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Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 14 18:05:29 2022, in response to Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time, posted by William A. Padron on Wed Dec 14 17:35:44 2022. Four different routes sharing on the BMT 4th Avenue Line would cause more delays at around the 36th Street interlocking area.Meh....this isn't really an argument as this was done regularly up till 2010. |
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Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Dec 14 18:19:06 2022, in response to Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 14 17:45:59 2022. There was a thread on this elsewhere a few years ago. |
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Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Dec 14 18:29:56 2022, in response to Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time, posted by William A. Padron on Wed Dec 14 17:35:44 2022. Do not forget about the Williamsburg Bridge, which is now to subject to more weekend closures in the future, based upon the plans of NYC DOT. Besides, the trains over the Willy B do have to go at a slower pace on that ancient structure.Wasn't the EL structure rebuilt 20 years ago? --Mark |
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Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Wed Dec 14 20:12:28 2022, in response to Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Dec 14 16:29:53 2022. As mentioned before, you are reading WAY too much into these so-called ‘proposals’.Did you ever stop to think about how this would affect the general public, who ride the subway everyday? At all? Ever? Not everything is a personal vendetta from the politicians, who don’t use public transportation on a daily basis. You need to separate fantasy from reality. |
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Re: J line extension to Bay Ridge after Second Avenue subway opens? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 14 20:52:10 2022, in response to Re: J line extension to Bay Ridge after Second Avenue subway opens?, posted by Dan on Wed Dec 14 17:31:46 2022. Prior to putting the M on the West End the line was useful and patronized. Towards the end the diamond R was just one half of the M line running from Metropolitan Ave. |
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Re: J line extension to Bay Ridge after Second Avenue subway opens? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 14 20:53:12 2022, in response to Re: J line extension to Bay Ridge after Second Avenue subway opens?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 14 17:09:47 2022. I last saw them in April 1987. Last official run was in June. |
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Re: J line extension to Bay Ridge after Second Avenue subway opens? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Dec 14 21:55:45 2022, in response to Re: J line extension to Bay Ridge after Second Avenue subway opens?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 14 11:09:15 2022. And I was one of the motormen who dragged them to death.Getting a beat up, graffiti scarred R27/30 for a trip during that era was like operating a cadillac. |
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Re: J line extension to Bay Ridge after Second Avenue subway opens? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 14 22:03:16 2022, in response to Re: J line extension to Bay Ridge after Second Avenue subway opens?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 14 18:00:28 2022. Didn't even know it. |
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Re: J line extension to Bay Ridge after Second Avenue subway opens? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 14 22:07:46 2022, in response to Re: J line extension to Bay Ridge after Second Avenue subway opens?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 14 18:00:28 2022. I remember this switch. |
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Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 14 23:59:56 2022, in response to Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Dec 14 18:29:56 2022. I believe that the speed of trains over the Willy B is governed by the grade timers rather than the age of the structure. |
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Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Dec 15 01:55:36 2022, in response to Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Dec 14 18:29:56 2022. Yes.The truss and girders were replaced along with the roadway. Honestly speaking,the city took a crappie way out by "rebuilding the bridge in place",rather than replacing the bridge itself. The new bridge would have increased capacity for cars and trains alike. March station would have been replaced with a new three track, double platform station over the bus terminal. The amount of time it took to repair the old bridge, a brand new bridge could have been built. The same thing applies to the Manhattan Bridge. The MTA knows that these bridge crossings are the " What If" dreaded situation. This could be solved by building new East River crossings... One 4 track tube replacement for the Manhattan Bridge, and a new crossing in Williamsburg to Houston st and Essex st. All bridge crossings would be eliminated. |
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Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Dec 15 02:11:39 2022, in response to Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time, posted by William A. Padron on Wed Dec 14 05:57:25 2022. Cool.Thought this was a :transit board",where cultural exchange and experience was encouraged. Discussion. Meaning a certain amount of Respect is given,even if You don't àgree. Wally is a pretty decent dude,and while some of his ideas are out there,he still hasn't done much to earn admonishment. |
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Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Dec 15 07:43:00 2022, in response to Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time, posted by Edwards! on Thu Dec 15 01:55:36 2022. me diggin riding trains over bridges. |
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Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time |
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Posted by jailhousedoc on Thu Dec 15 17:50:44 2022, in response to Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time, posted by Edwards! on Thu Dec 15 01:55:36 2022. The Manhattan and Williamsburg bridges are old and need lots of TLC if not outright replacement. If the 911 terrorists took those hijacked planes to those two bridges instead of the WTC towers, the havoc caused might have been much worse. Yet, the politicians don't want to spend the money for this - nd I am willing to bet that some terrorist would jump at the chance to destroy either one or both of them. When it comes to security and being proactive, certain steps must be taken. |
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Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time |
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Posted by zac on Thu Dec 15 20:55:32 2022, in response to Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 14 23:59:56 2022. The timers are there BECAUSE of the need for the speed restriction due to the structure.A pet peeve I have is when they announce "we are being delayed by red signals ahead of us". The signals aren't the delay unless they've malfunctioned, they are only the messenger. |
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Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Dec 16 09:33:55 2022, in response to Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time, posted by zac on Thu Dec 15 20:55:32 2022. The problem with the announcements bing made is that the suits in the TA want an announcement to be made as soon as the train stops instead of having the C/R wait a minute or two by which time the train will probably be moving. The undesired effect of having the announcements made for relatively normal momentary stoppages amounts to a “boy who cried wolf” situation in that if a time arose when there was a announcement made regarding a genuine dangerous situation, the passengers will merely tune it out thinking it’s just another “red signal" message. |
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Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Dec 19 01:45:32 2022, in response to Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time, posted by ntrainride on Thu Dec 15 07:43:00 2022. ABSOLUTELY DIG IT! |
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Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Dec 19 10:31:45 2022, in response to Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time, posted by ntrainride on Thu Dec 15 07:43:00 2022. Absolutely.I can honestly say that this is a sight that few cities embrace. However, nostalgic feelings won't help the Commuter trying to get from point A to B. The city,and state,working together, will need to come together sooner or later to deal with whether they can replace both bridges, and the rapid transit traffic operating over them. We need to have them replaced ASAP with new infrastructure,preventing disaster. |
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Posted by jailhousedoc on Mon Dec 19 11:39:38 2022, in response to Re: (Originally posted 2016) Moving the R to Nassau/making the W full-time, posted by Edwards! on Mon Dec 19 10:31:45 2022. I totally agree - if the terrorists who flew those hijacked planes into the WTC took out the Manhattan and Williamsburg bridges instead, this city would be in a total mess. The politicians need to see that those bridges are a juicy target for anyone with an agenda, so spending the money to protect the people is the proper thing. That should be done before their hand gets forced. The Hudson river tunnels need replacement - spend the money already ! |
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