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Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by GojiMet86 on Wed Jan 19 00:11:20 2022

https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2022/01/18/talgos-wisconsin-trains-find-home-in-nigeria/


Talgo’s Wisconsin Trains Find Home In… Nigeria​
Intended for high-speed Midwest line, they'll be used on metro line in Lagos.​
By Jeramey Jannene - Jan 18th, 2022 07:01 am​



After more than a decade and a twisted legal saga, Talgo has found a buyer for its trainsets originally built for a high-speed rail line between Chicago, Milwaukee, Madison and the Twin Cities.​

The Spanish train manufacturer will sell the two Milwaukee-made trains to the Nigerian government.​

In 2010, Governor-elect Scott Walker refused a $823 million federal grant to build the high-speed Hiawatha extension, but the state was still on the hook to pay for the trainsets ordered by Governor Jim Doyle. Rather than invest in a maintenance facility to put them into use on the existing line, Walker and the Republican-controlled Wisconsin Legislature had the state default on the contract.​

Wisconsin ultimately settled with Talgo, a move that cost the state $59 million and allowed the manufacturer to maintain ownership of the equipment.​

Talgo’s USA CEO Antonio Perez told Urban Milwaukee in 2019 that he was seeking to sell the trainsets to Oregon and Washington or a coalition of Gulf Coast states. But those deals never came to fruition, nor did a rumored lease to a California agency or to Michigan. Amtrak, meanwhile, ordered new equipment that is expected to enter service in phases starting in 2024.​

But Talgo didn’t give up. In addition to its international business, it has landed two major rehabilitation contracts in the United States. It is restoring subway and commuter rail equipment from California at its Milwaukee plant in Century City.​

Now it’s selling the trainsets to a new Nigerian rail line serving the Lagos metro area. The 23-mile, 11-station line is the first in a city of 27 million.​

The Governor of Lagos State, Babajide Sanwo-Olu, will join Perez and Acting Mayor Cavalier Johnson in Milwaukee on Tuesday.​

According to a press release, the new line is expected to open in late 2022 with a capacity of 500,000 passengers per day. The Hiawatha Service between Milwaukee and Chicago, with seven daily roundtrips, has never served more than 883,000 passengers in an entire year.​

The two Series 8 trainsets Talgo will sell are 14-car trainsets with capacity for up to 420 seated passengers. It is unclear how the trainsets will be modified for use in Nigeria.​

Talgo made two additional Series 8 trainsets in Milwaukee for use on the Amtrak Cascades Service between Oregon, Washington and Vancouver, CA. Those trainsets remain in service.​




CBS58 of Milwaukee is saying the sets will be used on the Red Line, which makes sense. Per the Wikipedia page, the Red line is going to share tracks with the Lagos–Kano mainline railway.

These are maps of the system under construction:





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Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by GojiMet86 on Wed Jan 19 00:22:37 2022, in response to Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria, posted by GojiMet86 on Wed Jan 19 00:11:20 2022.

Here is a press release by Wisconsin Public Radio, saying it is indeed the Red Line.

https://www.wpr.org/sites/default/files/lagospressrelease.pdf



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Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jan 19 00:44:55 2022, in response to Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria, posted by GojiMet86 on Wed Jan 19 00:22:37 2022.

Congratulations on finding a mark. Too bad Scott Walker couldn't be part of the deal as in permanent exile. I'm sure he could be trained to be a coach cleaner.

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Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 19 06:20:34 2022, in response to Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jan 19 00:44:55 2022.

As long as he is disallowed from joining a union.

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Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 19 06:20:58 2022, in response to Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jan 19 00:44:55 2022.

Dumb comment.

If things were right in this country, the private sector could have made a go of this. But the railroads were always a target of the left in the USA.

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Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 19 07:32:57 2022, in response to Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria, posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 19 06:20:34 2022.

Why; do you think he'd rise to be its president?

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Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 19 08:14:45 2022, in response to Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 19 07:32:57 2022.

He went on a campaign to bust civil service labor unions.

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Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 19 08:15:34 2022, in response to Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 19 06:20:58 2022.

Private sector won't touch it with a 10' poll, and save us your lecture on regulations.

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Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by Allan on Wed Jan 19 13:33:54 2022, in response to Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria, posted by GojiMet86 on Wed Jan 19 00:11:20 2022.

"Walker and the Republican-controlled Wisconsin Legislature had the state default on the contract.​"

Well that just dropped the credit rating of Wisconsin closer to the toilet.


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Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 20 09:49:20 2022, in response to Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria, posted by Allan on Wed Jan 19 13:33:54 2022.

Gobbledegook. How come Tony Evers didn't reverse any of that? Never bothered to, did he.

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Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 20 12:26:16 2022, in response to Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria, posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 19 08:14:45 2022.

Is that true, or was it to purge leftists from their leadership?

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Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jan 20 20:48:13 2022, in response to Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 20 09:49:20 2022.

Yeah, because your man Scott hated railroads so much he trashed all the deals. And it takes a lot of political capital to raise that kind of money.

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Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by Joe V on Thu Jan 20 20:51:24 2022, in response to Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria, posted by 3-9 on Thu Jan 20 20:48:13 2022.

And had to pay financial penalties to do it.

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Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 20 21:53:03 2022, in response to Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria, posted by 3-9 on Thu Jan 20 20:48:13 2022.

The Kochsucker

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Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 21 05:22:23 2022, in response to Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria, posted by 3-9 on Thu Jan 20 20:48:13 2022.

Rubbish. As Usurper Brandon proved last year, there’s nothing your predecessor did that you can’t reverse.

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Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by Joe V on Fri Jan 21 06:50:44 2022, in response to Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 21 05:22:23 2022.

Wisconsin Republican legislature doesn't want it. Amtrak's Connect US is 100% dependent on state support, or it amounts to nothing.

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Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jan 21 08:55:08 2022, in response to Re: Wisconsin Talgo trainsets sold to Lagos, Nigeria, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 21 05:22:23 2022.

Reversing a policy is not the same as trying to raise almost $900m that 49 other states also want.

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