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W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by W.B. on Tue Nov 12 08:51:17 2024


November 12, 1935 - The Book of First and Last Runs

Manhattan, New York
Eighth and Ninth Avenues Railway Company
Eighth Avenue Coach Corporation

Buses replace streetcars on the Eighth Avenue-Central Park West and Ninth and Amsterdam Avenues lines. The aforementioned trolleys had been run by the Eighth and Ninth Avenues Railway which since June 1 had been owned by New York Railways. Horse-drawn streetcars had first run along Eighth Avenue in 1855, and Ninth Avenue in 1859. The replacement bus service will be provided by the Eighth Avenue Coach Corporation as Route Nos. 10 and 11, respectively.

As part of this bustitution, Central Park West throughout its entire stretch between 59th and 110th Streets is converted to two-way traffic. It had previously run one-way southbound.

(Sources: "Central Park West to Be 2-Way Route," The New York Times, February 14, 1935; "Bus Line Will Run Eighth Av. Trolleys," The New York Times, May 25, 1935; "Buses to Run Soon on 8th and 9th Avs.," The New York Times, October 5, 1935; "Eighth Av. Buses to Run on Tuesday," The New York Times, November 7, 1935; "8th Av. Buses Bring New Traffic Rules," The New York Times, November 12, 1935; "Last Trolley Cars Clang on Eighth Av.," The New York Times, November 13, 1935; "New York City Omnibus Corp." by Bernard Linder, Motor Coach Age, February 1969.)


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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by 3-9 on Wed Nov 13 05:36:42 2024, in response to W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by W.B. on Tue Nov 12 08:51:17 2024.

Were buses really that much cheaper to run than streetcars?

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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by W.B. on Thu Nov 14 01:07:44 2024, in response to Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by 3-9 on Wed Nov 13 05:36:42 2024.

Mayor La Guardia HATE, HATE, HATED streetcars, as well as els.

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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Nov 14 08:14:49 2024, in response to W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by W.B. on Tue Nov 12 08:51:17 2024.

Central Park West





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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by X-Astorian on Thu Nov 14 12:20:59 2024, in response to Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Nov 14 08:14:49 2024.

Nice images but the top one shows a great view of Columbus Circle with Central Park West just beginning at the corner with the Coca Cola sign.

The bottom photo is lower Broadway adjacent to City Hall looking north. The old Sun building is the first on the right at Chambers Street.

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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by W.B. on Thu Nov 14 16:49:15 2024, in response to Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Nov 14 08:14:49 2024.

That Columbus Circle pic . . . the building at right (beneath the Coca-Cola sign) was home to the bus station for the Baltimore & Ohio's train connection, travelling via CNJ ferries to Jersey City through 1958.

The building itself - 7 Central Park West - was also, from the mid-1950's to 1965, the home of 1010 WINS, from its Top 40 heyday (and the likes of Alan Freed holding court) to its early months of providing "all news, all the time." (By the time of the Nov. 9-10, 1965 blackout, though, they'd already moved everything to 90 Park Avenue.)

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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by W.B. on Thu Nov 14 16:49:47 2024, in response to Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by X-Astorian on Thu Nov 14 12:20:59 2024.

Thanks for advising on the bottom photo, I'd've thought it looked like around the Union Square area.

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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Nov 15 08:32:36 2024, in response to Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by W.B. on Thu Nov 14 16:49:47 2024.

My bad. Not the first time I was mistaken.

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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Nov 15 08:34:50 2024, in response to Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by W.B. on Thu Nov 14 16:49:15 2024.

GREAT background.

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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by X-Astorian on Fri Nov 15 11:48:54 2024, in response to Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Nov 15 08:32:36 2024.

My bad. Not the first time I was mistaken.

Maybe, but you do a great job digging up photos to accompany the past events. Keep it up.

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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by Q4 on Fri Nov 15 23:22:10 2024, in response to Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by X-Astorian on Fri Nov 15 11:48:54 2024.

IAWTP

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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanc Nov 12th QUIZ

Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Nov 27 19:44:02 2024, in response to Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Nov 14 08:14:49 2024.

Quiz

How many Street vendors are in the top photo?





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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 28 06:31:58 2024, in response to Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by W.B. on Thu Nov 14 01:07:44 2024.

That has been well-documented.

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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 28 06:34:20 2024, in response to Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Nov 14 08:14:49 2024.

That building just behind the statue of Columbus, with the water tank on ite roof, was still there in 2016. I was trying to replicate my grandfather's 1936 photo, complete with the Coca-Cola sign, 80 years later, and came pretty close.

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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 28 08:52:30 2024, in response to Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 28 06:34:20 2024.

And now it's gone

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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Nov 28 17:48:41 2024, in response to Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by W.B. on Thu Nov 14 01:07:44 2024.

I think he had it in for pinball machines too

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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Nov 30 14:21:15 2024, in response to Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by W.B. on Thu Nov 14 01:07:44 2024.

Kept a vigilant eye on the Tracks.

1946 Grand Central Trolley LaGuardia Elmhurst Queens New York.



Junction Blvd Trolley - leaving LaGuardia Airport



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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Nov 30 22:04:50 2024, in response to Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by Avid Reader on Sat Nov 30 14:21:15 2024.

That morphed into Triboro Coaches Q72 bus route.

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Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th

Posted by X-Astorian on Sat Nov 30 22:24:47 2024, in response to Re: W.B.'s Rail Almanac for November 12th, posted by Avid Reader on Sat Nov 30 14:21:15 2024.

The trolley never actually entered the airport. It it was forced to terminate on the 94th Street bridge just above the Grand Central Parkway. The bus seen in the background is the Triboro Coach Q33 which formerly served LaGuardia for decades.

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