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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 29 08:30:16 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 01:36:55 2014. Yes I am. His opinion is of much meaning. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 29 08:32:12 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 01:36:57 2014. Yes I am.Huh? BMTLines' neurosis has nothing to do with Chris! LOL! I don't know of anyone who has claimed to have permanently left SubChat because of Chris! Not even temporarily! And for that matter, BMTLines isn't gone, and he wasn't missed when he was pretending to be. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 09:14:14 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 29 08:30:16 2014. You're not exactly qualified to make that assessment. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 09:14:16 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 29 08:32:12 2014. BMTLines' neurosis......and I stopped reading because you're obviously talking out of your ass. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 29 16:09:10 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 01:36:57 2014. Wahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! No one has left "because of me", and why in the world would BMT Lines have left because of me? We never had any issues. I told you, there's only one person who I ever had an issue with, and I am speaking to him right now. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 29 21:40:10 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 09:14:16 2014. LOL! Typical! You have nothing logical or truthful or correct with which to reply to me so you just post some stupid cop-out like SelkirkTMO and Broadway Lion always do. Ha! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 29 21:41:03 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 09:14:14 2014. Yes I am. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 12:42:25 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 29 16:09:10 2014. No one has left "because of me", and why in the world would BMT Lines have left because of me?Plenty of people got sick of your shit and left. BMTLines isn't the only one. I told you, there's only one person who I ever had an issue with, and I am speaking to him right now. Honestly, when you act like a spoiled toddler, an indignant claim that you only act like a spoiled toddler around me kind of falls flat. Because, you know, you're acting like a spoiled toddler at all. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 12:42:27 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 29 21:41:03 2014. Aw, no more recursive linkbacks? Come on, that's your schtick (obnoxious though it is). |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 12:42:29 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 29 21:40:10 2014. You don't even know what half of those words mean.If you did, you would know that accusing BMTLines of being neurotic because he got sick of your shit proves you're too immature to be worth attempting a serious debate with. Not that it wasn't already obvious. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 30 12:59:54 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 12:42:27 2014. No it's not (x2). |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 30 13:01:18 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 12:42:29 2014. He got sick of it because he can't handle the typical debates that happen here. Most other regulars can handle it just fine. So he's different. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 30 13:22:16 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 12:42:25 2014. Plenty of people got sick of your shit and left. BMTLines isn't the only one.Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! This has got to be one of the best things you have come up with to date. Me and BMT Lines got along.....so nothing further could be from the truth. Keep making nonsense up freak. As for you, I could give a rats ass what you think. I have absolutely no respect for you at all, the ONLY one on this entire board I feel that way about. So go suck something. |
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Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station) |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 30 13:34:16 2014, in response to How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 08:05:38 2014. Speaking of getting into abandoned stations.Has anyone here ever ventured into the closed Woodhaven station on the LIRR Atlantic line? I used to pass it all the time and it seems like its in pretty good shape. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 30 13:55:24 2014, in response to Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 30 13:34:16 2014. The problem with that station is the trains go through so fast, that it's very hard to see anything. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 30 15:01:34 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 30 13:55:24 2014. Yes - that is why I am wondering if anyone has ever been down there to check out the station. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 20:22:33 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 30 13:22:16 2014. Why don't you learn to act like a grown-up? It must be tough holding down a job when you bawl like a spoiled toddler every time someone disagrees with you. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 20:22:42 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 30 13:01:18 2014. He got sick of it because he can't handle the typical debates that happen here.Yes, the "typical debates" are you and your fellow nutters throwing tantrums because someone posted facts you don't like or arguments you can't dispute. Most other regulars can handle it just fine. He's not the only one who left. Today's regulars can handle it because "today's regulars" are the people who didn't leave because they got sick of it— meaning, the nutters who spew bullshit, like you and your pal Chris, and the people who find the nutters vaguely amusing like me and Selkirk. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 20:22:43 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 30 12:59:54 2014. (x2)That's numberwang! |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Oct 30 21:45:04 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 20:22:33 2014. Lol!!! Yo r favorite line when nothing better to say. Freak. |
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Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station) |
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Posted by rkba on Thu Oct 30 22:34:30 2014, in response to Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 30 13:34:16 2014. Venturing into Woodhaven is unwise. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 22:58:55 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Oct 30 21:45:04 2014. If you would actually act like an adult, I wouldn't have to say it as often. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Fri Oct 31 04:14:15 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 30 13:55:24 2014. A mid-late 1960's issue of Headlights has a picture of that station in revenue service.Maybe other pictures of it can be found in AArts Archives, or Bob Anderson's LIRR history site. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Fri Oct 31 04:14:51 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 30 13:55:24 2014. A mid-late 1960's issue of Headlights has a picture of that station in revenue service. Appearance was similiar to an IND station platform.Maybe other pictures of it can be found in AArts Archives, or Bob Anderson's LIRR history site. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 31 04:46:18 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 22:58:55 2014. Lol!!! |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 31 08:19:27 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 31 04:46:18 2014. Is that all you can say? |
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Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station) |
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Posted by sloth on Fri Oct 31 10:24:59 2014, in response to Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 30 13:34:16 2014. I was there recently. It is in good shape. They could easily return it to service if there was ever a need to. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 31 12:08:38 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 31 08:19:27 2014. To you? Yes. |
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Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station) |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Oct 31 13:25:56 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 30 15:01:34 2014. I was in there `bout 10 years ago.its dark&dirty. |
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Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station) |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Oct 31 13:31:52 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by Express Rider on Fri Oct 31 04:14:51 2014. I,ve posted on this before.the reason the station was built to IND specs.is because in 1937 the lirr wanted to abandon all service west of Jamaica and sell it to the city for conversion for subway use.this is from a 1937 long island press report on the subject.the atlantic branch was supposed to connect to the A train in the vicinity of lafayette ave.this was told to me by old time BOT/t.a.workers around 1964. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 31 13:45:45 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Oct 31 13:31:52 2014. It would have made sence to keep the Fulton El running, forgo the Fulton Subway, use that money somewhere else for subway where there was no service, and use the LIRR atlantic branch for subway service. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Oct 31 14:06:06 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 31 13:45:45 2014. The problem with keeping the entire Fulton St el running was that most of the structure was unable to hold heavyweight steel cars. Only the portions between Nostrand Av and Hinsdale St and Grant Av to Lefferts were strong enough for steel cars, one part having been rebuilt and the outer portion being entirely new dual contract construction. Although it might have been cheaper in the long run to rebuild the entire length of the Fulton El to dual contract specs, the mindset of the city at the time was to build as few el structures as possible and build subways, so the more desirable alternative was to replace what many downtown Bkln merchants felt was an eyesore over Fulton St. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Oct 31 14:10:07 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Oct 31 13:31:52 2014. I don’t exactly think that was the reason that Woodhaven Blvd was tiled IND style. Since it was the city building that portion of the LIRR, it was merely state of the art of subway station ornamentation to tile stations in that manner. That is the same reason that 14/8, Fulton and Broad Sts were tiled IND style. The city built those stations and since they were contemporary with the IND that was the type of tiling that was state of the art for NYC subway construction at the time. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Oct 31 14:16:29 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by randyo on Fri Oct 31 14:10:07 2014. randy,where did you get info that the atlantic ave subway[lirr] was financed by the city? |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Oct 31 15:03:26 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Oct 31 14:16:29 2014. It seems I read somewhere that the grade Xing elimination along Atlantic Av was done by the city with WPA money like parts of the IND. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Oct 31 15:33:21 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by randyo on Fri Oct 31 15:03:26 2014. afaik this was part of the the lirr`s grade crossing elimination thru the rockaway`s.the stations were built to accomadate BOT token booths&turnstiles in anticipation of an eventual IND takeover&conversation to subway service. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Oct 31 18:21:07 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Oct 31 15:33:21 2014. Both Wikipedia and Joe Brennan’s site on abandoned stations mention that while it was something the LIRR wanted, it was done as a joint project with city money hence the IND like construction. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Fri Oct 31 22:43:34 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by Express Rider on Fri Oct 31 04:14:15 2014. i like that station on so many levels...the fact that it was on the only lirr branch where not only does each station not resemble any other station on the branch but each station uses a completely different design philosophy: the underground downtown multitrack terminal design of flatbush terminal (yeah, i know, atlantic terminal..screw that, it's flatbush terminal. nuff said.), the elevated-in-your-face nostrand ave., the oddball street level but with subway tunnels at both ends east new york, and finally, the commuter railroad station that thinks it's a stop on a "super-express" subway line, woodhaven. i like the utilitarian (at least to my railfan minimalist design of it. i like the location in woodhaven also. it would have been a cool place (to my railfan mentality anyway) to end a trip from oakdale or farmingdale...especially if it was a snowy night.(the railfan mentality thing again) |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Nov 1 05:34:15 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 31 12:08:38 2014. Then consider shutting up. If you're not willing to act like an adult, maybe you shouldn't participate in these threads. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 06:41:24 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Sat Nov 1 05:34:15 2014. Lol! Freak. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Nov 1 06:53:01 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 06:41:24 2014. Would you grow up? Your childish antics are getting quite tiresome. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 06:55:58 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Sat Nov 1 06:53:01 2014. I have no respect for your sorry ass. Lol!!! Freak. |
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Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station) |
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Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 06:57:55 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by randyo on Fri Oct 31 18:21:07 2014. Is there a tile band in the wall. I have only seen one photo of the station and it appears to just be white tile with some tablets. I don't remember if it has a colored tile band. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 07:00:38 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Oct 31 15:33:21 2014. Yes....I have read that too. That's also why when woodhaven and ozone park were rebuilt they were built with substantial concrete stations in anticipation of potential conversion. parkside and Brooklyn manor were never rebuilt from wood. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 07:12:48 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 18:50:50 2014. IAWTP |
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Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 07:14:33 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by ntrainride on Fri Oct 31 22:43:34 2014. I agree....it's always been an interesting line. It's a shame woodhaven is closed. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 07:20:24 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by randyo on Fri Oct 31 14:06:06 2014. It was rebuilt from just east of Franklin to Atlantic....and then as you said, east of grant. It's too bad they couldn't somehow incorporate that section into an Atlantic subway using the LIRR. Using the cranberry tube and a subway connection to Flatbush Ave....and a connection around Franklin to the LIRR from the rebuilt portion of the Fulton El to Atlantic. If this was subway.....the Rockaway line also connecting to this subway at woodhaven. It seems like such a waste.....perfectly good rebuilt dual contract structure (built identically to the Broadway el, used for just about 20 years. Such a waste. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 07:22:34 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 20:22:42 2014. LMAO!,,, me and Selkirk get along fine.....and long before your sorry ass showed up here. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 07:23:54 2014, in response to Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 30 15:01:34 2014. From what it sounds like it's in much better shape than your average abandoned subway system abandoned station.....but it's hard to confirm as there are very few photos of it available. |
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Re: Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station) |
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Posted by Express Rider on Sat Nov 1 09:19:02 2014, in response to Woodhaven Underground Station (Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 30 13:34:16 2014. re: I just searched Woodhaven LIRR station on Google images, and found the following:B & W photo of station in revenue service at Joe Breenan's website: URL: http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/abandoned/woodhaven.html youtube video: Atlantic Avenue Tunnel from a LIRR M3 Front Window I think the station is passed on the right hand side at about 50 - 60 seconds into the video. URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSjok0UsbmE |
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