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INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn

Posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 15 18:50:35 2014

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I rode my back out to Fairway in Red Hook and was shocked to see 3303 in back of Fairway.

PCC 3303 Back in Red Hook photo imagejpg1-2.jpg

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Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn

Posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 15 19:04:48 2014, in response to INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn, posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 15 18:50:35 2014.

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Here's a recent article that doesn't explain much.

Red Hook Waterfront Article

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Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn

Posted by Allan on Sun Jun 15 19:36:08 2014, in response to INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn, posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 15 18:50:35 2014.

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Very nice.

You rode your back? What size wheels do you have on your back?

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CONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Never Left Brooklyn

Posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 15 19:38:04 2014, in response to Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn, posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 15 19:04:48 2014.

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Here's another source that does explain some things.

3303 Never Left Brooklyn

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Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn

Posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 15 19:39:50 2014, in response to Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn, posted by Allan on Sun Jun 15 19:36:08 2014.

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My mistake.

Corrected text:

I rode my bike out to Fairway in Red Hook and was shocked to see 3303 in bike of Fairway.

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Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Jun 15 19:42:08 2014, in response to INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn, posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 15 18:50:35 2014.

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I wonder if #3303 was stored in one of those barns to the right out of view. This car looks like it was stored indoors while the others were weather worn and vandalized.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 15 20:25:53 2014, in response to Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Jun 15 19:42:08 2014.

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Yep ... it was kept inside with the Oslo car.

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Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 15 23:38:30 2014, in response to INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn, posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 15 18:50:35 2014.

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You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

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Re: RECLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn

Posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 15 23:57:17 2014, in response to Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 15 23:38:30 2014.

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You're right,as always. It was a careless topological error.

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Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn

Posted by subfan on Mon Jun 16 08:11:00 2014, in response to INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn, posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 15 18:50:35 2014.

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I never realized it was an old Boston car - you can see "via Subway - Watertown" in the route box, for the old Green Line "A" branch (abandoned long ago...).

subfan

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Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 16 08:55:16 2014, in response to Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn, posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 15 19:04:48 2014.

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"It’s a different model than the trolley cars the O’Connell Organization donated to the Branford Electric Railway Association, who operate the Shore Line Trolley Museum in East Haven, CT. The car on display is known as a PCC (President’s Conference Committee) car."

:)

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Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jun 16 09:06:30 2014, in response to Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Jun 15 19:42:08 2014.

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How do you think they moved it out of the barn? Could they push it with a rubber-tired vehicle?

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Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn

Posted by Railbus63 on Mon Jun 16 09:32:39 2014, in response to Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn, posted by subfan on Mon Jun 16 08:11:00 2014.

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It's one of 50 'Picture Window' air-electric PCC cars built by Pullman-Standard in 1951 for Boston's Metropolitan Transit Authority.

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Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn

Posted by MTA T on Mon Jun 16 09:34:15 2014, in response to INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn, posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 15 18:50:35 2014.

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I think this one never moved, but I could be wrong. The others were taken elsewhere though.

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Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jun 16 10:35:34 2014, in response to Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn, posted by Railbus63 on Mon Jun 16 09:32:39 2014.

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Thank you.

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Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn

Posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Jun 16 17:03:04 2014, in response to Re: INCONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Back in Brooklyn, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jun 16 09:06:30 2014.

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How do you think they moved it out of the barn? Could they push it with a rubber-tired vehicle?

They probably used one of those Bobcat mini excavators. They're small and nimble and could very well push the PCC to where it stands now.

Bill Newkirk


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Re: CONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Never Left Brooklyn

Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Mon Jun 16 18:31:16 2014, in response to CONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Never Left Brooklyn, posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 15 19:38:04 2014.

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Truth. 3303 never left, it just got moved out of the warehouse finally.

The ones that left "for parts unknown" were 3321, 3299 and Shaker 70.


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Re: CONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Never Left Brooklyn

Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Mon Jun 16 18:38:46 2014, in response to CONCLUSIVE!!! PCC Car 3303 Never Left Brooklyn, posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 15 19:38:04 2014.

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This is the car we almost got running. Everything was worked pretty good considering it was the worst of the three Boston cars when we started on it. But it was indoor in the winter, so alot of work got done to it. We never got to put power to traction motors (meggered ok in 2001). The MG was kinda loud like a bearing was going, but it still worked. No track connection to the "main" from the warehouse so it never moved from that spot in the warehouse since 2000. Too bad it got flooded up to the headlight by Sandy, but I bet its salvagable still.

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