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If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do? |
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Posted by caine515 on Tue Sep 27 09:55:12 2016 This is a hypothetical question to the subchatters. Lets say you came into money. You can do 1 change to MTA NYC subways to improve it(it could be tracks,stations,cars) but ONE change is allowed. These are the two I would do:1-add a switch track between the southbound local to the express track near Broadway LAfeyette Street so if "B" or "D" have to go via 8th Ave, they can come back to their regular route after W 4th Street instead of being terminated at 2nd Avenue or via the "F" line. 2-extend the tracks past Parsons/Archer for either a new station to ease overcrowding or extra tracks to layup some "E" or "J" trains. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 27 10:02:50 2016, in response to If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by caine515 on Tue Sep 27 09:55:12 2016. Build a new elevated line in Manhattan with branches to Queens and Brooklyn, via bridges and connecting at flood-free locations to the subway system. That way if another superstorm* comes along, we can maintain service if low lying infrastructure needs to be closed for extended repairs. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Sep 27 10:20:46 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 27 10:02:50 2016. IAWTP. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 27 10:28:32 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 27 10:02:50 2016. Not a bad idea.I'd send an El across East Tremont Ave. The Bronx badly needs a cross town. It would be so helpful. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 27 10:35:10 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 27 10:02:50 2016. Non-starter, and a "superstorm" can cause wind damage to such a structure. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 27 10:42:21 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 27 10:35:10 2016. Do you see any elevateds that were damaged by Sandy? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Sep 27 13:26:54 2016, in response to If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by caine515 on Tue Sep 27 09:55:12 2016. Build everything planned around South Fourth Street as in most of the Second System |
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Posted by Bzuck on Tue Sep 27 14:11:28 2016, in response to If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by caine515 on Tue Sep 27 09:55:12 2016. Not having a cross over near Broadway Laffiatte was a HUGE oops from the Christie Street addition. I consider that essential so B and D trains could resume normal routing when an 8th Avenue reroute is necessary. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Tue Sep 27 15:16:30 2016, in response to If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by caine515 on Tue Sep 27 09:55:12 2016. Remove all timers :) |
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Posted by Allan on Tue Sep 27 15:39:13 2016, in response to If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by caine515 on Tue Sep 27 09:55:12 2016. "2-extend the tracks past Parsons/Archer for either a new station to ease overcrowding or extra tracks to layup some "E" or "J" trains."on the "E" level the tracks (D1A and D2A) do extend beyond the station for roughly 3,000 feet so they can layup at trains on each track. * * This info from "Tracks of the New York City Subway" by Peter Doughtery. According to Peter, this was done as an intended link with the Montauk branch of the LIRR for a ROW sharing to Springfield Gardens in SE Queens. |
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Posted by Robert From Queens on Tue Sep 27 15:57:20 2016, in response to If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by caine515 on Tue Sep 27 09:55:12 2016. Better communication when there's a problem, or an "incident."Communication to me is being able to hear and understand what the train crew is saying. More often than not, there's no announcement of what's going on, and if there is, I have no idea what's being said. Rob |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Sep 27 16:04:40 2016, in response to If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by caine515 on Tue Sep 27 09:55:12 2016. Build a line under Union Turnpike in Queens between Queens Boulevard in Kew Gardens and Lakeville Road in New Hyde Park. This line would serve customers in eastern Queens who have no subway service and need to rely on the packed Q46 bus lines.Stops would be located at Main Street (change for the Q20 and Q44 to Flushing), 164th Street (to serve Queens General Hospital) Utopia Parkway (to serve St. John's University), 188th Street (to serve the Jamaica Estates neighborhood and nearby Cunningham Park) Francis Lewis Boulevard (also serves Cunningham Park) Bell Boulevard (change for bus lines serving Windsor Park and Bayside) Springfield Boulevard (change for bus to Alley Pond Park) Stronghurst Avenue (serve the Bellerose community) Winchester Boulevard (change for bus to Douglaston community) Little Neck Parkway (serves the Little Neck/Glen Oaks areas) 260th Street (bus terminal for some lines) Lakeville Road/City Line (serves LI Jewish Hosp) |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Sep 27 16:05:04 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by N6 Limited on Tue Sep 27 15:16:30 2016. Not necessarily all timers but only the unnecessary ones and speed up the ones a bit that are needed. Once when riding the F between Prosp Pk and ft Hamilton, I observed the train’s speedometer. Although those timers were posted at 35 MPH, the timers were clearing perfectly at 28 MPH. When some of the planners from Chicago come in in the 1980s, there was supposed to have been a committee formed to assess the location of all GT signals, remove the ones that weren’t needed and adjust the ones that remained. The actual concept was that the signals would clear about 3 MPH ABOVE the posted limits which would still allow trains to proceed at the allowable speed without having to overslow for the signals to clear and to avoid bing tripped. Instead of the intended result, it seemed that more GT signals and wheel detectors were installed in places they never were before and weren’t needed and all the GT signals were slowed down even worse than before. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Sep 27 17:09:55 2016, in response to If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by caine515 on Tue Sep 27 09:55:12 2016. 1) Extend the #7 train out to Port Washington.2) Extend the Astoria Line to LaGuardia. 3) Extend the IRT to Kings Plaza None are original ideas but all would have great utility |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Sep 27 17:14:19 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Sep 27 10:20:46 2016. +1 |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Sep 27 17:23:00 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 27 10:28:32 2016. I would fully rebuild the 3rd Avenue El (both Manhattan and the Bronx) that I think by the time the SAS is complete may be needed IN ADDITION TO the SAS, especially if all the buildings that are proposed for midtown are built.This might be the one exception to the rules of not building for the IRT. In this case, I would have three branches of the line: (8) that would be the Battery Park City Branch that would also be the main branch with peak direction express service between Chatam Square and Gun Hill Road. Going downtown, the line would actually once reaching Battery Park City (via Battery Place and before that Church Street, Chambers Street, Park Row, Centre Street and Worth Street) actually turn north and terminate at West Thames Street. (9) that would be the South Ferry Branch, with stops at South Ferry, the Seaport and At Avenue of The Strongest before Chatam Square. There also would be a shuttle that would run between West Thames Street and South Ferry that would be a (mostly) single track line between the two stations. The (10) would be the Brookfield Place Branch. This branch would run along Worth with the (8) until the (8) broke off at Centre Street, then go to West Street and end at Brookfield Place. Of course, this likely never happens, but...... |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Sep 27 17:23:55 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 27 10:42:21 2016. I didn't:And any I built would be to standards where it could withstand a storm TWICE as severe as Sandy. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Tue Sep 27 17:24:33 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Allan on Tue Sep 27 15:39:13 2016. He is wrong. It was meant for a line replacing the LIRR's Atlantic Branch to Springfield Boulevard.Here is |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Tue Sep 27 17:28:16 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Sep 27 17:23:00 2016. That is such a horrible proposal that I don't know what to say. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Sep 27 19:03:01 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Union Tpke on Tue Sep 27 17:28:16 2016. If you thik this one is bad, you should have seen his plans to preserve the 6th Ave el as a tourist attraction! |
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Posted by Allan on Tue Sep 27 19:55:55 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Union Tpke on Tue Sep 27 17:24:33 2016. I think you should contact Peter at nyctrackbook@gmail.com and let him know so he can update his book for the 2017 edition. |
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Posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Wed Sep 28 01:10:43 2016, in response to If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by caine515 on Tue Sep 27 09:55:12 2016. Extend the E via LIRR trackage to SE Queens. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 28 01:32:38 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Robert From Queens on Tue Sep 27 15:57:20 2016. It's rare that a crew does not communicate with customers. The crew wants to know what is wrong too, and they're more than happy to pass the info along to customers.Same with platform announcements. People are usually informed by personnel. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 28 02:32:56 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Sep 27 17:23:55 2016. What standards are those? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 28 02:34:07 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 27 10:42:21 2016. There were none along its track. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Wed Sep 28 05:42:41 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 27 10:42:21 2016. Do you see any elevateds that were damaged by Sandy?I believe that an entire section of trackage crossing Jamaica Bay was wiped away by Hurricane Sandy. I remember seeing pictures of a boat that landed across the trackage and other heavy damage which took a great deal of time to repair. I seen to remember Rockaway communities complaining of the lack of subway service, and the resulting problems with the replacement bus services. I also seem to remember that some exposed train facilities were mightily impacted by the storm, not only in NYC, but also in New Jersey and other places. Mike |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Sep 28 06:18:50 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Michael549 on Wed Sep 28 05:42:41 2016. That wasn't an elevated, it was a surface line. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 11:34:28 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Sep 27 17:23:00 2016. That's cool with me. I thought of the third ave el as well. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 11:39:31 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Michael549 on Wed Sep 28 05:42:41 2016. Jamaica Bay is elevated?The el in rockaway was good enough to run R-32s less than a month later. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 11:42:02 2016, in response to If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by caine515 on Tue Sep 27 09:55:12 2016. Restore the Rockaway Beach branch. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Wed Sep 28 15:45:58 2016, in response to If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by caine515 on Tue Sep 27 09:55:12 2016. Rebuild / Replace every station / maintain in pristine conditionRemove every inch of any form of vandalism (i.e. spray paint track walls, acid on token booth / station / elevator glass, scratches / acid on stainless steel surfaces (train interiors, station surfaces). |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Sep 28 16:22:51 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 28 02:32:56 2016. Point was, the ELs we had all sustained Sandy very well with the exception of the area around Jamaica Bay. The rest of the ELs withstood Sandy just fine.My plan for NEW ELs would be to build them to handle a storm TWICE as bad as Sandy. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Sep 28 16:24:01 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 11:39:31 2016. Absolutely!!The area around Jamaica Bay was the ONLY area to suffer damage. My plan would be to build any new Els to handle storms TWICE as bad as Sandy. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Sep 28 17:23:10 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Wed Sep 28 01:10:43 2016. That was the original plan. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Sep 28 17:25:07 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Sep 28 16:22:51 2016. Actually, all the el structures on the Rockaway Line withstood Sandy quite well which is why the shuttle was able to be operated between Far Rock and Rock Pk. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Sep 28 20:03:47 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Sep 28 15:45:58 2016. Evict the rats from Chambers Street. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Thu Sep 29 06:25:48 2016, in response to If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by caine515 on Tue Sep 27 09:55:12 2016. Provide the MTA with $200 Billion Dollars Free & Clear - with $100 Billion To Be Used For Capital Improvements - New Lines - New Structures - New Equipment, Etc., and with the remaining $100 Billion To Help With The MTA's Debt Problems.That kind of action would provide the MTA with an immediate and years to come benefits and abilities to provide its riders with better service. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Sep 29 08:46:17 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 11:34:28 2016. That's the idea.It's based on what I previously wrote about how I think the 3rd Avenue EL would have evolved (with two rebuilds, one on the 1960's and a second one after 9/11) if it had not been torn down and were still there today. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Sep 29 08:48:02 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 11:42:02 2016. That's another big one.Very much needed. |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Thu Sep 29 23:09:58 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by randyo on Wed Sep 28 17:23:10 2016. How hard do you think it would be to build an el above the right of way? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 29 23:25:19 2016, in response to Re: If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by Ian Lennon on Thu Sep 29 23:09:58 2016. How hard do you think it would be to build an el above the right of way?On a scale of 1 to 10? 1 to 100? Relative to what? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Sep 30 18:57:40 2016, in response to If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by caine515 on Tue Sep 27 09:55:12 2016. Speed up the whole damn system!!! |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 30 19:50:50 2016, in response to If you can do 1 thing for MTA NYC Subways, what would you do?, posted by caine515 on Tue Sep 27 09:55:12 2016. Create Triboto RX from South Brooklyn to New Rochelle, with an additional crosstown branch in the Bronx, a parallel subway/TRX branch south of Flatbush Ave., and maybe branches to Jamaica and LaGuardia Airport. The system will be built to railroad specs, compatible with Metro North, but the cars will be subway-like in terms of acceleration, interior, and loading. |
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