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Posted by Dave on Sun Sep 22 16:08:39 2019 My version of it! |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Sep 22 18:57:23 2019, in response to Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 22 16:08:39 2019. Lookks good enough!ROAR |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 22 19:08:17 2019, in response to Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 22 16:08:39 2019. Are you going to have the spur that once ran out to the Bay ? |
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Posted by Alan Follett on Sun Sep 22 19:44:07 2019, in response to Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 22 16:08:39 2019. How easy is it to find HO-scale oysters?Alan Follett South San Francisco’s Francisco, CA |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sun Sep 22 19:52:00 2019, in response to Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 22 16:08:39 2019. AHA!!! Fooled me for a sec- I thought the MTA was doing it. Well, it looks good for early construction, I'd say. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Sep 22 22:28:13 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 22 19:08:17 2019. Joe, do you know the history?Going back to the 1890's and as late as the early 1950's, there were plans to build a bridge across the Sound. Various locations were proposed and IIRC, the last was between OB and Rye. Due to cost and political infighting, the project finally died. My railroad - the "Long Island Sound Connecting RR" is similar in concept to the Terminal RR Association of St. Louis - TRRA - a switching and terminal railroad that handles traffic in the St. Louis area. When formed in 1889 it was owned by six railroads. My LISC connects Long Island with Connecticut and is jointly owned by the LIRR/PRR and New Haven. Terminals are in Oyster Bay and...an unmodeled terminal in CT. I will be modeling Greenwich, CT, serving several industries. An elevated station (not like the El in NYC but raised above local streets, like the NH did in Bridgeport) will be modeled but not connected to the rest of the layout. It will be used to display passenger trains and motive power. LISC doesn't own any of its own equipment (yet) so freights between LI and CT will be operated by the LIRR and the NH. LIRR passenger equipment will make regular showings in OB...after all, it is a commuter railroad! I'm also modeling a station at Locust Valley. The occasional fantrip will send LIRR passenger equipment across the Sound to CT, and NH fantrips will traverse southward across the water. Operation will be with NCE DCC. I have a number of sound equipped NH diesels; one LIRR sound equipped RS-3; and will be getting a sound-equipped FM H16-44 due out in a few months (I hope!). I also have several NH non-sound equipped but decoder-equipped engines. My favorite is an A-A set of NH FA-1's in orange. One is sound equipped and the other is not. They look like this although this is an A-B-A lashup: I also own a number of New York Central DC engines but I doubt I'll convert them to DCC. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Sep 22 22:29:02 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by MainR3664 on Sun Sep 22 19:52:00 2019. Thanks! It's VERY early in the construction phase. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 23 07:05:55 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 22 22:28:13 2019. There was once a car float at Oyster Bay, and they sent a LIRR wooden coach over to Connecticut and back. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Sep 23 22:02:55 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 23 07:05:55 2019. Never knew that! I'll do some research...thanks, Joe! |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Sep 23 22:05:27 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 23 22:02:55 2019. And here it is, on Wikipedia:"One of the reasons for building to Oyster Bay was to create a connection to New England. A large pier, now owned by the Flowers Oyster Company, was built to facilitate the loading of passenger cars onto a ferry, specifically to the Danbury and Norwalk Railroad station and ferry pier in Wilson's Point section of Norwalk, Connecticut. Service lasted only a few years as overland service from New York to Boston, once thought impossible, commenced." VERY interesting! |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Sep 24 06:59:14 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 23 22:05:27 2019. It was built as a back up facility in case they were not able to get to Greenport. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Sep 24 14:11:25 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Joe V on Tue Sep 24 06:59:14 2019. Must have been something to see, back in the day...car ferry's with LIRR coaches on the Sound! |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Sep 24 15:41:32 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 22 22:28:13 2019. Where's Mill Neck? |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Sep 24 16:29:05 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by R30A on Tue Sep 24 15:41:32 2019. In between TR Memorial Park and Locust Valley...LOL! |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Sep 24 17:45:03 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 24 16:29:05 2019. Mill Neck has a beautiful stone depot. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Sep 24 17:58:18 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Joe V on Tue Sep 24 17:45:03 2019. Why was it closed? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 24 18:02:44 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 24 17:58:18 2019. The C3s lack low platform capability, so all stations had to have high platforms installed. Mill Neck had insufficient ridership to justify the expense.Other stations closed in 1998 for the same reason: All local stations on the Montauk Branch in Queens: Penny Bridge, Haberman, Fresh Pond, Glendale, Richmond Hill (although this was a high platform, it didn't make sense to keep it as the only station on the lightly used line) Montauk Branch: Center Moriches, Southampton Campus-LIU Ronkonkoma/Greenport Branch: Holtsville. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Sep 24 18:16:05 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 24 17:58:18 2019. I think they hesitated for a few years because there was some school there for the hearing impaired. Not sure though. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Sep 24 18:19:54 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 24 18:02:44 2019. Quogue also. Hampton Bays was shifted a ways west.Bellport, Glen Street, and Medford damned near closed too. Closing down Southhampton Campus station was under-handed. Their criteria was AM rush hour loadings, but that is not how that station was used. As it turned out, the Campus shut down sometime later, and partially taken over by SUNY Stony Boook. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Sep 24 22:24:53 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 24 18:02:44 2019. Thanks! |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Sep 24 22:25:13 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Joe V on Tue Sep 24 18:16:05 2019. Thank you! |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Sep 24 22:25:28 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Joe V on Tue Sep 24 18:19:54 2019. Thanks, Joe! |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Sep 25 07:44:58 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 22 22:29:02 2019. I bet you'll be able to stick closer to your budget than the MTA would!! |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Sep 25 07:48:05 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Joe V on Tue Sep 24 18:19:54 2019. I'm glad Glen Street survived. In late 2012-early 2013, I had a daily reverse commute to it!! |
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Posted by Q4 on Wed Sep 25 07:51:16 2019, in response to Re: Starting to build the yard at Oyster Bay, posted by Joe V on Tue Sep 24 18:19:54 2019. The temporary LIRR station that was built for two US Opens (possibly one other time for an LPGA event for riders going to and from Shinnecock Hills was built on the other side of Tuckahoe Rd., just east of the former Southampton Campus-LIU station. |
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