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Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 26 21:44:05 2019 Train hits car and derails. 3 reported dead. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 26 21:50:50 2019, in response to Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 26 21:44:05 2019. The School Street crossing right by Holy Rood Cemetery. School Street becomes Salisbury Park Drive on the other side of Old Country Road. I drive through that crossing often, sometimes by bicycle. |
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Posted by BrooklynTrain on Tue Feb 26 21:52:02 2019, in response to Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 26 21:44:05 2019. http://longisland.news12.com/story/40032821/lirr-train-strikes-vehicle-on-tracks-in-westbury-at-least-3-dead "Nassau Police Commissioner Patrick Ryder says a vehicle likely tried to beat the train at the crossing, which had its guard lowered. He says all three of the vehicle's occupants died."LIRR Twitter says "The LIRR is operating an extra diesel train from Jamaica at approximately 9:35PM that will travel up the Central Branch and stop at Hicksville.". What is the "Central Branch" (isn't Westbury part of the Main/Central branch)? Do they mean go from Jamaica to Babylon, then reverse move to Hicksville? |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 26 21:52:24 2019, in response to Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 26 21:50:50 2019. Looks like over 100 feet of platform knocked over as well |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 26 21:53:19 2019, in response to Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by BrooklynTrain on Tue Feb 26 21:52:02 2019. The Central Branch is that thing that runs from Bethpage to Babylon. The Main Line and Central Branch are not the same thing. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 26 21:54:16 2019, in response to Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by BrooklynTrain on Tue Feb 26 21:52:02 2019. Central branch runs from east of Bethpage to Belmont Junction where it meets with the Babylon/Montauk branches |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 26 21:59:49 2019, in response to Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 26 21:44:05 2019. Live right now on News 12 |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 26 22:04:11 2019, in response to Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 26 21:53:19 2019. There is talk of a plan to electrify that track so electric trains can use it during emergencies or construction. It's a single track. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 26 22:09:13 2019, in response to Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 26 21:44:05 2019. According to the news, two trains hit the vehicle, both an Eastbound train and then a Westbound train. It's the Westbound train that hit the platform and got the most damage. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Feb 26 22:10:49 2019, in response to Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 26 22:09:13 2019. Sounds like that Metrolink accident a few years ago. |
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Photos of the damage M7 car #7425 Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:12:29 2019, in response to Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 26 21:44:05 2019.     |
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News conference on right now on News 12 Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 26 22:15:59 2019, in response to Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 26 21:44:05 2019. News conference on right now on News 12. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Feb 26 22:20:28 2019, in response to Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by BrooklynTrain on Tue Feb 26 21:52:02 2019. He says all three of the vehicle's occupants died.Damn, I much prefer it when the driver survives knowing he killed his friends while getting sued for damages by the MTA... |
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Portion of Westbury platform destruction; photo Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:21:52 2019, in response to Photos of the damage M7 car #7425 Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:12:29 2019. 
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Re: Photos of the damage M7 car #7425 Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Feb 26 22:22:58 2019, in response to Photos of the damage M7 car #7425 Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:12:29 2019. That M7 held up well crashing into a concrete platform, very robust.This is also Another LIRR M7 OOS due to an accident, there's a bunch sidelined at Arch street and now this one is out. M3's gonna be getting more usage I guess. |
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Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:26:08 2019, in response to Photos of the damage M7 car #7425 Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:12:29 2019.    |
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Helicopter overhead pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:30:30 2019, in response to Photos of the damage M7 car #7425 Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:12:29 2019.   |
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The remnants of a pickup truck struck by LIRR trains, pic Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:33:21 2019, in response to Photos of the damage M7 car #7425 Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:12:29 2019.  |
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Re: Photos of the damage M7 car #7425 Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Tue Feb 26 22:41:43 2019, in response to Re: Photos of the damage M7 car #7425 Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Feb 26 22:22:58 2019. Still looks like a total write-off though, at least for 7425. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Feb 26 23:16:10 2019, in response to Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 26 22:09:13 2019. But what could have caused the westbound train to derail like that? Was it additional force added to the car by the eastbound train? |
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Re: The remnants of a pickup truck struck by LIRR trains, pic Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Feb 26 23:17:23 2019, in response to The remnants of a pickup truck struck by LIRR trains, pic Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:33:21 2019. It might take DNA to identify the bodies. |
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Re: Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Feb 26 23:19:54 2019, in response to Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:26:08 2019. How many people were in the car? Looks like it wasn't that durable. |
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Re: The remnants of a pickup truck struck by LIRR trains, pic Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Feb 26 23:28:34 2019, in response to The remnants of a pickup truck struck by LIRR trains, pic Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:33:21 2019. Here is a brief junkyard video of a Honda Accord that tangled with a train. |
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Re: Portion of Westbury platform destruction; photo Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Tue Feb 26 23:38:37 2019, in response to Portion of Westbury platform destruction; photo Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:21:52 2019. I always thought the platform ends should be beveled so at to catch and redirect the train back to the trackway should this happen, but is probably so rare for a train to be derailed at just the right place and by a limited amount for the idea to be worthwhile. Except for today.The train held up very well, considering it hit a concrete slab! |
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Re: Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Feb 26 23:49:15 2019, in response to Re: Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by 3-9 on Tue Feb 26 23:19:54 2019. I think it did about as well as could be expected. Platforms aren't light. |
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M7 car #7426 photo Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 23:49:56 2019, in response to Photos of the damage M7 car #7425 Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:12:29 2019. visible damage to that car.
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Re: Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by sloth on Tue Feb 26 23:58:25 2019, in response to Re: Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by 3-9 on Tue Feb 26 23:19:54 2019. Most of the load on a KO westbound is in the back. The railroad gets lucky yet again. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Feb 26 23:59:48 2019, in response to Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 26 21:44:05 2019. Fox News is currently the only national network mentioning it. |
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7 minor injuries; train crew treated for "shock"; Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 27 00:00:42 2019, in response to Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 26 21:44:05 2019. LIRR president Eng & Nassau County Police Department: The car went around downed gates at Westbury, was hit 1st by a slow moving eastbound train, then again by a faster westbound train, killing 3 passengers in car.7 people in train suffered minor injuries; engineer and conductor “shaken up.” Shuttle trains deployed between Hicksville and Babylon The full extent of the repairs won’t be known until investigation wraps up and crews can better assess the damage. At least 200 feet of rail will need to be replaced. Witnesses saw that the gates were down and they went around the gates |
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Re: Photos of the damage M7 car #7425 Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 27 00:04:21 2019, in response to Photos of the damage M7 car #7425 Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:12:29 2019. reupload first image:
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Re: Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Wed Feb 27 00:14:18 2019, in response to Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by gold_12th on Tue Feb 26 22:26:08 2019. The photos at 22:26:08 2019 make it appear that the motorman missed being buried under chunks of concrete by perhaps three feet. But he driver's position looks OK. |
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Re: Portion of Westbury platform destruction; photo Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Feb 27 00:42:33 2019, in response to Re: Portion of Westbury platform destruction; photo Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by Steamdriven on Tue Feb 26 23:38:37 2019. There was a brief attempt recently by the state of Connecticut to require all trains passing platforms to slow down. I suspect if anyone higher up feels the need to "do something" about this, that will be the outcome for the LIRR, which would be murder on schedules... |
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M7 derail cars Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 27 00:56:43 2019, in response to 7 minor injuries; train crew treated for "shock"; Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 27 00:00:42 2019. two trains derail 7425-7426 |
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(Press Conference, youtube) Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 27 00:57:38 2019, in response to Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 26 21:44:05 2019. 10pm news conference replay: |
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Re: Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Feb 27 05:35:49 2019, in response to Re: Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by Steamdriven on Wed Feb 27 00:14:18 2019. Subways use what was formerly called motormen. Trains use engineers.Go back and play with your toys, kid. |
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Re: Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Feb 27 06:19:49 2019, in response to Re: Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 27 05:35:49 2019. Semantics!! We all knew what he meant. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Feb 27 06:26:34 2019, in response to Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 26 21:44:05 2019. this didn't make the news, but somebody walking on the babylon branch between baldwin and freeport yesterday late afternoon was hit by a train. service was suspended for a couple of hours.also, and this i witnessed: a drunk fell onto the tracks at wantagh this morning around 5 a.m. he lucked out though, the cops came and got him back in the platform. bad night on the railroad for damn sure. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Feb 27 06:33:53 2019, in response to Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 26 21:44:05 2019. While going through a crossing gate is like playing Russian roulette I can almost understand why the driver thought he could make it. Many of Long Island's railroad crossings are next to stations and because of that the gates go down before the train enters the station and if a train is stopping at the station there is a very long wait. While I don't know if the E/B train stopped at the station but I'm assuming it did and I'm assuming the driver was familiar with that and finally said "fuck that, I'm not waiting".Of course that's not always the case as the most deadly crossing accident where 9 kids died in a van in 1982 was at the old Herricks Road Crossing which was not near any station. Only one person in that van survived, the daughter of a state senator. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Feb 27 06:39:22 2019, in response to Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Feb 27 06:33:53 2019. to be hit by two trains...simply unbelievable. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Feb 27 07:23:01 2019, in response to Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 26 21:44:05 2019. Forgive my ignorance, but is this one of the grade crossings to be eliminated by the Third Track Project? Either way, this accident shows that busy grade crossings just don't work in busy urban/suburban areas. Yes, of course people should be smart and STOP when they see the flashing lights and gates. But human nature is what it is...Now, we have 3 dead humans (still sad even if the driver was to blame) and significant property damage to the LIRR station and rolling stock. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 27 08:32:36 2019, in response to Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Feb 27 07:23:01 2019. I am dead set against the grade elimination project. People have to stop acting like retards and learned that when the lights are on and the gates are down, it means a train is coming. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Wed Feb 27 08:50:59 2019, in response to Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Feb 27 07:23:01 2019. This is one of them. |
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Re: Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Feb 27 08:53:11 2019, in response to Re: Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by 3-9 on Tue Feb 26 23:19:54 2019. M7's were designed with increased impact survivability required by the FRA |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Feb 27 09:03:16 2019, in response to Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Feb 26 22:20:28 2019. Maybe MTA could go after his estate? (If there is much of one) |
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Re: Photos of the damage M7 car #7425 Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Feb 27 09:13:33 2019, in response to Re: Photos of the damage M7 car #7425 Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by Andrew Saucci on Tue Feb 26 22:41:43 2019. If so,effectively sidelines 7426 as well, unless they can pair it with a mate-less odd-numbered car. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 27 09:39:46 2019, in response to Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Feb 27 09:03:16 2019. I'm sure his estate will file a suit (hopefully totally unsuccessful). I think the estate of the woman who killed 5 people in Valhalla 4 years ago is still suing. :( |
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Re: Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Feb 27 10:08:12 2019, in response to Re: Interior of M7 car is a MESS (crashing into platform), pics Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Feb 27 06:19:49 2019. Tell that to a LIRR engineer! |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 27 10:18:58 2019, in response to Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Feb 27 07:23:01 2019. Either way, this accident shows that busy grade crossings just don't work in busy urban/suburban areas.You have a point. On the other hand, do we tear down the GWB and the Golden Gate Bridge because they are used for so many suicides? |
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Posted by Joe on Wed Feb 27 11:19:12 2019, in response to Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Feb 26 21:44:05 2019. Maybe the westbound from Ronkonkoma to Penn could be considered a reverse commute. People intending to get off at Jamaica would sit in the rear cars, where the Jamaica elevators are. People intending to get off at Penn Station would probably sit in the rear cars, because that is where 7th Avenue is. Those loading preferences may have saved many injuries in the first cars. Also, I note that off-hours on westbound trains from Babylon, the lead two cars are often closed to revenue passengers. |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Wed Feb 27 11:23:14 2019, in response to Re: Major LIRR Accident East of Westbury, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 27 08:32:36 2019. AMEN! New Yorkers are freakin' spoiled. I remember crossings with nothing more than a white RxR sign, no lights.As a teenager I recall being shocked to find such a thing, I'd driven across it and only realized there were tracks AFTER I'd gone over it .. at a teenaged rate of speed, which launched the front wheels into the air. There was not even a stop sign. It's possible the tracks were abandoned or not in service, but the rails were in place and the ROW was intact. This was in a million $ suburb not on a farm road in Kansas. I was shocked to discover that an RxR without at least huge overhead lights and bells even existed, I'd only ever seen gated, belled crossings up to that point. Someone who drives around RR gates with red lights flashing and is not at that moment filming a movie chase scene, is a gun being fired at the public random direction. I don't mind if they scrap themselves, the problem is they are the same cretin every other minute they're driving. Sooner or later they'll T-bone another car, clip a pedestrian or kill a bicyclist. (I can't bike now, but to me it's the ideal short-distance transportation - it makes YOU stronger and faster while managing HDL/LDL. Even a Hellcat Hemi can't do that.) Nope, we don't need to create limited height overpasses the entire length of every line. Instead, the RR needs to sue people who go around the gates and cause even a ten minute delay. Obviously they need to have a procedure to deal with the occasional false gates-down, but doesn't every crossing have a phone # posted? Anyway, this homicidal cretin wasn't going around a broken crossing, he was playing chicken with the train. You cant' not see the flashing lights on that thing! |
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