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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 16 17:57:23 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Dec 16 17:56:36 2017. IAWTP |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 16 19:05:44 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Dec 16 17:56:36 2017. They are now and forever legally separate entities with a common owner, like it or not, and their paths do not cross. This is not Metra in Chicago.DT&I, LV, and LIRR were all owned by the PRR. They were not one in the same. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 16 19:28:16 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 16 19:05:44 2017. Why forever legally separate? Is there some kind of irrevocable covenant? |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 16 19:31:57 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 16 19:05:44 2017. I am curious how much of this separation will continue once they share one or two Manhattan terminals. For example, once a direct transfer is possible, will there be discounted through ticketing? Or even better, fare zone consolidation (so that a Monthly GCT-White Plains customer can go to Flushing if they so desire on the same pass)? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 16 19:44:09 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 16 19:31:57 2017. For example, once a direct transfer is possible, will there be discounted through ticketing?There isn't even through ticketing from Melrose to Pelham. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Dec 16 20:04:23 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 16 19:44:09 2017. all of that could be done if there were the political will. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Dec 16 20:12:20 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 16 19:05:44 2017. DT&I was sold off ultimately to GTW which kept some, ripped up some, and sold off tiny bits. LV otoh went to Conrail--then to CSAO. MTA got some of the freight route to Brooklyn--what some of us want to see turned into Triboro RX. The latter IINM was legally the New York Connecting--I do remember seeing NH electric freight motors from a ride on the Sea Beach. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 16 20:26:50 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 16 19:28:16 2017. It has been brought up sewvral times over the decades, I think MTA's Kalkow tried, and gets ceremoniously shot down every time. They share a some IT and merged the police force, but as far as being one entity goes, they are not. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 16 20:28:39 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 16 19:28:16 2017. Why not? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 16 20:28:59 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 16 19:31:57 2017. NJT and LIRR go to the same terminal. They have no thru ticketing, even if a few people want to go from a LIRR point to a Newark,, or some other point on NJT. None of their ticketing systems are compatible. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 16 20:50:00 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 16 19:44:09 2017. Hmmph, that's annoying, surprised MNRR is so unfriendly towards transferring lines when they have so few. LIRR has 'via' tickets, can travel via Jamaica, via Valley Stream, Via Woodside, Via Lynbrook, via Hicksville, etc for less than two one ways.Presumably the hypothetical Melrose to Pelham rider could accomplish the trip with a 125st to Pelham ticket. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 16 20:50:37 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 16 20:28:59 2017. Yes but they are not owned by the same parent agency. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 16 21:02:00 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Dec 16 20:12:20 2017. Between the New Haven and PRR, it's really disappointing how much freight (and passenger) trackage was de-powered in the US. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 16 21:07:04 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 16 20:26:50 2017. There's one reason I know of that keeps it from happening - when they tried to merge them into "MTA Rail", someone pointed out that the LIRR was the oldest American railroad that had not changed names. That threw cold water onto any re-branding efforts.Still, if Bee Line, NICE, and NYCT can agree to share the same Unlimited Ride MetroCards, surely LIRR/MNRR can cross honor monthlies... |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 16 22:10:35 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 16 20:50:00 2017. Presumably the hypothetical Melrose to Pelham rider could accomplish the trip with a 125st to Pelham ticket.Maybe so, but not according to the published rules. A 125th Street to Pelham ticket is not indicated as being valid on the Melrose to Fordham leg of the trip. If it works, it's only because you get a sympathetic first conductor, or none at all because they haven't asked for your ticket by the time you get off at Fordham. And you absolutely definitely can't travel from Botanical Garden to Pelham on one ticket unless you get a sympathetic conductor or none at all for the first leg. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 16 22:11:55 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 16 20:26:50 2017. Being shot down doesn't mean there's a legal reason. As Henry says, it may be for branding/marketing reasons. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 16 22:12:35 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 16 20:28:39 2017. If so, show some evidence. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Sat Dec 16 22:54:42 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 16 06:10:06 2017. Some would have to cross over. There's no way every GCT-bound train could stop on the island platform since there's no way to move them back to track 1 (until just north of Woodlawn) or 3 (at all), which would limit operational flexibility. Of course this is a big-bucks project and maybe some money could be found in there to convert CP 215 into a full interlocking. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 16 23:45:55 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by K. Trout on Sat Dec 16 22:54:42 2017. Aha.It doesn't really work to have half an inbound trainload of people getting off in New Rochelle on the local track and tromping up and down stairs to the Amtrak track. So either the Penn station inbound local has to stop on the inbound local track (which then fails to use the nice new platform in New Rochelle and forces train crossovers just where they don't want them), or else the Penn-bound locals have to start at least in Larchmont. I'm guessing Penn-bound locals originating in Port Chester or Harrison, trailing the GCT-bound local by a few minutes, and crossing over like Amtrak trains do so that in New Rochelle they stop on the outbound express track. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Dec 17 01:01:09 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 16 21:07:04 2017. Indeed so. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Dec 17 01:04:58 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 16 20:50:37 2017. First, before PRR unloaded LIRR to NYS/MTA there had been jiont fare multi ride tix available between PRR and LIRR points. Second, VRE and MARC briefly offered joint fares as they both operate to Union Station in DC. Thus there are precedents for interline tix w/ or w/o jointy ownership. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Dec 17 01:09:50 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 16 21:02:00 2017. absolutely agree. I wish we had 2nd(third?) generation E44s and E33s running as far south as Richmond and at least to PGH.PUT THE WIRES BACK! |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 17 07:50:16 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Dec 17 01:04:58 2017. And yet, you have Metra Electric and NICTD sharing ROW, having a His and Hers side of Millenium Station, even though non-rush hour, they could both fit into one of the other, and Metra considers Indiana and its trains to be from foreign country.Same thing in San Jose: Caltrain and ACE commuter trains - Macys and Gimbels. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Dec 17 14:04:03 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 17 07:50:16 2017. I would not describe MED/NICTD as being much like San Jose.Randolph Street was built to handle far better service than currently operated by either MED or NICTD. As to foreign country, the actual trackage from Kensington to the Indiana line was (IINM is still) owned by IC (now MED). Several decades ago when South Shore Line was short of equipment, Metra operated diesel powered bi-level trains as far as Hegewisch. The situation in San Jose is more like Union Station in DC. Caltrain owns the station and operate both to and through. ACE is a guest, as is Amtrak in the form of the Coast Starlight, and the Capitol Corridor though operated by Amtrak on contract could just as well be considered a separate entity as they are managed by BART on behalf of a "joint powers authority". |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Dec 17 16:20:39 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 16 16:18:06 2017. They really don’t have to be. Look at NJT which is a single agency operating lines of the former JCRR, PRR and E-L with no separate corporate identities and SEPTA which operates the commuter lines of the former PRR and the Reading also as a single entity. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Dec 17 16:24:22 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 16 22:11:55 2017. Not only that but if the governors of the states through which the MTA’s RRs operate get together and decide they want it, it will be done. I doubt the FRA would want to put a stop to it since it allowed SEPTA and NJT to do something similar. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 17 18:18:24 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by randyo on Sun Dec 17 16:20:39 2017. Difference is LIRR and MN paths do not cross and their electrical and signals systems are all incompatible. They is really no point in merging them. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 17 18:26:35 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 17 18:18:24 2017. Finance, HR, Legal, Purchasing, Marketing are all mergeable functions. Maintenance maybe not so much. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 17 18:32:07 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by randyo on Sun Dec 17 16:24:22 2017. if the governors of the states through which the MTA’s RRs operate get together and decide they want itThere's no precedent for that. Why would they do that anyway? There are only legacy contract operations from the Conrail days. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 17 18:36:43 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by randyo on Sun Dec 17 16:20:39 2017. It's better if they stay that way.And that's CNJ, BTW. Those identities were gone when NJTR came around to take them over too; all Conrail. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 17 18:37:41 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 17 18:26:35 2017. Finance, HR, Legal, Purchasing, Marketing are all mergeable functionsSure, if your intent is to swing an axe. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Dec 17 21:58:23 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 17 18:18:24 2017. sounds like some RR exec in the 50s discussing pooling diesel power.Decades ago there were incompatible fueling systems and cab signals. Now, you have no idea what RR you are watching based on the engines hauling the freight. Kind of like national standards for track guage, air brake systems. Long past time for MTA's various parts become more standardised. As to the desk jockey paperwork jobs, they should have been merged long ago; at this point they might as well be simply outsourced to a single contractor. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 17 22:19:14 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 17 18:26:35 2017. Maintenance should never, ever be merged. MNRR is far, far better at it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 17 22:38:28 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 17 22:19:14 2017. Versus LIRR? Not a metric to be proud of. Now if the speed limit on the New Haven line goes up and they allow the Acela to tilt, that's a different story. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 17 22:42:43 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 17 22:38:28 2017. I was thinking equipment maintenance. LIRR seems to be better at keeping speeds up, but I think that's less maintenance dept and more bean counters. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 17 23:58:59 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 17 22:42:43 2017. I think LIRR cars gets more mileage than MAN ones. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Dec 18 00:00:32 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 17 23:58:59 2017. Damn spell check.MAN ones should be MN ones. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Dec 18 00:11:54 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 17 18:36:43 2017. But they still merged under a single umbrella which was Conrail. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 18 07:17:46 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 17 22:19:14 2017. Indeed. Look at the M-3 verses M-3A.They also keep a couple of dozen 45 year old M-2's around. LIRR already stripped 20 or so M-3's. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 18 08:28:39 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by randyo on Mon Dec 18 00:11:54 2017. But they still functioned as separate railroads, down to Newark and Hoboken Divisions, and to start with each side with their own equipment. They didn't get blended until Midtown Direct about 25 years after Conrail.Right until The Comet-I's came along in 1970, they generally kept the Stillwells on the ex-Erie lines and Boonton cars on the ex Lackawanna lines, even though the EL merger was 10 - 12 years prior. and they all ran out of Hoboken. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Dec 18 11:40:03 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Dec 18 00:00:32 2017. MDBF ## would tell the tale. While I don't have same, it is my guess LIRR's ## are significantly worse than MNR's. Would also be interested in CDoT ## for a fuller perspective. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 18 13:13:46 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Dec 18 11:40:03 2017. I have read the MDBF for the MN M3A are quadruple that of the LIRR M3 (and they look it). |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Dec 18 13:46:36 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 18 13:13:46 2017. says the LIRR shops need to be cleaned up. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 18 13:50:37 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Dec 18 13:46:36 2017. LIRR and MTA mgmt needs to be cleaned up for tolerating this crap. LIRR detested the M-3's from when the last M-1 left the scene, ran them into the ground, and the stupid MTA took the bait. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Dec 18 15:03:12 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 18 13:50:37 2017. That’s why as I mentioned in another post, there should be one MTA Rail division to oversee operations, planning and maintenance so that there are strict standards. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 18 15:26:54 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by randyo on Mon Dec 18 15:03:12 2017. Those standards could be set by LIRR-types for all. Do you want that ? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Dec 18 15:36:38 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 18 15:26:54 2017. No, but they could just as well be MN standards, IF the LIRR shops can be made to shape up. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 18 15:39:01 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Dec 18 15:36:38 2017. Since LIRR gets paid more, and it's a bigger railroad, who do you think would win that war ? As it was, MTA got bamboozled into buying M-9's for these spoiled brats. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Dec 18 16:42:10 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 18 15:39:01 2017. Since as I was told, the MN has OSHA compliant maintenance facilities which the LIRR does not, it’s more likely MN standards will be the ones applied. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 18 17:16:06 2017, in response to Re: RPA: The Fourth Regional Plan: Create a fully integrated, regional transit system, posted by randyo on Mon Dec 18 16:42:10 2017. That's only for the non-compliant paint booth at Hillside. |
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