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Posted by caine515 on Sat Aug 29 12:48:29 2015 im reading of a g.O. to eventually begin on the J/M/Z line and wondering how major it's supposed to be that R32 would be going to the M line. Any information is appreciated. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 29 13:01:38 2015, in response to Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by caine515 on Sat Aug 29 12:48:29 2015. I have heard 3rd hand all R32's move to the M around when the J's supply would have been heading back to the C. They supposedly want a lightweight car on the M since the Myrtle cut is concrete, it is falling apart, and new concrete has to set.Standing on Jamaica A around the Rockaway Line crossing, the el is pretty high up. I have pretty good ears. I find the R32's to be the least noisy, the R42's the nosiest, the R160's somewhere in between. If the noise is a function of weight and/or vibration, they are making the right decision. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Aug 29 16:15:13 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 29 13:01:38 2015. The R-32s were even lighter when they were new - minus the air conditioning. |
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Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sat Aug 29 21:07:02 2015, in response to Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by caine515 on Sat Aug 29 12:48:29 2015. WHERE ARE YOU READING THIS???? WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? PLEASE PROVIDE A URL AND/OR A LINK AND ******BACKGROUND INFO*******. |
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Posted by CJ on Sun Aug 30 01:28:32 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 29 13:01:38 2015. I've also heard this same reason why R32s are heading onto the M. I also presume new signs will be fitted to the R32s for service on the M. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 01:36:29 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 29 13:01:38 2015. Curiosity question. "Myrtle cut?" Is this the portion of the ramp down by Fresh Pond yard? Only operated out to Metro once by a reroute, so don't know the features of the upper Myrt very well after all these years. Where's the concrete portion that's having issues? Trying to remember the location.That's going to be some real downtime when they get around to fixing it. :( |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 07:34:34 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sat Aug 29 21:07:02 2015. Yes of course, the TA always puts out "links" to the public when they move rolling stock around. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 30 08:35:36 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 01:36:29 2015. I believe we're talking about the now-101-y.o. connection at Broadway. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 30 08:45:17 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 30 08:35:36 2015. I think so, too. There is a short concrete viaduct where the connector leaves the Broadway el. |
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Posted by caine515 on Sun Aug 30 09:42:48 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sat Aug 29 21:07:02 2015. It was discussed on nyctf. Nothing major just questions. |
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Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M |
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Posted by MTA T on Sun Aug 30 09:49:41 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by caine515 on Sun Aug 30 09:42:48 2015. Bruh he questions everything. You can't escape. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 30 09:53:31 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by CJ on Sun Aug 30 01:28:32 2015. They already have those illegible front pixel signs as well as side destination signs. If anything they may need orange Moe side route signs. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 09:57:38 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 30 09:53:31 2015. Either they patch the M or the V route sign.Then they will have to add either Metro Ave or Forest Hills to the south sign, unless they just paste decals inside the sign windows. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 30 15:17:32 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 09:57:38 2015. Good point. I'm sure the upper curtain has both Metropolitan Ave, and Forest Hills signs, but not the bottom curtain. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 15:35:08 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 30 15:17:32 2015. Probably better bet to put display Metro Av on the south sign. The IND destination could vary given emergencies to be Queens Plaza, 179th, or Archer. Right after Sandy, some M's got to IND-Jamaica. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Aug 30 15:42:31 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 15:35:08 2015. Considering that Metro is a SOUTH terminal that makes sense. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 15:47:59 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by randyo on Sun Aug 30 15:42:31 2015. This gets confusing. The J still considers north and south bound as though it were the QJ. I thought the M was opposite. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 30 16:35:58 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 15:47:59 2015. It is now. Northbound (M) trains from Essex Street to Myrtle Ave. use the same track as Southbound (J) trains, and vice-versa. I imagine that arrangement plays merry hob with the tower operators and train dispatchers... |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 16:47:35 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by caine515 on Sun Aug 30 09:42:48 2015. It was discussed on nyctf.So then say that! And if it is being discussed there, then why not simply ask your questions there??? What, you don't trust those geniuses? |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 16:47:58 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 07:34:34 2015. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 16:54:59 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 07:34:34 2015. With stupid requests like:"WHERE ARE YOU READING THIS???? WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? PLEASE PROVIDE A URL AND/OR A LINK AND ******BACKGROUND INFO*******. " you don't. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 17:00:08 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 16:54:59 2015. Talking to yourself? LOL! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 17:04:42 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 30 08:35:36 2015. Ah ... thanks! Hopefully Wallyhorse can talk them into rehabbing the upper level so service can continue while they fix that. :) |
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Posted by VictorM on Sun Aug 30 17:47:11 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 30 16:35:58 2015. Actually, it's just the opposite. M trains going from Essex to Myrtle are considered going southbound (since Metropolitan Av is south of 71 Av), while J trains going from Essex to Myrtle are considered going northbound, at least according to the MTA's timetables. |
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Posted by CJ on Sun Aug 30 17:49:01 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sat Aug 29 21:07:02 2015. It's a shame you don't have any decency to properly post, instead of post this garbage in all caps. The proper way you could of asked was this.caine515, sir where did you get the information from? If it's available somewhere, do you think you can please provide a link/URL. ^ That's how you ask someone, respectfully and calmly. Too bad you don't know the meaning of respect. |
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Posted by CJ on Sun Aug 30 17:53:31 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 07:34:34 2015. Joe, this is the same so called genius that claims to knows everything. Just weed out the dumb in this community and move on.That's why I laugh at fans who claim they know everything. It's quite hilarious and it's fun to play with them too. :) |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 18:06:13 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by VictorM on Sun Aug 30 17:47:11 2015. But what is it on the employee timetables ?Customer timetable would be more like compass direction to the lay person. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 18:07:58 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by CJ on Sun Aug 30 17:53:31 2015. You are so right. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 18:09:05 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by CJ on Sun Aug 30 17:49:01 2015. When one assumes he is entertaining to all, including himself, that fits his definition of respect. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 30 18:16:18 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by VictorM on Sun Aug 30 17:47:11 2015. To understand railroad directions on the BMT, you need to remember that pre-Unification the BRT and BMT were west-east, not north-south. The west terminals were Park Row/Fulton Ferry and Chambers Street/Broadway Ferry.West became north and east became south. So Metropolitan Ave., Jamaica and Lefferts Blvd. were all East now South terminals. Remember we're talking about railroad directions, not public timetables. If you have any doubt, remember that on the BMT and IND, 1 and 3 tracks are heading railroad south and 2 and 4 are railroad north. This messes up compass directions some, but we're running a railroad, not navigating a ship. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 18:49:17 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 18:07:58 2015. Actually he's so wrong. And so are you. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 30 19:29:32 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by VictorM on Sun Aug 30 17:47:11 2015. Moe is about ready to blow a gasket right about now.:) |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Sun Aug 30 19:53:18 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by VictorM on Sun Aug 30 17:47:11 2015. Thats correct from Myrtle Av to Essex track 1 (towards Manhattan) the M is Northbound and J is southbound. Metro is considered the M south terminal. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 20:41:36 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 18:09:05 2015. WRONG. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 30 20:42:08 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by ftgreeneg on Sun Aug 30 19:53:18 2015. Thats correct from Myrtle Av to Essex track 1 (towards Manhattan)You have it backwards. Myrtle to Essex is J2, because it is heading railroad north. Jamaica may be the north terminal on the public timetable, but it is railroad south on the railroad, as is Euclid Ave. to Lefferts Blvd. (K1). |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 20:42:14 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by CJ on Sun Aug 30 17:49:01 2015. You're out of your element here, Donny. There's a history and a reason. It's an inside joke that you're not privy too. Don't feel bad. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 30 20:43:03 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 17:04:42 2015. I'd like that. :) |
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Posted by CJ on Sun Aug 30 20:49:45 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 18:07:58 2015. Yep, cause really I already know the truth. The only reason this thread even happened is because a question about information from NYCTF was asked.It's only a matter of time before Subchat becomes more and more deserted, especially with users like Terrapin Station and WillD acting like they float 10,000 feet above everyone. Even users who use to regularly contribute around here have left, because of those two so called transit fans or whatever anyone wants to call them. The couple of things that keeps Subchat running are when really good questions about historical transit equipment, lines, etc. or when someone asks a question about something they heard from either Facebook or NYCTF. That's it really. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 21:02:08 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 30 20:43:03 2015. It was mighty shaky up there even with wooden cars. :) |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Aug 30 21:10:31 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by VictorM on Sun Aug 30 17:47:11 2015. What about when trains from Myrtle are rerouted to Chambers? Is that northbound or southbound? |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 30 21:24:17 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 21:02:08 2015. I remember. Maybe if they went real ...s...l...o...w...? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 21:40:34 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 30 21:24:17 2015. Still wobbled a lot. And they did. :) |
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Posted by VictorM on Sun Aug 30 22:09:19 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 30 18:16:18 2015. It's my understanding that on the BMT, at least after unification, everything going from Manhattan to Brooklyn was considered southbound; in the other direction it was condidered northbound. This created an interesting problem when they had the Nassau loop operation. A loop train passing through Chambers St would change its subway direction without changing its physical direction. Strictly speaking the Jamaica bound J should be considered southbound, but I think it's listed as northbound in the public timetable because that's the compass direction it mostly follows in Manhattan. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 31 10:33:18 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by VictorM on Sun Aug 30 22:09:19 2015. The railroad direction at Chambers Street changes at the south end of Chambers Street, and has since 1931.The BRT/BMT had other situations where trains changed railroad directions: the Franklin-Nassau at Coney Island, for example, or Broadway L / Fulton L off-hour trains at the ENY Loop. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 31 14:13:32 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 30 09:57:38 2015. Are there even enough R32's to cover the whole M line? |
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Posted by chud1 on Mon Aug 31 14:51:02 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by CJ on Sun Aug 30 20:49:45 2015. i ignore terrapin station.chud1. :)..... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 31 15:10:50 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by chud1 on Mon Aug 31 14:51:02 2015. That's how you do it. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 31 16:51:37 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by VictorM on Sun Aug 30 22:09:19 2015. When I started working for the TA in 1966, the rule was that trains passing through Bkln enroute to Manhattan were northbound regardless of point of origin. All Eastern Division outer terminals were therefore south terminals. The change was made first with the QJ when it was through routed to the Brighton Line and it then became southbound towards Stl and northbound towards Jamaica. When the M became the Brighton Lcl, tin then became south to Stl and north to Met but the QJ, now renamed the J since it was truncated at Broad St was not changed back. The KK and subsequent K remained northbound to Manhattan until the cessation of service in 1976. Since the M is now correctly northbound to Manhattan, I have felt that the J should also be changed back to its pre Chrystie direction but nobody at the MTA seems to have enough sense to make the change. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 31 16:52:59 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 30 20:42:08 2015. Although you are correct in that Jamaica should be considered RR south like Met, the TA still erroneously considers it RR north. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 31 16:54:09 2015, in response to Re: Future G.O. on J/M/Z..R32 to M, posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Aug 30 21:10:31 2015. Considering that such an operation is a supplement to the normal timetable, to Chambers is still considered northbound. |
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