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Tuscarora Almanac for November 5

Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Tue Nov 5 08:22:14 2024



Tuscarora Almanac for November 5


1888 – from the Books of First Runs and Wrecks

November 5 – The first section of the 5th Avenue El opens between Atlantic Avenue and the Fulton Ferry Terminal on the Old Main Line. The line runs north along Flatbush Avenue and Hudson Avenue. It joins the Old Main Line at Park Avenue.

November 6 – Service is discontinued to a collision between a 5th Avenue El and a Myrtle Avenue El train at the grade crossing of Hudson Avenue and Myrtle.

The line re-opens on June 21, 1889 with 5th Avenue trains re-routed onto the Myrtle Avenue Line going towards Jay Street.


1916 – from The Book of First Runs

The IRT Queensboro Line is extended from Hunters Point Avenue to Queensboro Plaza.


1946 – from The Book of Last Runs

This is the last day of service on the IRT Bergen Avenue Cutoff. The cutoff had been used by 2nd Avenue - Freeman Street Elevated trains until 1940 and then by the 3rd Avenue - Freeman Street trains. It allowed them to bypass the busy 149 Street Station.

Larry, RedbirdR3



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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5

Posted by zac on Tue Nov 5 10:19:02 2024, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for November 5, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Tue Nov 5 08:22:14 2024.

The Bergen cutoff lasted all of 30 years.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Nov 5 11:35:04 2024, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5, posted by zac on Tue Nov 5 10:19:02 2024.

Longer than the 2nd Ave El crossing the Queensboro bridge.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5

Posted by 3-9 on Wed Nov 6 03:45:36 2024, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Nov 5 11:35:04 2024.

Urgh. The wasted potential.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5

Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Nov 6 18:49:40 2024, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5, posted by zac on Tue Nov 5 10:19:02 2024.

Ridership on the Bergen Cutoff declined to the point where only five AM and five PM rush hour trains ran. Only 5-car trains, mostly Composites, were used.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5

Posted by randyo on Thu Nov 7 02:46:14 2024, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Nov 6 18:49:40 2024.

That was for 2nd Ave service. Weren't the 3rd Ave/Freeman trains 7 cars?

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5

Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Nov 10 16:34:14 2024, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5, posted by randyo on Thu Nov 7 02:46:14 2024.

Randy, I never saw a photo of 3rd Ave-Freeman St service, so I don't know. Anyone here know how many cars were used on the Bergen Cutoff by 3rd Ave trains, after Unification?

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5

Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 11 02:07:46 2024, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Nov 10 16:34:14 2024.

I worked with a few IRT old timers who actually started on the 2nd Ave El and from what I remember they said the 3rd Ave expresses ran 7 Composites.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5

Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Nov 11 15:05:49 2024, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5, posted by randyo on Mon Nov 11 02:07:46 2024.

Including 3rd Ave expresses via the Bergen Cutoff to/from Freeman St?

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5

Posted by randyo on Tue Nov 12 02:43:46 2024, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 5, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Nov 11 15:05:49 2024.

Well, the limiting factor for train lengths was the length of the platforms on the 2nd Ave el. 3rd Ave had longer platforms.

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