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Re: Scrolling R160 side signs |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Mar 5 00:10:56 2017, in response to Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by gbs on Sat Mar 4 23:30:53 2017. You may want to express your concerns directly to NYCT via snail mail (preferably) or Email. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 5 08:42:22 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Mar 5 00:10:56 2017. You may want to express your concerns directly to NYCT via snail mail (preferably) or Email.Or in this case, EXP those concerns. Waka! Waka! |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Mar 5 09:04:43 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 5 08:42:22 2017. Use your LCL post office. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Mar 5 09:45:34 2017, in response to Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by gbs on Sat Mar 4 23:30:53 2017. Everything in your post was an unintended mistake which will be rectified before too long. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 5 09:53:50 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by G1Ravage on Sun Mar 5 09:45:34 2017. I'm not around the E line too much of late. Can anyone tell how many characters it exceeds the screen limit by? Is it just one or two? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Mar 5 09:59:58 2017, in response to Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by gbs on Sat Mar 4 23:30:53 2017. In North Dakota we have a Boulevard Avenue.Redundant redundancies if ewe ask me. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 5 10:09:28 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Mar 5 09:59:58 2017. "The Lane" is a common official street name in some quiet parts. Zip code 11771 being the closest that I know. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Mar 5 10:28:46 2017, in response to Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by gbs on Sat Mar 4 23:30:53 2017. How do they program these things ? Does someone come into the car with a Flash Drive and load it ? |
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Posted by Michael549 on Sun Mar 5 12:32:50 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 5 08:42:22 2017. Gotta love those Muppet jokes!Ha! Ha! Mike |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Mar 5 14:10:54 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 5 10:09:28 2017. New Rochelle has "The Boulevard" and "The Court", and several others like that.Then there's "Street Road" in Pennsylvania, a little north of Philadelphia. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 5 14:57:59 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Mar 5 14:10:54 2017. Toronto has Avenue Road. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Mar 5 15:12:54 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by SLRT on Sun Mar 5 09:04:43 2017. And if you make it L'C'L, it'll look like a BMT standard route sign.:) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Mar 5 15:14:06 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 5 14:57:59 2017. It's better than living on Jackass Hill Road. We've got one of those in metro Denver. |
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Posted by Southern BMT on Sun Mar 5 15:50:02 2017, in response to Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by gbs on Sat Mar 4 23:30:53 2017. They have not only changed the side signs, but also the announcements. The (Q) on the UES is no longer "via the Second Avenue line", and in Brooklyn is now "Coney Island - Stillwell Avenue bound" instead of just "Coney Island bound".It also sounds like "(4) express" and "(5) express" trains are now just "(4)" and "(5)" trains while in Brooklyn. What was the point of making these changes? And anyone catch any other announcement changes recently? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Mar 5 16:42:42 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by Southern BMT on Sun Mar 5 15:50:02 2017. I thought they were trying to cut syllables off announcements to reduce dwell time ? |
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Posted by gbs on Sun Mar 5 22:33:53 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 5 09:53:50 2017. Well, "QUEENS BLVD EXP" (15 characters) fits, but "BROADWAY EXPRESS" (16 characters) triggers the scrolling, so it seems that the display is 15 characters, assuming the characters are equally wide and not proportionally spaced.Some E trains still have the shorter version, so we'll try to see if "QUEENS BLVD EXP" fills the screen completely. The R142s have a fixed number of slots (20, I believe) for characters on their side signs, but the R160s just have a collection of pixels, like all the cars' interior end signs, so they're more variable. 
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Mar 6 01:40:55 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by gbs on Sun Mar 5 22:33:53 2017. I think you meant QUEENS BLVD EXPRESS.BROADWAY EXPRESS fits without a scroll. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Mar 6 09:55:32 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 5 09:53:50 2017. Approximately 17 is the character limit.We've learned it doesn't always work. And apparently, the R-160 side signs will automatically scroll if you go over. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Mar 6 21:18:54 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Mar 6 09:55:32 2017. "Approximately 17 is the character limit."Is it a proportional font? Otherwise, why is it approximate? |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Mar 6 23:28:44 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Mar 6 21:18:54 2017. It's a proportional font. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Mar 7 00:21:27 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 5 09:53:50 2017. Can anyone tell how manyOkay, let's count pixels here. The text "QUEENS BLVD LOCAL" is positioned at the exact left edge of the display, and has two blank columns to the right of the final L. Q: 7 U: 6 E: 5 N: 7 S: 6 [Space]: 3 B: 6 L: 5 V: 7 D: 6 O: 6 C: 6 A: 6 So, "QUEENS BLVD LOCAL", taking into account one blank column of pixels after each character is… 7+1+6+1+5+1+5+1+7+1+6+1+3+1+6+1+5+1+7+1+6+1+3+1+5+1+6+1+6+1+6+1+5 = 110 Q U E E N S _ B L V D _ L O C A L Add the two columns to the right of the final L, and you get a total of 112. That's the maximum pixel width the message can have without scrolling. Let's add some other characters into the mix: X: 7 P: 6 R: 6 W: 7 Y: 6 I: 2 4: 7 /: 6 2: 6 1: 4 -: 6 T: 6 G: 6 The string "QUEENS BLVD EXPRESS" would be… 7+1+6+1+5+1+5+1+7+1+6+1+3+1+6+1+5+1+7+1+6+1+3+1+5+1+7+1+6+1+6+1+5+1+6+1+6 = 125 Q U E E N S _ B L V D _ E X P R E S S Let's consider other strings and their pixel widths: 21 ST-QUEENSBRIDGE: 115 BROADWAY/4 AV EXP: 114 BROADWAY EXPRESS: 111 Any others? |
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Posted by gbs on Tue Mar 7 02:33:02 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Mar 7 00:21:27 2017. That's excellent information, thanks! Apparently "BROADWAY EXPRESS" fits without scrolling as I thought I saw. In your post, how did you get the text below the numbers to line up perfectly with the numbers above? When I try to include several spaces, they get compressed and the lines no longer line up. Even when I copy-and-paste yours, the same thing happens: 7+1+6+1+5+1+5+1+7+1+6+1+3+1+6+1+5+1+7+1+6+1+3+1+5+1+7+1+6+1+6+1+5+1+6+1+6 = 125 Q U E E N S _ B L V D _ E X P R E S S |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Mar 7 07:20:03 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by gbs on Tue Mar 7 02:33:02 2017. I used non-breaking spaces ( ), which don't collapse into a single space like regular space characters do. They tend not to copy well either. |
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Posted by gbs on Wed Mar 8 02:34:15 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Mar 7 07:20:03 2017. Thanks. I noticed that when I viewed your source and I tried using them too but it didn't work. I'm going to try again:7+1+6+1+5+1+5+1+7+1+6 Q U E E N S It's not working. The spaces are still compressing. I used three space symbols between each letter but they don't line up correctly. Am I doing something wrong? |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Mar 8 16:03:42 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Mar 7 00:21:27 2017. Correction: The total for BROADWAY EXPRESS is 108, not 111.Addendum: BROADWAY JUNCTION scrolls. Its total is 114. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Mar 8 16:14:49 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by gbs on Wed Mar 8 02:34:15 2017. It looks like you're using a proportional font. I used a fixed-width font using the <tt> tag. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Mar 8 20:29:43 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Mar 8 16:03:42 2017. Time to either shorten to:BROADWAY JCT or B'WAY JUNCTION |
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Posted by gbs on Thu Mar 9 05:03:03 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Mar 8 16:14:49 2017. Well, this is new territory for me. I'll try again:7+1+6+1+5+1+5+1+7+1+6 Q U E E N S Success!!! Thanks for the lessons! |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Mar 14 23:45:01 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by G1Ravage on Sun Mar 5 09:45:34 2017. Seems like it was. Southbound Ns now read BWAY/4 AV EXP, no matter if they originated from Astoria or 96 St-2 Av. |
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Posted by gbs on Thu Mar 16 02:06:28 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Mar 14 23:45:01 2017. The Manhattan-bound N I caught at Queensboro Plaza yesterday had that very display, and it scrolled. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Nov 26 01:35:07 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Mar 7 00:21:27 2017. As an aside, the side signs on the R179 have a 150×9 pixel array for the destination, so more characters will be able to fit. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Nov 26 07:57:13 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Nov 26 01:35:07 2017. They kind of look like the PA-5 signs from the videos I've seen. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Nov 30 12:21:21 2017, in response to Re: Scrolling R160 side signs, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Nov 26 01:35:07 2017. So to recap:R143: 108×8 R160: 112×9 R179: 150×9 |
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