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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 20:45:27 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 10:04:35 2015. Having driven it several times before, yes. Especially right when you come off the Tap approaching the split for the Deegan |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 20:50:04 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 10:05:22 2015. The Bay Ridge is tangled and twisted? Where? It's fairly straight with a few gentle curves, in a cut. What exactly is it tangled and twisting around? And again, how does covering make it any worse? Your most recent objection was it becoming a tunnel and I asked what's so bad about it being a tunnel. Any answer? |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 20:51:26 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Sep 5 15:34:42 2015. What does London currently do for folks who have no choice but to drive (like those I mentioned previously)? Is there any exception for them or do they just have to form it over? |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 20:55:48 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 10:20:17 2015. How does everyone benefit less from 2 systems. He just noted that airport pax get the faster Manhattan ride and local pax get the luggage free ride. Sounds like a win win to me |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 21:00:56 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 10:31:54 2015. Airports are designed with luggage carrying passengers in mind, the subway system was not. Airports have escalators, ramps, elevators. I have yet to visit an airport that requires passengers to carry their luggage up a staircase without there being an alternative, but most of the subway stations are exactly like that. So no, it's not as simple as "if they can navigate the airport then they can navigate the subway" |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 21:02:09 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 10:27:34 2015. He's not ADA, he's just older. I'm guessing you're pretty young by the sound of this |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:26:26 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ntrainride on Sun Sep 6 10:44:58 2015. Everywhere is someone's back yard. There is physically NO PLACE to expand the CBE. There are buildings literally FEET from the highway. The CBE/TME should be tolled, which is easy with electronic tolling, and it should be a hefty charge to use it, but demand is mostly inelastic, so while that might work a little bit in the long term, it wouldn't do much in the short term.Unfortunately, the way everything was designed, you have this giant 14-lane bridge that all of the sudden goes into 6 lanes in NYC, where most of the freight coming into southern New England from anywhere else on the planet has to go through, and it's no wonder that the TME/CBE are massively congested. I'm not sure what the share of car traffic is between the TZB and GWB is, but trucks have no good way to get to the TZB on the NJ side, so they're basically stuck going through there. I shudder to think what would happen to NYC and New England if the GWB/TME route was closed off for an extended period of time for some reason. We would effectively be cut off from global commerce. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:30:50 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by subfan on Sun Sep 6 10:54:47 2015. Well, I actually DID take that combination. If you had bothered to look at a map, you would see that the Aquarium-Blue Line station is a short walk from Boston-South Station. The Silver Line does a more direct connection, but Blue is a nicer walk/ride if the weather is nice. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:32:05 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 6 13:46:34 2015. I believe that the Denver system is under FRA regulations, as they share actual trackage with freights at some point in the system, or will in the future. If they don't or won't share any tracks, then I'm not sure why they would stay under FRA regulation. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:36:16 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 20:21:30 2015. True, trains have issues. We were holding our breath, as it was in Sept of 2013, that week that they were running part of MN off of FrankenTransformer. But they usually come in right on time.I would not take some stupid private bus. Public transit is cheaper and better. Who cares if there are 3 or 4 transfers? We got to see NYC on our way. Plus, paying some stupid bus to drive us on the same congested highway we could just as well drive our own car on would eat into the savings of getting the cheap flight out of JFK, mostly defeating the purpose of flying direct out of there versus a connection out of CT. The whole idea was that we were able to only go a short distance on rubber tires, and mostly stay on the rails or our feet. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:36:20 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 20:24:08 2015. Actually, all LIRR trains do have bathrooms, since they run over the hour FRA bathroom requirement. The FRA should just change their rule to all passenger trains must have bathrooms. Problem solved. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:39:49 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 20:44:26 2015. How? And what's the point? How would turning it into a limited access highway give it any more capacity than it has now?Second, if anything, that road should have bike and bus lanes and more green space put in in lieu of some of the lanes that are there now. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:41:04 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 20:45:27 2015. Unless it's an extended portion over 4%, an elevated concrete railroad should be able to come down more gently. But if it is extended, then that would create a problem for the railroad. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:42:28 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 20:50:04 2015. I'm talking about all the bridges over it, and it's tunnels and whatnot.That's just a terrible idea to bury it any more than it already is. And it would just make more traffic.And with TriboroRX, who wants to stand in a station underneath a dirty highway? A series of terrible ideas all around. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:43:24 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 20:51:26 2015. I believe that they have to pay it. Cost of doing business. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:52:19 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 20:55:48 2015. Because AirTrain would pull resources away from the subway that could be put towards expanding the subway, which benefits everyone. There is no reason for a dedicated AirTrain to go into Manhattan when the subway already serves that purpose. And where would it go? The subway goes anywhere you want, the AirTrain would only go one place, and then you'd have to get on the subway anyway. Even if you want to hit a transit hub with AirTrain, does it go to Fulton Street? Penn Station? GCT? PABT?Even then, there is physically no place to put it unless you do some deep tunnel boring, which is big $$$ for a pointless project that just replicates what the subway already does. The money should go to things that don't already exist, like the Cross-Harbor tunnel, subway extensions in the outer boroughs, and TriboroRX. Why do you have such an objection to people with luggage on the subway? It works fine now. If there are capacity issues after CBTC is fully rolled out, get some articulated cars. That's a heck of a lot cheaper than building some new duplicative train that tries to re-do what the E and J trains already do. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Sun Sep 6 22:09:07 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 21:00:56 2015. Good points.Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 22:44:38 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 21:00:56 2015. Usually they have escalators, which the subways stations serving the JFK-GCT route have. I seem to think I've run into stairs in a few places in airports. I'm sure there was an ADA-compliant elevator somewhere, but that's irrelevant for the 99% of the population that doesn't need it and still has a roller bag and a backpack. You still have to get on and off busses at most airports. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Mon Sep 7 01:16:45 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:52:19 2015. agree on the objection to "air train everywhere". |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 02:41:17 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:52:19 2015. Oh I'm not a fan of expanding airtrain into the city, I think the current system works fine. I was just curious as to your thinking. I think you forgot the airtrain is PA and NYCT is MTA, so unless there's money from another agency involved, airtrain extensions wouldn't take any resources away from subway extensions. Also, I'm not against any luggage on the subway, but I am against requiring all airport travelers to use the subway which adds far more luggage than the subway and the stations could ever handle |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 02:44:47 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:36:20 2015. You're ignoring my point. Your methodoly is flawed. The type of service should not dictate whether a train has bathrooms or not; it should be the amount of time the avg passenger spends on the train. I only spend 40 mins on the LIRR but someone in Richmond Hills spends an hour. Why shouldn't they have a bathroom if I do for my shorter ride? |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 02:53:22 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:39:49 2015. Linden Blvd has a 6 lane center portion (3 in each direction) flanked by service roads on either side. Elevate the central portion with entrance/exit ramps to allow thru traffic continuous movement without having to stop at lights, eliminating congestion caused by the stop and go movement due to the lights, and making it safer because thru cars are now separated from pedestrians trying to cross what is now 8-10 lanes of traffic. You can place bike lanes under the elevated center lanes so they're totally separated from the traffic lanes (as should be done along Park Av and 3rd avenues in Brooklyn and anywhere else that there is space under and elevated highway or over a cut as well). |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 02:57:08 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:42:28 2015. I still don't see how the bridges over it and its current tunnels make it a "tangled twisted mess." You're going to have to explain that one more. And placing a roof over the cut actually protects the stations far more from the elements than leaving the cut open would. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 02:59:37 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:43:24 2015. Hope you don't own any business that needs the help of a plumber or electrician because they're going to pass that cost right on to you. Either that or you're now taking money away from hard working people who have no choice but to drive in order to provide you with a service. Sounds pretty selfish and self righteous to me that you'd have zero consideration for them. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 03:12:40 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:36:16 2015. Mazal tov. You like trains and you'll go out of your way to ride them. Other people actually have to get places in a timely and efficient manner and don't have time for a round about 4 leg ride with sightseeing in NYC while carrying 2 pieces of luggage. When you grow up, you'll understand what real life is |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 03:16:10 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 22:44:38 2015. Getting down 1 big step from the bus is nothing compared with getting up 20+ stairs with your suitcase. Again, most stations in NYC do not have escalators or elevators. You are absolutely ridiculous to continue arguing your horribly flawed way of thinking after several people have proven you wrong. Grow up |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 7 03:35:14 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu Sep 3 13:51:34 2015. Nope, that bad boy was spinning for all it was worth. Happens sometimes. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 7 03:36:28 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Thu Sep 3 16:23:30 2015. Yep, but as we learned with broken rails in the subways, flats on wheels are magical. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Sep 7 05:17:31 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 00:18:15 2015. Under the current regulations, it wouldn't have to, and it could be configured just like a subway car inside, even though it would be an FRA-compliant train on the outside.That's how I would imagine it. Something like an R-68 with regards to doors, length, and interior, but with better performance. :-) |
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Posted by subfan on Mon Sep 7 07:23:58 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:30:50 2015. I don't need to look at a map, as I'm quite familiar with the area. You're adding in a walk of just under three-quarters of a mile to your trip - something you might be willing to do, but the vast majority of people would not be interested in doing while carrying - or even wheeling - luggage. Therefore, using your personal experience to bolster your position is falacious.subfan |
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Posted by merrick1 on Mon Sep 7 08:37:46 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Sun Sep 6 21:26:26 2015. Truck traffic into New England can use I84 or I90. Rail traffic can use the Boston and Albany route or the Boston and Maine route via the Hoosac Tunnel. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Mon Sep 7 10:05:36 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 20:31:28 2015. bc i think it'll jump start redevelopment on the penninsular. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Sep 7 12:22:10 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 02:41:17 2015. Exactly. Take a look at airport taxi stands -- imagine all that baggage getting on the subway? It could work - but not right now - only after the subway improved. But how much and when will it improve with increased funding? This is the moot part of the discussion because only time would tell. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Sep 7 12:42:01 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Sep 6 20:51:26 2015. There are lots of exemptions, based on health of the commuter and the type of vehicle, and I think a whole lot more. The discounts are enormous, sometimes full.One thing to note is that the charge seems to be based on the day rather than number of times of entry. So a vehicle entering the zone several times pays as much as entering 1 time. Also, I don't think vehicles registered in or near the area pay. So you can conceivably register the vehicle to a site that doesn't have to pay the charge, but then I'm sure the insurance rates skyrocket. (I hear insurance in general around London is so expensive that that alone deters people from using cars). |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Mon Sep 7 13:08:09 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 02:41:17 2015. That's true, I knew they were different entities and fare structures, I wasn't thinking about that in relation to funding. Doesn't the PA have way deeper pockets than the MTA?The subways seem to work fine with everyone using them to get to the airport today. The percentage of lazy people using taxis today can't be very high, as taxis are crazy expensive compared to the combined fares of AirTrain and the subway. And if people want to pay a premium price, LIRR is available from Jamaica into Penn, and soon GCT. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Mon Sep 7 13:08:39 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 02:44:47 2015. FRA heavy rail should have bathrooms. Period. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Mon Sep 7 13:09:20 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 02:53:22 2015. And you think the people who live or have businesses along there are going to want an elevated highway? Yeah right. And it doesn't really increase capacity that much, even with reducing stoplights. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Mon Sep 7 13:09:49 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 02:59:37 2015. They'll just pass the savings on. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Mon Sep 7 13:11:26 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 03:12:40 2015. Then they'll pay more to fly out of a closer airport. Unless they're flying international, in which case they may have to go to JFK or BOS, and the public transit is still the most logical way to get there. It's not hard to navigate about anything with a standard suitcase, which is ever-shrinking, but I digress, and a backpack. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Mon Sep 7 13:16:07 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 03:16:10 2015. It's impossible to prove me wrong because I've actually used the subway with a full complement of luggage before (technically I probably had more than allowed, but no one seems to care that my backpack is full of crap), and BY FAR the hardest part of the luggage handling was trying to cram it into the bins on one of Delta's international 767's, where they didn't have big enough bins, and since it was a domestic flight with an international plane, people didn't get a checked bag, so it was quite chaotic. The subway was a BREEZE in comparison.The GCT-Jamaica route on the E train is fully escalatored as far as I remember. That being said, I have dragged my suitcase up 2+ stories in airports or other venues where there were no escalators (I am sure the escalators were somewhere, but not where I needed to go), and it's not that big of a deal. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Mon Sep 7 13:22:39 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by 3-9 on Mon Sep 7 05:17:31 2015. I imagined it more like an R-142/A interior, but I guess with the width slightly wider than the B division cars, it might make sense to have some sideways seats like the B division cars have. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Mon Sep 7 13:28:03 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by subfan on Mon Sep 7 07:23:58 2015. Then stop saying there is no connection. There is an easy connection, it just has a short walk in the middle of it. The Silver Line is more direct if you're in a hurry or it's raining.If you are so lazy that you can't walk 3/4 of a mile with a roller bag and a backpack, then you've got bigger problems, since some of the major airports have connections that are longer than that. Once I had a 31 minute connection at DTW that was more than 3/4 of a mile in McNamara terminal. And I'm not even in good shape, but it's still not hard. What about someone staying in NYC? It could easily be a mile to their hotel, and that's not worth getting on the subway for. Heck, sometimes it several blocks from the subway to where they are going. |
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Posted by ElectricTraction on Mon Sep 7 13:32:25 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by merrick1 on Mon Sep 7 08:37:46 2015. I'm not saying that we would starve to death, but those routes are WAY longer, so the available trucks and drivers would be tied up routing around the GWB such that a good chunk of the freight that normally moves in would just sit in Newark or the various DCs in North Jersey. It would be an economic disaster if it was blocked for more than a couple of days. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Sep 7 13:49:58 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ntrainride on Mon Sep 7 10:05:36 2015. It may have the opposite effect. Right now Rockaway residents have a subway fare to get into manhattan or downtown Bkln. They will not be pleased with a higher LIRR scale fare and a more restrictive set of Manhattan and Bkln locations. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 14:02:29 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Mon Sep 7 13:08:39 2015. Why? Why does a train traveling less time have to have a bathroom than a train traveling more time? What is the reason? How does it make sense? |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 14:04:45 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Mon Sep 7 13:09:20 2015. And you think people who live along the Bay Ridge want to see more trains coming through there? No, there's NIMBYs with every project. Both of these are relatively low impact on the community. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 14:05:28 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Mon Sep 7 13:09:20 2015. And you're saying that if the LIE had traffic lights, it wouldn't reduce the capacity much or have any major effect on the flow of traffic? |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 14:06:04 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Mon Sep 7 13:09:49 2015. What savings? |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 14:07:14 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Sep 7 12:42:01 2015. Thank you for the info. Glad to see it was implemented with some degree of common sense which seems to be lacking from certain posters here. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Sep 7 14:09:49 2015, in response to Re: Someone remind me, what is the point of light rail again?, posted by ElectricTraction on Mon Sep 7 13:08:09 2015. You'd be wrong on your perception of taxi use compared to public transit use. Head over to JFK yourself some time. Right next to the bus/limo layover lot there is a taxi holding facility that is huge. And perhaps the current volume currently using mass transit is fine, but to throw in all the additional volume from all the taxis is going to be impossible. |
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