colors in mid-december. Took a fall leaf train trip like 6 or 8 weeks ago, no colors. Don't know if it's a pattern or a werid year. Every year they talk about bad colors because lack of rain, but mid-december is strange.
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Wed Dec 18 13:09:20 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 18 11:33:38 2024.* Yep
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Re: [PHOTO] Merry Christmas 2024
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Wed Dec 18 14:12:22 2024, in response to [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 18 09:49:54 2024.* Merry Christmas.
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Re: [PHOTO] Merry Christmas 2024
Posted by Jackson Park B Train* on Wed Dec 18 18:20:58 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Merry Christmas 2024, posted by chicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 18 14:12:22 2024.* All hail the unconquered Sun on 21 Dec! and best wishes to each of you whichever feast/holiday of choice.
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Wed Dec 18 18:38:18 2024, in response to [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 18 09:49:54 2024.* Looks like an R-17 up front.
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Wallyhorse* on Wed Dec 18 19:29:23 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 18 11:33:56 2024.* This was one of the warmest falls on record. Likely that's why.
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Wallyhorse* on Wed Dec 18 19:57:58 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 18 11:33:56 2024.* This was one of the warmest falls on record. Likely that's why.
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Catfish 44* on Wed Dec 18 21:38:09 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Dec 18 19:57:58 2024.* What about photosynthesis?
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Westcode44* on Thu Dec 19 22:50:33 2024, in response to [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 18 09:49:54 2024.* I remember when I had to go get that train (adjacent to 183rd) it was cold and "cut out" too. WE-44
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit* on Sat Dec 21 16:45:17 2024, in response to [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 18 09:49:54 2024.* Happy Holidays to you, Bill - nice hearing from you :)
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sun Dec 22 08:53:44 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit on Sat Dec 21 16:45:17 2024.* Thank you !
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sun Dec 22 08:53:48 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit on Sat Dec 21 16:45:17 2024.* Thank you !
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Posted by irtredbirdr33* on Sun Dec 22 16:25:20 2024, in response to [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 18 09:49:54 2024.* Bill: It's nice to hear from you. Mu favorite christmas picture was the one of the motorman standing next to a Steinway motor on the 3rd Avenue el in a snowstorm. All the best to you for the coming holidays. Larry, RedbirdR33
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sun Dec 22 18:35:06 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sun Dec 22 16:25:20 2024.* My favorite christmas picture was the one of the motorman standing next to a Steinway motor on the 3rd Avenue el in a snowstorm. 204th St station - Nov 1968
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sun Dec 22 18:35:28 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sun Dec 22 16:25:20 2024.* My favorite christmas picture was the one of the motorman standing next to a Steinway motor on the 3rd Avenue el in a snowstorm. 204th St station - Nov 1968
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Catfish 44* on Sun Dec 22 19:30:28 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Dec 22 18:35:06 2024.* That’s great. I wonder where that fellow was on the seniority list.
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Avid Reader* on Mon Dec 23 07:31:10 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Dec 22 19:30:28 2024.* How many "Dual Contract" elevated stations had Pot Belly stoves? The area above the fare control had showed where the smokestacks were but I can't find photos. The stoves were replaced with electric heaters. help!
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by irtredbirdr33* on Mon Dec 23 08:45:24 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Dec 22 18:35:06 2024.* Bill: Thank you for posting that. The el in the Bronx had its own charm. Larry, RedbirdR33
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Mon Dec 23 09:31:04 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Dec 22 19:30:28 2024.* That’s great. I wonder where that fellow was on the seniority list. Probably high on the list. The 3rd Ave line must have been a high seniority job much like the TSQ - GCT shuttle. That's my guess. Bill M
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Bill from Maspeth* on Mon Dec 23 09:46:47 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Dec 23 09:31:04 2024.* Yes. Like the G line. You don't see Manhattan, shorter train to deal with in case of BIE.
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth* on Mon Dec 23 09:49:51 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Dec 23 09:46:47 2024.* GCT shuttle: yes. No mainline. On time arrivals. You're not stuck on the train for hours if the railroad goes down the toilet, you finish work on time, no turning for an extra trip near the terminal.
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Re: [PHOTO] Merry Christmas 2024
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Mon Dec 23 13:49:10 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Merry Christmas 2024, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Dec 18 18:20:58 2024.* You too. I think.
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Mon Dec 23 17:59:07 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Dec 23 07:31:10 2024.* "How many "Dual Contract" elevated stations had Pot Belly stoves?" Probably none. I can safely say that there wasn't any on the Flushing or Astoria lines, both dual contract lines being used as examples.
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by randyo* on Tue Dec 24 03:44:14 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Dec 23 09:31:04 2024.* The IRT had a unique seniority setup. Sometime after the IRT took over the Manhattan els, crews were afraid that el crews would pick subway jobs in the winter forcing the subway crews onto the el. Then in the summer, the reverse would take place. As a result the IRT developed separate seniority rosters for the el and the subway. Unlike the subway, which had one seniority roster, each elevated line had its own seniority roster and if an employee wished to pick either from the el to the subway or the other way, he would have to go to the bottom of the seniority list of the line or division he was going to. Even if an employee wanted to pick from the 2nd Ave el to the 3rd Ave el, he would have to go to the bottom of the 3rd Ave seniority list. Most likely by the time the photo was taken, the M/M was probably one of the last remaining “el men.” I did know a M/M from the subway who picked a midnight run on the 3rd Ave el in the 1960s, but that would be because, as el men retired 3rd Ave runs opened up to crews from the Subway Division who wanted to pick there and they would go behind the remaining el men who still worked there.
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Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Tue Dec 24 09:32:45 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by randyo on Tue Dec 24 03:44:14 2024.* Thank you and happy holidays. Bill M
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Dec 24 13:23:26 2024, in response to [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 18 09:49:54 2024.*
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Dec 25 13:08:50 2024, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Happy Holidays 2024, posted by randyo on Tue Dec 24 03:44:14 2024.* Thats similar to what happened with the Penn Central merger. In the beginning, the NY Central, Pennsy and New Haven had their own rosters. Say a PRR man wanted to bid on an ex NH job, he'd go on to the bottom of the NH roster, while maintaining his seniority with the ex PRR lines. Of course there were equipment, signaling & territory qualifications to be dealt with which just added to the complications. They even had their own bars to hang out after hours. There were two on Lexington Ave, one for ex NH men across from 466 Lex and one for ex NYCRR (across from the Graybar) men. The bar in Penn Sta was (obviously) strictly for PRR & LIRR men Just exampleles of how the Penn Central merger was a merger from hell.
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