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Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Jul 3 17:35:22 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 3 16:00:30 2020. no/pitkin-n- elderts lane. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jul 3 19:04:33 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by K. Trout on Fri Jul 3 01:30:00 2020. The through routing of Pitkin may not have been so much to provide for a subway to Queens as it was to provide a logical through street between Bkln and Queens. Looking at some of the old maps, it did seem a bit silly to have Pitkin stop at the Bkln/Qns border and have Old South Rd start at the same border a short half block north. With no houses in the area at the time it probably didn’t ruffle many feathers to run a street through vacant property especially if it was done at the time of the depression when people who probably couldn’t afford to build on their properties were only too glad to get condemnation money from the city. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jul 3 19:08:42 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by K. Trout on Fri Jul 3 01:37:18 2020. Are you sure of the date? The map close up shows the proposed stations for the IND subway as actually built and that info would not have been available back in 1921. |
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Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jul 3 19:12:48 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jul 3 07:57:19 2020. The planned track map as reproduced from the ERA Bulletin is the final configuration with the subway continuing straight down Pitkin instead of down Conduit as the old map seems to indicate. |
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Re: Possible Major Evidence of Tunnel To 76TH STREET! |
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Posted by VictorM on Fri Jul 3 19:24:18 2020, in response to Possible Major Evidence of Tunnel To 76TH STREET!, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jul 3 09:10:00 2020. This map shows the current portal at Glenmore Av and Forbell St (not Pitkin and Forbell). Thanks for posting. |
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Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jul 3 19:25:22 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jul 3 07:32:07 2020. The differences in the construction of 174 St Yd has nothing to do with who constructed it since the Board of Ed would have built it to the specs provided to it by the B of T. |
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Re: Possible Major Evidence of Tunnel To 76TH STREET! |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jul 3 20:03:32 2020, in response to Re: Possible Major Evidence of Tunnel To 76TH STREET!, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 3 16:51:59 2020. Several of the proposals for the IND reclaiming of the Liberty Av el structure would have called for the rebuilding of the Fulton St el between Crescent and Grant. |
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Re: Possible Major Evidence of Tunnel To 76TH STREET! |
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Posted by VictorM on Fri Jul 3 20:10:54 2020, in response to Re: Possible Major Evidence of Tunnel To 76TH STREET!, posted by VictorM on Fri Jul 3 19:24:18 2020. In checking the block numbers (4240 and 4242) on the map it appears it does show Pitkin Av, with the portal displaced one long block south at Forbell and Pitkin. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jul 3 20:13:47 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 3 14:49:18 2020. Different street entirely. Old South Rd is north of Pitkin. Belmont is south of Pitkin. |
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Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jul 3 20:34:17 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jul 3 07:57:19 2020. For some of you who continue to post that when the subway could not be continued down Pitkin, the city changed plans and decided to connect to the Fulton St el, that was NEVER the case. The connection to the Fulton St el and the subway down Pitkin were supposed to coexist. Te phots of the Euclid Av model board bear this out. Also one of the contract books of the area which was available at one time clearly indicates that east (RR south) of 80/Hudson St existing bMT signaling was to be used meaning that originally there were no plans for what we now know as Liberty Jct. The subway along Pitkin was supposed to continue as that planned track map shows and connect to the LIRR ROW via a portal in the approximate vicinity of Aqueduct. It was only after construction past 76 St (?) was halted for whatever reason that plans were altered to provide the connection to the LIRR ROW S/O Rock Blvd and construct Liberty Jct. According to a B of T report on new subway lines from 1950, the plans were changed sometime between 1948 when Euclid opened and 1950 when that report came out. That report did however also include plans for building the connection from the Qns Blvd Line N/O 63 Dr (Whitepot Jct) to the LIRR ROW with some sort of a junction just S/O Liberty Jct. |
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Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 04:40:51 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by randyo on Fri Jul 3 20:34:17 2020. Bookmarked. I geek out for this stuff. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 04:52:31 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jul 3 07:57:19 2020. Oh man. A Lefferts to 207 is really a great run built for speed. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 4 09:09:42 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jul 3 07:32:07 2020. Oh God this shit is on reddit 😬 |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 4 09:29:29 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by randyo on Fri Jul 3 19:12:48 2020. Wasn't there were also a provision to run the Fulton Street/Jamaica Avenue el into the IND at ENY ? |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Jul 4 09:34:11 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 4 09:29:29 2020. NO |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jul 4 10:43:14 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 4 09:09:42 2020. Oh God this shit is on reddit 😬The 76th St topic just may be the ultimate urban myth. Some will say it isn't a myth. The controversy rolls on ! Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 4 11:10:04 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Jul 3 11:12:55 2020. LOL! |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 4 11:16:18 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Jul 3 11:12:55 2020. Pity they're all dead and left no records behind. :( |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 4 13:02:51 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Jul 3 17:35:22 2020. OK, thanks! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 4 13:33:48 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jul 3 07:32:07 2020. The tunnel near PS 173 in Manhattan was built to connect the future IND Washington Heights Line's 168th St station and the George Washington Bridge. Most likely, it was built by the Board of Ed because no contract for that IND section had been finalized. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Sat Jul 4 13:37:37 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by randyo on Fri Jul 3 19:08:42 2020. Make sure to move the transparency slider at the bottom all the way to 100 - the NYPL website displays it overlaid on a modern street map. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 4 16:30:35 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 4 09:29:29 2020. I think he meant the unused provisions at Jamaica & Pennsylvania Aves. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Jul 4 17:25:51 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 4 09:29:29 2020. There have been rumors but I never saw any official documentation to that effect. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Jul 4 17:36:39 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Jul 3 11:12:55 2020. I thought that the M/M who took the pump train in took it past where the current concrete wall is under Pitkin Av. According to some of the old timers who I spoke to and had knowledge of the station shell, prior to the construction of Grant Ave station, there was only a wooden barricade at the end of track and the concrete wall only went up at that time which would be circa 1956. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Jul 4 17:41:08 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 4 13:33:48 2020. It was built by the Board of Ed because it didn’t want either the schoolyard dug up or the school building itself underpinned by subway construction which would have come after the school was up and running. The problem was solved by having the contractors who were building the school piggybacking the subway construction onto the rest of the work. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Jul 4 22:01:28 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 4 16:30:35 2020. THAT WAS FOR A JAMAICA AVE SUBWAY.EITHER TO GO UNDER THE JAMAICA EL[STOOPID] OR TO TAKE IT OVER AT CRESENT STREET. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Jul 4 22:03:44 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by randyo on Sat Jul 4 17:36:39 2020. NO TRACKS WERE LAID PAST ELDERTS LANE,PERIOD.HE TOOK IT PAST GRANT-N- THE CONDUIT. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 4 22:05:00 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jul 4 10:43:14 2020. For me, its pics or GTFO. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 22:15:51 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Jul 4 22:03:44 2020. Of course not. They had to preserve The Mafia Graveyard. LOL! |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 5 00:07:41 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Jul 4 22:03:44 2020. So are you saying the the yard leads went farther than the mainline tks? |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Jul 5 09:15:40 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by randyo on Sun Jul 5 00:07:41 2020. yup. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Jul 5 09:17:06 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 4 22:05:00 2020. ok,now show me pics of lirr mp41`s at chambers st. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 5 11:10:40 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Jul 5 09:17:06 2020. Which brings to mind, could a BRT el car MU with an IRT Hi-V (which is an MP41) ? |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Jul 5 11:37:58 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 5 11:10:40 2020. according to joe cunningham the 1200,1300-n-1400 series were designed to mu with mp41`s. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 5 12:12:44 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Jul 5 11:37:58 2020. Does Branford have both a 1300 and a Hi-V ? |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 5 16:25:42 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Jul 4 22:01:28 2020. i knew that-I knew that-I KNEW THAT! |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Jul 5 18:02:35 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 5 12:12:44 2020. yes and no |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 5 18:26:56 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Jul 5 09:15:40 2020. The reason I had though that the S/.B lcl tk S/O Euclid went past the wall is because the wall across the infrastructure zigzags at tk A1 making tk A1 short enough that a full 600 ft train cannot be stored there. I haven’e been able to find any explanation as the why the wall was built that way instead of straight across. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 5 18:40:01 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 5 11:10:40 2020. Just because the Gibbs Hi-Vs and LIRR MP41s were almost identical in appearance doesn’t mean that they were in any way similar in electrical or mechanical details. The Hi-Vs were GE equipped with a 12 point manual acceleration controller whereas the MP41s were WH equipped with a 3 point automatic acceleration controller very similar to the BRT el cars. I have no info as th whether the MP41s were Hi-V or Lo-V but I do know that the BRT el cars were Lo-V. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Jul 5 21:05:49 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by randyo on Sun Jul 5 18:26:56 2020. nobody has been has been able to figure that one out. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Jul 5 21:42:30 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by randyo on Sun Jul 5 18:40:01 2020. mp41`s were high-v then converted to low v |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 5 22:54:30 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 4 09:29:29 2020. The Fulton st SubwayHas provisions for local services along Jamaica Avenue,either joining the Elevated at Cypress Hills or strait to Jamaica. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 5 22:56:19 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 4 09:29:29 2020. The Fulton st SubwayHas provisions for local services along Jamaica Avenue,either joining the Elevated at Cypress Hills or strait to Jamaica. Mayor Hylan proposed a similar route,along with Mr Turner. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 5 23:23:10 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Jul 5 21:42:30 2020. I might have suspected that. It wouldn’t surprise me if the BRT gate cars had been Hi-V originally but then changed to Lo-V as the state of the art for propulsion equipment evolved. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 5 23:26:17 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 5 22:54:30 2020. Which by the way enforces the argument I have been making for years about the BMT Eastern that towards Jamaica is properly railroad SOUTH. If the IND Fulton St Line had been connected to the Jamaica El structure at some point it would have been SOUTHBOUND IND trains that would have operated on it! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 00:30:58 2020, in response to Re: Possible Major Evidence of Tunnel To 76TH STREET!, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jul 3 14:35:50 2020. That’s what they said about Al Capone’s vault. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Mon Jul 6 06:39:12 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by randyo on Sun Jul 5 23:23:10 2020. I have saved a post - somewhere - from Jeff H. where he wrote it's a misconception that Hi-Voltage operation came before Lo-Voltage operation - apparently they were both developing around the same time. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Mon Jul 6 06:45:13 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Jul 5 21:42:30 2020. Also, I would think that if the BRT gate cars had originally been Hi-V, then the BMT old timers would have been aware of this and spoken about it, re: the fleet's daily opeations, mechanics, safety, etc.Although, at the same time various car groups in the Manhattan el fleet (assuming this includes those made MUDC), were Hi-V's, according to the ERA master roster of Manhattan el cars. I don't reemmber whether some or all of these were ever converted to Lo-V. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Mon Jul 6 06:55:41 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Jul 5 18:02:35 2020. Branford is the only musueum to have the remaining preserved gate cars from BRT-BMT fleet correct?It's late and I don't have their roster of el cars readily available to look over - 1227 is the only car I can remember right now. 1300s - they were the cars you see mostly in photos of the 5th ave. el right? And they had the unusual shaped roof ventilation? Steve, thanks in advance for your answers. - Ed |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Jul 6 08:57:03 2020, in response to Re: 1938 NYC BOT document showing original plan for 76th Street as Elderts Lane, posted by Express Rider on Mon Jul 6 06:55:41 2020. those cars were built by the stephenson car company.1349 is also at branford,its being worked on.afaik we are the only musuem with gate cars.not home right now so I can`t answer about the 5th ave EL series.lets everyone out there join in a ROUSING CHORUS of "happy birthday to tunnelrat"i,m 76 today. |
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