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Posted by cortelyounext on Sat Jul 27 15:07:24 2024 MTA... has worked with social media sites to prevent users from posting surfing content.The article states "surfing episodes" quadrupled from 2021 to 2022. Parenting? Education? Governance? Censorship? Too little, too much? Whatever methods have been used to address it, something, or something else, needs to be done in a hurry. Notionally, most are vulnerable adolescents, too easily influenced, too easily killed. Rockaway Accident I Meant Incident |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 27 15:52:40 2024, in response to Surfing, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Jul 27 15:07:24 2024. In the plus side, medical science continues to make great strides. This means that there is a greater need for organ donors.Let's go surfing now Everyone is learning how Come on let's safari with me. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 27 16:09:36 2024, in response to Surfing, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Jul 27 15:07:24 2024. Does it say anything abour Darwin Award winners? |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Sat Jul 27 16:42:40 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 27 16:09:36 2024. Negative. Since I have your ear I meant to write eye, I'll be in Lincoln early September for my alma mater CU-Boulder and the Huskers and I'll be in Minneapolis a week earlier for North Carolina and Minnesota to open the college football season. Ski-U-Mah! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 27 16:44:20 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 27 15:52:40 2024. Well now, everybody's heard about the bird . . . the bird is the word . . . |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 27 19:25:26 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Jul 27 16:42:40 2024. I'm a UConn alum with family ties to Notre Dame. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 27 21:58:28 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 27 16:44:20 2024. The Trashmen. A record so bad it was a hit! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 27 22:51:49 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 27 16:09:36 2024. Daewin rules would tend to disallow surfing as an permitted activity. |
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Posted by W.B. on Sun Jul 28 04:29:46 2024, in response to Surfing, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Jul 27 15:07:24 2024. "See, I don't go along with 'accidents', I think it's premeditated carelessness."- Brother Dave Gardner, 1961 And these "surfing" cases prove that salient point. My own studying of the infrastructure involved, the various dimensions and such, plus my own fear of death and dying and very careful nature, have certainly been a deterrent for me. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 28 07:32:09 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by W.B. on Sun Jul 28 04:29:46 2024. You neglect to mention common sense. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jul 28 09:36:23 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 27 19:25:26 2024. I'm a UCANT alum with family ties to Notre Dame.Irish Lacrosse!!! What is your thinking re. the seemingly stalled process of the B Line up to Boulder/Longmont? Is that thing ever going to get off the ground? Maybe it has I am not sure but one thing I am sure of is it has been and continues to be a slow slog. I do not know whether the Flatiron Flyer or whatever that thing is called, along with other bus routes, is sufficient enough public transportation to efficiently and effectively serve the area considering the growth of the towns between Denver and Boulder and out towards Broomfield never mind the rapid expansion of Longmont over the years. I know you guys have been paying taxes for what seems like forever and a day to fund the project. Am I right that the initial cost projections using BNSF trackage was woefully underestimated? As an aside, I used to walk up the hills from my home(s) over near Baseline and Broadway most weekends of my junior and senior years at CU up to Chautauqua and the Flatirons when I was not repelling down cliffs at Flagstaff Mountain. In all my years in Boulder I never once made it up to Rocky Mountain National Park, something I chide myself for not having done - I discovered fly fishing later on! I did, however, spend quite a bit of time up in Summit County near Breckenridge and Copper, so there's that. I do miss Colorado, the mountains and Boulder... at least the way it was. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jul 28 10:24:35 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jul 28 09:36:23 2024. Colorado has become a State of Mortal Sin, but that's another discussion for another time on another chat board.As to when the B line will ever be finished is anyone's guess. "Funding shortage" is the excuse being tossed around at this time. There is a planned stop almost right where I work, near the IBM plant on the Diagonal, but I'll be retired by the time it gets finished. Even the N line isn't built all the way out. It only goes as far as Eastlake-124th. The remaining 5.5 miles to 162nd Ave. will be built, "when funding becomes available." Kind of like the IRT Nostrand Ave. branch that was never extended past Flatbush Ave. We actually visited Rocky Mountain National Park while on vacation in 1970. Our last stops were Colorado Springs and Boulder before heading back east and home. We drove right by the Gates plane and my mother said, "See? There a rubber products plant here!" Little did we know that eight years later, my father would be working for Gates after taling early retirement from Uniroyal. |
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Posted by Dan on Sun Jul 28 14:51:57 2024, in response to Surfing, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Jul 27 15:07:24 2024. How many times do kids have to be told that riding on top of a moving subway train can be fatal? |
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Posted by W.B. on Sun Jul 28 16:07:29 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 28 07:32:09 2024. Oh, that's a given. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 28 17:27:02 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by W.B. on Sun Jul 28 16:07:29 2024. Not to the surfers! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 28 18:14:16 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 27 22:51:49 2024. Darwin rules exclude just about all train deaths because of how common they are. |
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Posted by W.B. on Sun Jul 28 19:17:59 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Dan on Sun Jul 28 14:51:57 2024. If based on the statistics, not enough, evidently . . . |
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Posted by W.B. on Sun Jul 28 19:18:15 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 28 17:27:02 2024. No, but certainly to me . . . |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 28 22:23:15 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by W.B. on Sun Jul 28 19:18:15 2024. I'm pleased that in 30 years, I never had to respond to a surfer incident. |
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Posted by W.B. on Mon Jul 29 03:28:14 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 28 22:23:15 2024. Lucky, that's all I'll have to say. I personally shake my head in disbelief and disgust when hearing of such cases. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 29 09:29:15 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by W.B. on Mon Jul 29 03:28:14 2024. I actually have to retract that statement. As a road car inspector, my first (12-9) was actually a 16 year old riding the roof of a #1 train who didn't fair too well when the train went underground. He did not fall off of the train, however. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 1 06:20:18 2024, in response to Surfing, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Jul 27 15:07:24 2024. Interesting tale..While on that Fox a few Picks ago we get a call from OCC that a bunch of kids was surfing on the train, i make the stop at Ave N CR opens doors the kids who was surfing a customer pointed them out they run off the train (We aren't chasing anyone). One of the Kids as hes running down the stairs looks at me deadazz laughs gives me the Finger.. Whatever they off the train ran down stairs we call it in it keep it moving that's when i said to myself "enough of this chit switching for me next pick". Start of the Summer Pick.. Kids surfing on the F Train (With this particular GO the F was going Express from Ditmas to Kings Highway so yeah the train was moving)one of them falls off they was on top of the last car actually hits the rail head cracks open like a egg his brains are on McDonald ave yep dead as a door nail... It was Same Kid who laughed at me and gave me the Finger the Pick Before... He didn't learn his lesson until it killed him. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 1 08:19:44 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 1 06:20:18 2024. Oh well! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 1 09:51:41 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 1 06:20:18 2024. Good! |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Aug 1 09:56:03 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 1 06:20:18 2024. That story is sick. I hear you and your brethren talking about 12-9s traumatizing you for the rest of your life. Back during the pandemic I posted an excellent documentary from the New Yorker discussing this and it served to validate the emotional pain and psychological scarring of the crew, especially the T/O.I'll be honest in that I had, even have to a degree, trouble with some of the posts on this board that hate on the deceased. I cannot separate it in the sense I do not see it as a mutually exclusive event in so far as the statement I made; that is, many read the majority of these adolescents are immature, easily influenced and vulnerable to peer pressure, and do not think beyond the here and now. It is a life thrown away and for what? A few clicks on some platform? It is not an excuse for but the reality of the behavior. I know none of that makes a difference or make things any easier for the T/O. With that, I want to go on record and emphatically state I am not, nor have I ever been, a T/O so I cannot relate to the unimaginable pain and suffering the 12-9'er has to work through. It's just that the 12-9'ee does not have the opportunity to work through anything anymore. The whole thing is sad. Here is a short article from a few months ago that addresses the subject: Here |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Thu Aug 1 14:11:33 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 1 06:20:18 2024. Damn! One of the creepiest stories I've ever heard.--Mark |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Aug 1 14:23:23 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 27 15:52:40 2024. "Everybody's gone surfing, surfing DOA!!!". |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Aug 2 05:46:09 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Thu Aug 1 14:11:33 2024. It is kinda creepy I wouldn’t even say karama because the kid didn’t wrong me..He wronged himself… |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Aug 2 05:46:38 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 1 09:51:41 2024. Sometimes lessons these days can cost one their life… |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Aug 2 05:47:31 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Aug 1 09:56:03 2024. Yeah it’s not a easy thing to have on one’s mind..I still remember mine like yesterday but I keep it in perspective … |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Aug 2 05:48:43 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 1 08:19:44 2024. Basically his choice cost him his life.. Oh and his friends who was with him got off at kings highway and told the cops there who was actually waiting for them because someone called it in… |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 2 09:44:09 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Railman718 on Fri Aug 2 05:48:43 2024. I know that it's different if you are operating than if, as in my case , just responding to a 12-9. The first time sickened me because the kid was crushed. But after that, I learned to depersonalize the situation. I was there for the train - not the victim. The only exceptions to that were the 2 "space cases" I responded to - both at Bway-Laffayette. They are gut wrenching to actually watch a person pass. |
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Posted by jailhousedoc on Fri Aug 2 13:42:03 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 2 09:44:09 2024. Once while working in an Emergency epartment in a hospital in East Harlem I saw a patient who was brought in by ambulance after having both legs mangled when he jumped onto the Lexington Ave. train tracks while trying to flee from the police ( I don't recall what he did to cause the police to chase him ). He was admitted to the surgical intensive care unit under police guard - the staff physicians and nurses just went into automatic mode and did what had to be done for him with regard to his care. In contrast, when a baby was brought in in cardiac arrest there was a palpable sense of urgency among the staff to help the child out as best as possible. You do what you have to do but there are cases when it can do something to you and it stays with you. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 2 14:17:38 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Railman718 on Fri Aug 2 05:46:38 2024. Life's a tough teacher. First comes the test, the comes the lesson. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 2 14:22:03 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 2 09:44:09 2024. I was/am able to desensitize myself from all the shit I saw. Business as usual. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 2 15:10:17 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by jailhousedoc on Fri Aug 2 13:42:03 2024. Yes, I have 4 medical professionals in my family. 1 in Cardiac intensive care and one in pediatric intensive care. Amazing how they deal with what they deal with. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 2 15:11:39 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 2 14:22:03 2024. You have to detach or after a short time you will be useless to the job. |
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Posted by jailhousedoc on Sat Aug 3 19:09:49 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 2 15:10:17 2024. Occasionally, when something really bad happens, they will need to speak to a counselor - I would hope that the MTA provides for counselors to those who have to respond to a 12-9 situation, or something like when the female token booth clerk was set on fire by a thief - no one can even comprehend the horror of that situation. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 4 07:42:15 2024, in response to Re: Surfing, posted by jailhousedoc on Sat Aug 3 19:09:49 2024. Such counseling was never offered but truth be told, I never requested it. I was always able to seperate my feelings from the crushed, the burned or the severed parts. I was there for the train and managed to keep focus most times. |
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