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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Apr 22 16:41:05 2015, in response to Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 22 15:52:10 2015. The Jackson Heights neighborhood map is missing. |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Wed Apr 22 17:21:50 2015, in response to Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 22 15:52:10 2015. Screencap from the legend:And from the Bensonhurst map: Am I missing something, or shouldn't there be a symbol indicating the exit at Highlawn Avenue? |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Apr 22 18:05:25 2015, in response to Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 22 15:52:10 2015. I notice now it forces you to download everything. Can't simply open it in the browser? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 22 18:19:14 2015, in response to Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 22 15:52:10 2015. The Riverdale map is amusing. So now Fieldston is Mosholu? Lulz. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 22 18:19:55 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Apr 22 18:05:25 2015. They're all PDF maps, looks like perhaps you don't have a working PDF plugin for your browser. Works fine in KNOS. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Apr 22 18:49:56 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 22 18:19:55 2015. That's odd, everything was working up until a day or two ago. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 22 18:57:49 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Apr 22 18:49:56 2015. Maybe the plugin has been neutered and needs an update. In KNOS, the browser opens PDF's in a separate viewer that just pops up. I have this thing about Adobe products running in browsers, but it's seamless. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Apr 22 19:01:55 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 22 18:57:49 2015. I reactivated the plug-in, and it's working now.I also updated to the latest version, and now I can't figure out how to utilize the "hand" in-browser to move around the large files. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 22 19:23:41 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Apr 22 19:01:55 2015. Adobe plugin? Not really sure. In KNOS, we use "Evince" for the PDF viewer and that works with the thumbwheel to zoom and you just hold the left key on the rodent and scroll around. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 22 19:24:13 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 22 18:57:49 2015. Glad you got it though. |
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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Wed Apr 22 21:03:30 2015, in response to Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 22 15:52:10 2015. I could swear that the 63rd Drive exit was almost at the west end of the Manhattan-bound platform. The map shows the station box extending half a block west. Granted I haven't been there since 1988, but I don't think my memory has faded that much. |
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Posted by gbs on Wed Apr 22 21:58:16 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Wed Apr 22 21:03:30 2015. You are correct: the western exits at 63 Dr are at the west end of the platforms. In general, the station boxes seem to be drawn too long, possibly because they're also drawn too wide, so to keep them in some proportion, they're exaggerated. But the important thing is that the exits are correctly positioned vis-à-vis the street corners.The 63 Dr platforms, like a few other IND platforms (169 St (F)) are shorter than a 10-car train, and the 10-car marker is actually past the station platform and is in the tunnel. Why these few stations were built too short is a mystery to me; there is no structural reason why they couldn't have been built full-length. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 22 22:40:10 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 22 18:19:14 2015. Yeah, thats my nabe. I think they got that from old Hagstrom maps, which had the same mistake. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 22 22:44:50 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 22 18:19:14 2015. Riverdale's map also shows streets that don't exist, and misses streets that do exist. It has the wrong location for Riverdalee Country School, and shows one park at least 5 times larger than it is. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 22 22:50:41 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 22 22:40:10 2015. Other side of Van Cortlandt. Gotta love it. No surprise with Hagstrom, before all the giant buildings went up, that section there by Manhattan College was easy to get lost in. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 22 22:51:30 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 22 22:44:50 2015. Yeah, now that you mention it, went back and looked and yup. I didn't bother zooming in on much once I saw Mosholu there. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 22 22:58:34 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Wed Apr 22 17:21:50 2015. There seem to be a lot of mistakes with entrances and exits. The #1 station at 231st fails to show the handicapped elevators, that were built at least 4 years ago. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 22 23:00:14 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 22 22:51:30 2015. Yikes. I just noticed they have Kingsbridge Heights in 2 separate places - one in the right place, and the other in Kingsbridge. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 22 23:08:58 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 22 22:58:34 2015. Well ... you know how it goes. You only go to the Bronx to die so I imagine other than contractors, not many MTA wigs have been there. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 22 23:09:57 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 22 23:00:14 2015. Heh. Yeah, since I lived over in Norwood for a while, checked that out as well. Ah well ... maybe it's best for people to get lost, get back on the train once they find their way back and go home. Heh. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Apr 23 07:45:04 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 22 22:58:34 2015. And look at the Concouse D stations, including 182-183, Fordham, and KingsBridge - same mistakes for 25 years. |
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Posted by GIS Man on Thu Apr 23 08:50:42 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 22 23:09:57 2015. Was that area known as "Norwood" before the MTA added that name to the 205th Street station?Bob |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Apr 23 08:56:15 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Apr 22 16:41:05 2015. The link for the Bed-Stuy map send me to the Bensonhurst one. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 23 10:54:31 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Apr 23 08:56:15 2015. I would call that the Honeymooners bug. |
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Posted by The Silence on Thu Apr 23 11:07:58 2015, in response to Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 22 15:52:10 2015. The person who updated these maps didn't do the best of jobs.I've found over a dozen mistakes on the Ridgewood Map alone. The Ridgewood Theater (not Cinema #1) has been closed for years and is being gutted for an apartment building but is still listed (#2) Post offices are all wrong The Ridgewood Post office is not on Cypress Avenue, it's at Myrtle and Decatur. The "Glendale post office" shown is a "Finance branch". Glendale shares 11385 with Ridgewood. The post office is also on the next block, next door to the famed Zum Stammtisch german restaurant. And if the Glendale branch gets shown, why are they leaving out the branch on Woodbine Street of Fresh Pond? Schools & Churches St. Aloysius School (DeKalb & Seneca) was closed in 2009, demolished and a City school is currently being built in it's place. St. Aloysius itself is on the other side of Stanhope. It anchors the Stockholm Street Historic District. St. Pancras School is across the street from it's associated church, not on the same block. Holy Cross School closed in the mid-2000s. Does not show my grade school at all, formerly Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal, now Notre Dame Catholic Academy. The Maspeth Jewish Center on Grand Ave is across the street and a block over from where it's shown (the noted location is a Key Food) The United Presbyterian Church of Ridgewood moved from 60th place (where they moved to I never found out) and a Coptic Orthodox church moved in. the B13 terminates at DeKalb, not Stanhope. What the map denotes as "Starr Playground" is the not open to the public athletic field for Grover Cleveland High School. The real Star Playground is not even actually shown as a park. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 23 15:13:42 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by The Silence on Thu Apr 23 11:07:58 2015. Yes, it's a real botch job. The Riverdale Press is going to do a story on the mistakes in Riverdale. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 23 15:16:59 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 23 15:13:42 2015. Do you have an in with them? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 23 15:18:02 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 23 15:13:42 2015. These maps have been botched for as long as I've been in NYC and probably since they were first made. It's nothing new. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 23 15:19:22 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 23 15:16:59 2015. No, just sent the info to their news editor. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 23 15:22:37 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 23 15:19:22 2015. Ok. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 23 16:25:53 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by GIS Man on Thu Apr 23 08:50:42 2015. Yep. That little triangle surrounded by park and parkway. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 23 16:34:39 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 23 15:13:42 2015. Cool beans! Glad to hear they're still in print. When I was a kid back in 1961, I drew political cartoons for them when Dave and Celia Stein owned it. At the time they were on Irwin Ave, below the strip mall above on Riverdale Ave. So a trip down nostalgia lane, I see they moved off the hill a long time ago. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 23 16:40:15 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 23 16:34:39 2015. Buddy Stein is still the publisher, though it's now owned by another local newspaper company based on Long Island. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 23 17:10:14 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 23 16:40:15 2015. Heh. I grew up with him! I figured they'd changed hands a LONG time ago when I saw the white building there by 242 years ago. Glad to see that they're still around! Community papers like Bronx Home News and Norwood Press are long since gone or consolidated into "not really a newspaper anymore." |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Apr 23 17:29:42 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 23 15:18:02 2015. And I will have a blog post on this, hopefully tonight. They haven't leaned from the original maps of 1985 |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 23 19:03:02 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 23 17:10:14 2015. They actually only changed hands about 5 years ago. They still are a pretty decent local rag, winning NY State community newspaper prizes most years. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 23 19:15:00 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 23 19:03:02 2015. When the paper opened up originally in the early 1950's, they were in this building on Riverdale Ave up near 238th:View Larger Map The apartment building next to the old Riverdale Press building was once a private home belonging to the Nasser family (yeah, THAT Nasser family) and eventually they sold and moved out around 1968. Later, the Riverdale Press moved to a larger space down on Fieldston Rd: View Larger Map |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 23 19:25:37 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 23 19:15:00 2015. And later they moved to Broadway above 242 St., which building was firebombed 20 or 30 years ago. Now they are on Riverdale Ave at 259th. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Apr 23 19:46:24 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by gbs on Wed Apr 22 21:58:16 2015. I thought that in the 1950s, the E and F ran 11 car trains. How would that have impacted on opening at 169 St? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 23 19:53:57 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 23 19:25:37 2015. I remember hearing about that. I went on a google street map caper and found the building where I grew up. I'm amazed there isn't a megalith in the old lot behind it. Riverdale used to be mostly private homes and small buildings. Looks more like the upper east side now. :(View Larger Map And despite the accuracy of google being what it is, it's actually 3656 Johnson. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Apr 23 20:36:33 2015, in response to Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 22 15:52:10 2015. Gerber's World on these so-called "new" maps. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 23 21:00:19 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 23 19:53:57 2015. I know that street well. But I couldn't find the plaque with your name on it. :-) |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Apr 23 21:08:31 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 23 19:53:57 2015. "The Oxford House", huh? Why do developers love those British names? I guess they can call it that because Oxford Avenue is on one side. My folks live on Cambridge Ave., the street just east of Oxford, just south of 235th. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 23 21:16:59 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 23 21:00:19 2015. Not likely to happen either. :)Sadly, across the street from there before those townhouses were built was a wonderful steep hill with a nice farm house on the top. It was the absolute greatest for sledding in winter. Even had a recess before the land rose back up to the sidewalk so you could stop before getting to the street. Man, that place is all built up now. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 23 21:18:23 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Apr 23 21:08:31 2015. And it's a rather old building before that came into Vogue. Landlord lived upstairs from us too back then. Rosenberg was their name. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Apr 23 21:19:03 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 23 10:54:31 2015. Now it links to Bay Ridge. |
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Posted by gbs on Thu Apr 23 21:20:31 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by randyo on Thu Apr 23 19:46:24 2015. Maybe because 169 St is a local stop it was not designed for 11-car trains? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 23 23:29:19 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 23 21:16:59 2015. No farmhouses left in Riverdale now. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 24 00:08:02 2015, in response to Re: Neighborhood Maps, posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 23 23:29:19 2015. Nope. That's for sure. :( |
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