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I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck

Posted by E and F and sometimes J on Fri Sep 19 18:18:06 2014

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Does this mean that that n/b E express service will be restored on Hillside Ave, or was this just a one off thing because of the construction?

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Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck

Posted by BrooklynTrain on Fri Sep 19 19:00:31 2014, in response to I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck, posted by E and F and sometimes J on Fri Sep 19 18:18:06 2014.

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Per the service advisory, Jamaica-bound F trains skip Van Wyck Blvd and Sutphin Blvd (All times until 5 AM Monday, Sep 22)

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Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck

Posted by E and F and sometimes J on Fri Sep 19 19:16:16 2014, in response to Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck, posted by BrooklynTrain on Fri Sep 19 19:00:31 2014.

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Sorry I wasn't clear. I already knew about the construction project.

The F train was on the express track, but any train on the northbound express track at the Briarwood Van Wyck station wanting to access the northbound Hillside Ave express track must come to a complete stop, and the T/O must punch for the n/b express track.

If the trains no longer have to punch for n/b express track then this means that the n/b 179TH St bound E trains can go express just like the s/b E trains that depart 179TH St.

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Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck

Posted by VictorM on Sat Sep 20 07:12:20 2014, in response to Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck, posted by E and F and sometimes J on Fri Sep 19 19:16:16 2014.

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I think they deliberately route N/B PM rush hour 179 St E trains via the local track (instead of the express track) so as not to confuse passengers (expecially at Union Turnpike) into thinking that train is going to Archer Av.

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Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Sep 20 10:43:09 2014, in response to Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck, posted by VictorM on Sat Sep 20 07:12:20 2014.

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I worked one of those 179 E intervals a few years ago.

These go local past CTL like the F does. If not by timetable, then by orders of the superintendant.

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Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck

Posted by VictorM on Sat Sep 20 11:15:03 2014, in response to Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Sep 20 10:43:09 2014.

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It also simplifies operations at Briarwood since all trains on the local track go to 179; all trains on the express track go to Archer.

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Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Sep 20 11:20:38 2014, in response to Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck, posted by VictorM on Sat Sep 20 11:15:03 2014.

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An F train lays up on the 179th bound express track before the first 179th E gets there anyway... Those PM E put ins out of 179th go express all the way down to CTL though.

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Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Sep 20 11:49:03 2014, in response to Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck, posted by VictorM on Sat Sep 20 11:15:03 2014.

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That had a lot to do with it too. The line-up were fleeted in so as to avoid delays.

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Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck

Posted by G1Ravage on Sat Sep 20 12:20:26 2014, in response to Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck, posted by E and F and sometimes J on Fri Sep 19 19:16:16 2014.

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No. There are usually lay-ups on the northbound express track.

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Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Sep 20 16:04:33 2014, in response to Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Sep 20 11:49:03 2014.

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This has been discussed here so many times before, but until now I have never heard a sensible explanation for this practice. The idea of not diverging and remerging the 179 E's and the F's actually explains everything.

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Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck

Posted by Nilet on Sun Sep 21 00:03:25 2014, in response to Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Sep 20 11:20:38 2014.

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Those PM E put ins out of 179th go express all the way down to CTL though.

Yep. Been there, got the RFW video. I'd put it on YouTube, but it's buried among thousands of other video clips with no names or indexing. And because I'm pretty sure posting a 480p video these days is punishable by a mandatory public tomato throwing.

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Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck

Posted by Michael549 on Sun Sep 21 12:50:20 2014, in response to Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck, posted by Nilet on Sun Sep 21 00:03:25 2014.

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Are you sure that just tomato's would be thrown? (Smile)

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Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 21 12:54:54 2014, in response to Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck, posted by Nilet on Sun Sep 21 00:03:25 2014.

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480p is fine ... just monochrome it, put a layer of "film noise" on top and it's classic TV! :)

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Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck

Posted by Nilet on Sun Sep 21 14:05:11 2014, in response to Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 21 12:54:54 2014.

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No need to add film noise. Crappy camcorder in low-light conditions generates its own noise.

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Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Sep 21 14:41:56 2014, in response to Re: I was on a n/b express track F train this afternoon that DID NOT stop at Briarwood Van Wyck, posted by Nilet on Sun Sep 21 00:03:25 2014.

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480p is still high quality, I watch YT videos in 480 99 percent of the time, a fan on Youtube uploaded videos of the R110A actually running under its own power burn testing/running in service from the early 90s and it got a LOT of positive feedback.

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