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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Sep 3 16:22:39 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Sep 2 20:05:35 2015. Interesting maybe, but the article contained no new information at all. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Sep 3 17:00:21 2015, in response to Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Tue Sep 1 23:34:27 2015. ASNA!!! (Aw Shit Not Again!) |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Sep 3 17:05:35 2015, in response to Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Tue Sep 1 23:34:27 2015. ASNA!!! (Aw Shit Not Again!) |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Sep 3 17:16:23 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Thu Sep 3 08:28:09 2015. I was wondering how much longer this beast would lie dormant! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 3 17:17:24 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Express Rider on Thu Sep 3 13:45:06 2015. I don't think she did, it was mostly about teeyay folks, what they do and their stories. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 3 17:21:12 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 3 09:29:44 2015. And thanks to the internet, there's proff for every rumor out there and arguments on both sides of it. :) |
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Posted by zac on Thu Sep 3 17:30:05 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Sep 3 15:42:57 2015. It would seem to me that just drilling a 1" hole and dropping a light and camera through it would be sufficient. Of course, drilling a 1" hole would be difficult enough, and watch out for sewer, gas and electrical. Nobody really has to go down there. Or do it at the bulkhead... |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Sep 3 18:46:27 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Express Rider on Thu Sep 3 15:59:35 2015. I knew George Horn and he did not begin as an IND employee in the 1930s. He started as a trolley M/M immediately post WWII and after being promoted to M/M spent a brief time on the BMT before transferring to his first choice of division, the IND. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Sep 3 20:31:18 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Sep 3 17:16:23 2015. It never lies dormant for very long.:) |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Sep 3 23:28:22 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Sep 3 17:16:23 2015. There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known... It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, That's a signpost up ahead: your next stop: 76th St! |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Sep 3 23:31:28 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by randyo on Thu Sep 3 18:46:27 2015. Got my facts wrong... misheard originally and then mis-remembered. Thanks for the corrections. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 4 07:37:17 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by zac on Thu Sep 3 17:30:05 2015. Which is why your idea is unfeasible. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 4 07:38:39 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Sep 3 16:22:39 2015. Thank you Captain Obviuos. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Fri Sep 4 10:06:50 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Sep 3 16:22:39 2015. The only thing that's going to provide new information is if someone can be bothered to do a GPR survey of Pitkin Avenue. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Sep 4 10:20:49 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 3 17:17:24 2015. no she doesn`t.I met her several years ago and told her what I know about 76st. as well as other "lost" tunnels. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Sep 4 10:34:38 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Joe V on Wed Sep 2 16:26:50 2015. joe v.raskin did not contact me about this which imonsho was a big mistake.he failed to include the wealth of info that I have posted here that I have personaly seen and has been proven to be fact. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Fri Sep 4 11:36:32 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by kew gardens teleport on Fri Sep 4 10:06:50 2015. That's what I mentioned but someone said it costs money and you need a professional to decipher the readings ....... not the new GPS is very simple to operate but yea the cost is high. Karl |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Sep 4 12:24:20 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Sep 3 20:31:18 2015. Do you think that some people here would be content to say that there's probably just a station shell there- and little else? NNNNNOOOOOOO!!! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Sep 4 12:26:18 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Fri Sep 4 11:36:32 2015. Any idea what a GPS reading would cost? |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Sep 4 12:28:18 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Sep 4 12:26:18 2015. GPR- sorry! |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Sep 4 14:02:45 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 4 07:38:39 2015. You're welcome, Lieutenant Loony Tune. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Fri Sep 4 14:07:43 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Fri Sep 4 11:36:32 2015. how about we all chip in, or do a kickstarter. A lot of the railfans would chip in some. |
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Posted by Asgard on Fri Sep 4 14:49:25 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Sep 4 14:07:43 2015. One of the many times this has come up before, someone cited a price. I don't have time to look for the posting now.But I'll stand by what I said at the time: I'm in for $300. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Fri Sep 4 14:51:23 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Express Rider on Thu Sep 3 23:28:22 2015. From a previous message:"There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known... It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, That's a signpost up ahead: your next stop: 76th St!" It would be just our luck that the aliens are in control of the station, the gremlins control the switch machine, and all of the railroad clerks look like Hugh Jackman!!! Mike |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Sep 4 17:00:08 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Asgard on Fri Sep 4 14:49:25 2015. I'll also be willing to chip in $300. Anyone else? |
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Posted by Express Rider on Fri Sep 4 23:54:26 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Michael549 on Fri Sep 4 14:51:23 2015. :-) |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Sep 5 18:00:14 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Wed Sep 2 23:32:03 2015. Nobody could shit you, you're to big of a turd! |
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Posted by zac on Sun Sep 6 21:33:09 2015, in response to Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Tue Sep 1 23:34:27 2015. So I took a ride down to 76th St and Pitkin today, coming from Cross Bay on my bike and these are my observations:1. Pitkin Ave gets wider at 77th St or thereabouts when you are coming from the east. Much wider, enough for a 4 track subway underneath. Up until that point it is just an average two way street. 2. There was at least one corner building on a cross street that looks as if the adjoining building had been torn down, except that there was no room for an adjoining building, again, maybe to widen the street for a 4 track subway underneath. 3. There were some grates at Conduit that seemed out of place. 4. At Grant Ave, the grates go straight along Pitkin, even though the tracks angle off. This could also just be up to the bulkhead. 5. At 74th St the deli looks like it has a subway entrance next to it, except it isn't. 6. The bus driver behind me was getting impatient that I was looking around and not just moving. My own conclusion is that the street was at least readied for building the subway, whether anything was ever dug out is inconclusive based on what I saw. I'm sure I'm not the first person to see this. Here's a speculation though, maybe there was a coverup because they forced people out of their homes and then didn't build it. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Sep 6 22:26:34 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by zac on Sun Sep 6 21:33:09 2015. no coverup,just a really good april fools day joke. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Sep 6 22:30:54 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Sep 4 14:02:45 2015. You admit that you are Captain Obvious. I do not admit that I am Loony, as I am no such thing, and you can't find and prove a single example of such. Try to stick with the truth - it's much easier to prove. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Sep 6 22:32:57 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by zac on Sun Sep 6 21:33:09 2015. I believe the bulkhead wall is just shy of Eldert Lane beneath Pitkin Avenue. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Sep 6 23:05:48 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by G1Ravage on Sun Sep 6 22:32:57 2015. it is at elderts lane. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Sep 7 14:19:03 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by zac on Sun Sep 6 21:33:09 2015. If you had been following some of my posts on the topic. you might have seen several items about the area that it takes a bit of research to discover. Until the IND subway came into the area, Pitkin Av ended at the city line and its current path was blocked by private property. The Current path of Pitkin Av east of 79 St is actually the continuation of another street called South Rd which explains why the current path of Pitkin Av angles slightly south at the point. From City Line to 79 St Pitkin Av was through routed to meet with the routing of South and make a continuos thoroughfare much the same way that 6 Av in Manhattan was through routes between W 3 St and Canal when that portion of the IND was built. At the time of the construction of the subway through that area there were no homes for people to be forced out of. Unfortunately, while checking the NYC archives for aerial photos of the area, there seems to be a gap between 1930 when the street did not go through and 1950 when it did, so I was unable to find the exact date of the through routing. In any case it does seem that Pitkin Av was through routed with South Road for the specific purpose of providing a through street for the subway to pass under. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Mon Sep 7 15:58:31 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by randyo on Mon Sep 7 14:19:03 2015. I have looked here, but maybe you can find something.http://www.historicaerials.com/?java script |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 7 17:45:12 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by randyo on Mon Sep 7 14:19:03 2015. The Q-7 Bus was extended to Euclid Ave I believe at about the same time IND service to Euclid Ave started.The Q-7 Bus travels that Pitkin Ave to South Rd connection. It may be those events coincide. Heavy emphasis on may be. Perhaps a BUSCHAT maven can help out here. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Sep 7 19:53:30 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 7 17:45:12 2015. it is OLD south rd,not south road.south road is in south Jamaica,old south road is not. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Sep 7 21:09:03 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by randyo on Mon Sep 7 14:19:03 2015. I went on the Brooklyn Eagle website and found something interesting on page 57 of the Sept 23, 1928 edition. The second column lists a house at 79th St and Pitkin Ave. After Pitkin Ave, there is Old South Road in parenthesis |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Mon Sep 7 22:25:16 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Sep 7 19:53:30 2015. LOL! |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Sep 8 13:12:58 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Sep 7 19:53:30 2015. Thanks for the clarification. I tend to get South Rd and Old South Rd confused as to which is which. |
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Posted by VictorM on Tue Sep 8 21:16:48 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Sep 3 15:42:57 2015. Another problem is, according to most alleged eye witness accounts, only the west end of the station was built. Was 76 St supposed to be the east end of the station, the west end, or the middle? If it was the east end, the west end would be at Drew St, which is only 500 feet from the current bulkhead at Eldert Lane. The GPR survey would have to start at Drew St or even Eldert Lane and proceed east from there, a potential time consuming and expensive process. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Sep 8 21:23:52 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by VictorM on Tue Sep 8 21:16:48 2015. The proposed route shows a 75th St station, so maybe it was supposed to be between those two streets 75th & 76th- like anyone cares! |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Wed Sep 9 11:45:33 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by VictorM on Tue Sep 8 21:16:48 2015. 1st it was 75st then it shows up on later maps as 76st.which eyewitness accounts are you talking about?everyone that has been in there says the the true eastern station station was fully framed out and the true western station was only partially built.WW2 stopped all subway construction in new York.iirc may 8th.1942 |
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Posted by VictorM on Wed Sep 9 12:31:09 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by tunnelrat on Wed Sep 9 11:45:33 2015. Are you saying there was a gap in tunnel construction on Pitkin Av between 76 St and around Eldert Lane, or did the tunnel extend all the way to 76 St with no gaps? |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Wed Sep 9 12:58:52 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by VictorM on Wed Sep 9 12:31:09 2015. tunnel extends to 79st with no gaps. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Wed Sep 9 13:36:35 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by tunnelrat on Wed Sep 9 12:58:52 2015. wouldn't there somewhere be documents for the construction. Maybe at the NYTM archives? I hope so. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Sep 9 14:29:08 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Sep 6 22:30:54 2015. What you consider the truth and what is reality are two vastly different things. You live in your own world of passive-aggressive obnoxiousness, and you're welcome to stay there. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Sep 9 14:54:04 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Union Tpke on Wed Sep 9 13:36:35 2015. It all depends on whether there was a coverup and how serious it was. I have seen plans for the BMT 4 Av subway S/O 59 St which as most people may know is half of a 4 track subway as far as 86 St. The existing 2 tracks of the subways would have become the S/B lcl and exp tracks of a 4 track subway if the N/B side had ever been built. The only easily observable evidence of the N/B tracks is the short section N/O 69 St where from a N/B train, the trackways of the proposed N/B tracks may be seen. The plans show no construction of any kind other than the afore mentioned section ever having been built yet there are supposed to be short sections of subway tunnel for the N/B tracks at various places along 4 Av in Bay Ridge. According to an old PSC report I have seen about the construction of the 4 Av subway, When Bkln Edison was building circuit breaker chambers in the area, the company was requested to build them as sections of subway tunnel in the even they would need to be captured for rapid transit use. That they were not specifically built for subway construction per se seems to account for the reason that the tA has no actual records of their construction or existence. It could be possible that due to various other construction projects in the area of 76 St at the time that the parts of 76 St station that were built were built by a contractor not directly associated with the B of T and therefore, the NYCTA would not necessarily have any records of its existence. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Sep 9 17:19:03 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by randyo on Tue Sep 8 13:12:58 2015. What he said. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Wed Sep 9 21:25:01 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Sep 9 14:29:08 2015. What you consider the truth and what is reality are two vastly different things. You live in your own world of passive-aggressive obnoxiousnessConsidering that what you just said is 100% false, I think you need to STFU and check your sanity. I can't believe you're actually a lawyer. I really can't. Because you're about as dumb as they come. Remember, you can't find and prove a single example of me being Loony. Try to stick with the truth - it's much easier to prove. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Sep 10 00:38:44 2015, in response to Re: Warning! This Post is About 76th Street, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Wed Sep 9 21:25:01 2015. I don't care what you believe. You are a sick, sick man and an opinionated asshole to boot. |
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