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WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 24 22:52:27 2022 
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Posted by gbs on Sat Sep 24 23:34:30 2022, in response to WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 24 22:52:27 2022. I'm pretty sure it's a D-type (triplex). Some give-aways: the handhold in the upper left, the shape of the roof, the seating. Compare with this photo from 1964: 
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 24 23:38:39 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by gbs on Sat Sep 24 23:34:30 2022. GOOD SHOT |
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Posted by gbs on Sat Sep 24 23:46:10 2022, in response to WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 24 22:52:27 2022. Nope, I think it's a Standard. What confused me was the handhold, which I thought was unique to the Triplex, but here are two Standards, one with "straps" and one with those handholds like in the OP's photo:   Now the big give-away is the window behind the musician. |
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Posted by gbs on Sat Sep 24 23:47:11 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 24 23:38:39 2022. See my later post, where I corrected my first guess. It's a Standard. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Sep 24 23:56:24 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by gbs on Sat Sep 24 23:47:11 2022. I thought that looked more like a BMT standard. The narrow storm door was a clue. |
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Posted by The Silence on Sun Sep 25 00:34:08 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by gbs on Sat Sep 24 23:46:10 2022. Was also going to say the other give away was the gap between the transverse seats. Too narrow to be a D type. |
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Posted by zac on Sun Sep 25 10:11:21 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by gbs on Sat Sep 24 23:46:10 2022. I don't remember standards with straps. Also note the covers on the light bulbs. Is this a prototype upgrade? Or an original before they messed with them? |
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Posted by gbs on Sun Sep 25 12:38:00 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by zac on Sun Sep 25 10:11:21 2022. I noticed those light covers too, but I don't know enough about the history to explain these differences. Here are several more Standards with straps and no light covers (none were identified by car number or year):      This may be a prototype, Car #2001, dated 1915, with no handholds at all, no fans, and solid storm-door window:  
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Posted by Q65A on Sun Sep 25 17:16:06 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by gbs on Sun Sep 25 12:38:00 2022. Interesting photos; they show how the BRT management was trying to arrive at a suitable lighting design for their new cars. It is interesting to note that the Standards ran from 1915 to 1969 (albeit in increasingly diminished numbers). This makes the 57-year run of the R32s from 1964 to 2021 even more impressive. |
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Posted by treman119 on Sun Sep 25 17:23:49 2022, in response to WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 24 22:52:27 2022. Great picture! |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Sep 25 17:32:14 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by treman119 on Sun Sep 25 17:23:49 2022. DONALD BYRD IS A GREAT JAZZ MUSICIAN |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 25 20:16:59 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by Q65A on Sun Sep 25 17:16:06 2022. The average BMT standard put in 47 years. The museum trio served for 52 - and they were never rebuilt. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Sun Sep 25 22:17:38 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Sep 25 17:32:14 2022. He certainly is. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Sep 25 22:22:16 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by Express Rider on Sun Sep 25 22:17:38 2022. GOT MOST OF HIS EARLY BLUE NOTE RECORDINGSIN RUDY VAN GELDERS STUDIO |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Sep 26 02:56:30 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by treman119 on Sun Sep 25 17:23:49 2022. AbsolutelyHe was a musical genius. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Sep 26 04:07:52 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by zac on Sun Sep 25 10:11:21 2022. The first BMT steels did have covers (lampshades?) over the bulbs bu subsequent orders did not have them and they were removed from the cars that did have them. Not sure why but it was probably a maintenance issue. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 26 12:39:36 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by gbs on Sun Sep 25 12:38:00 2022. Were those vertical, rattan partitions ever deployed to provide additional seating?I noticed they are missing in some photos.
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Sep 26 12:52:04 2022, in response to WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 24 22:52:27 2022. THANKS GUYSLEARNED A LOT ON THIS THREAD ! |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Sep 26 14:56:18 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 26 12:39:36 2022. Were those vertical, rattan partitions ever deployed to provide additional seating?AKA "drop seats". I believe they were used in the beginning, but larger crowds of passengers probably necessitated not using them and opening the doors behind them that were closed. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Sep 26 14:58:08 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Sep 26 12:52:04 2022. THANKS GUYSLEARNED A LOT ON THIS THREAD ! Donald Byrd chose my favorite subway car of all time. I have to give him props. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 27 08:27:20 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 26 12:39:36 2022. They also abandoned the light fixtures for bare bulbs pretty quickly. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Sep 27 12:35:17 2022, in response to Re: WHAT SUBWAY CAR IS THIS ?? PHOTO, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 26 12:39:36 2022. Thanks for the information about the original accessories that proved less than necessary.I'm guessing the drop seats could have been okay for a "Rock Park" or "Far Rock" midtown direct service utilizing Rockaway Branch of the abandoned LIRR but........ Those lamp shades most likely dimmed the light some what anyway. |
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