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PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by chuchubob on Mon Dec 1 09:26:57 2014 Keystone Service trains are usually five-car push-pull trains between New York and Harrisburg. The trains that I saw on Sunday all had an extra car (or two).Photos at North Philly Station Train 664 with six cars and ACS-64 #600 "David L. Gunn" pushing.   Train 43 Pennsylvanian, New York to Pittsburgh, normally has six cars; it had seven on Sunday.  Keystone Service train 666 had six cars.   Train 665 had seven cars.  
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by JAzumah on Mon Dec 1 10:08:43 2014, in response to PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by chuchubob on Mon Dec 1 09:26:57 2014. The "David L Gunn" is a nice touch. |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 1 11:49:39 2014, in response to PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by chuchubob on Mon Dec 1 09:26:57 2014. Is that original Metroliner stock? |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Dec 1 11:59:36 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 1 11:49:39 2014. All of the end cars are, as is the car immediately adjacent to ACS 612 |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 1 12:15:58 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by R30A on Mon Dec 1 11:59:36 2014. They old. I imagine they use them as push-pull cabs? |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by chuchubob on Mon Dec 1 12:41:33 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 1 12:15:58 2014. Exactly. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 1 12:52:47 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 1 12:15:58 2014. Indeed so.Rather ignoble end to a train originally promised to run at 160 miles per hour, isn't it? |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 1 14:17:05 2014, in response to PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by chuchubob on Mon Dec 1 09:26:57 2014. Amtrak's naming their new ACS-64s now? |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 1 14:37:29 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 1 12:52:47 2014. I rode the nonstop Wash-NY Metroliner that was supposed to make the 225 miles in two-and-a-half hours. It came in 8 minutes late, so 225 miles / 158 minutes is an average speed of 85.44 mph, not too shabby. And that was when the NE Corridor was not as well-kept as today and still had a few grade crossings. I think the top speed was something like 110 mph. |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Dec 1 14:48:14 2014, in response to PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by chuchubob on Mon Dec 1 09:26:57 2014. nice shots |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by chuchubob on Mon Dec 1 15:41:06 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 1 14:17:05 2014. They named #600. |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 1 16:06:12 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by chuchubob on Mon Dec 1 15:41:06 2014. Thanks for clarifying. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 1 16:09:01 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 1 14:37:29 2014. That's all correct.I don't know for sure what they had actually intended to do to the NEC to get the Budd MUs up to 160 mph, frankly, or what the intended average speed was to be. 160 mph in the 70s would have made the train (and I've said this before) the fastest in the world, without needing to build dedicated high-speed corridors as had been done in Japan. |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by chud1 on Mon Dec 1 16:41:33 2014, in response to PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by chuchubob on Mon Dec 1 09:26:57 2014. 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for this pictures.chud1. :).... |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by busdude2 on Mon Dec 1 17:35:07 2014, in response to PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by chuchubob on Mon Dec 1 09:26:57 2014. Why name 600 for Gunn ? He was only at Amtrak 3 years. |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Mon Dec 1 18:26:03 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 1 12:15:58 2014. After Metroliner time, they were used as cab cars on the San Diegans. Ended the need to do turnarounds at both LA and San Diego ends.The turnaround at San Diego end was a pain as the train had to be pushed back to the wye at Washington St, a distance of about two miles. Limited the number of trains per day on the line. Another factor was how much of the line was single tracked (a lot back in the 80s). |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by WillD on Mon Dec 1 22:08:17 2014, in response to PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by chuchubob on Mon Dec 1 09:26:57 2014. Excellent photos.Does anyone know why they covered the diaphragm on that one cab car? |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by hhp664 on Mon Dec 1 23:03:21 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by WillD on Mon Dec 1 22:08:17 2014. such a waste to use our new motors on those little keystone trains. |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 1 23:21:39 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by hhp664 on Mon Dec 1 23:03:21 2014. What old motors are there that can hold up?Five cars ain't little; that's a medium-sized train. And the extra acceleration would be something the pax appreciate. |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by hhp664 on Mon Dec 1 23:30:07 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 1 23:21:39 2014. I'm sorry I've got 20 years running trains from 12,0000ft long truck trains to the auto train to Acela's. 5 car ain't nothing and reman's can handle them easily |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 1 23:37:05 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by hhp664 on Mon Dec 1 23:30:07 2014. How many remanufactured motors are on the roster? Besides, I seem to recall AMTK's press department put out the impression that the AEM-7s and HHP-8s were going out of service once the ACS-64s start going into service. |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Dec 2 00:25:54 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by hhp664 on Mon Dec 1 23:03:21 2014. Are the Alstoms really that bad? Or are the Siemens that good?And isn't there something about Amtrak wanting to rotate the Sprinters through Keystone runs because the initial acceptance testing for each car is restricted to NYP-DC and BOS-DC runs? |
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Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Dec 2 15:48:23 2014, in response to Re: PHOTOS: some Amtrak Keystone Service trains Sunday, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 1 16:09:01 2014. And for comparison, at the time of my ride the fastest conventional train was the Afternoon Congressional, left NYP 4:30, arr DC 8:05, 3 hours 35 minutes. |
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