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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 3 15:59:03 2014 edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d From their own history account. Railroad Division TWU’s railroad division started out as an organization committee set up by the CIO. The committee built a beachhead for industrial unionism among the non-operating personnel of the Pennsylvania Railroad and soon spread out to include workers from 18 other railroads. From New York to Los Angeles and from Grand Rapids to Nashville, it connected more than 10,000 miles of rail operation and was spread out in 72 locals. The committee lacked the power they needed to make real changes for railroad workers across America and realized that they would have to join an established leadership to make a difference for members. In September 1954, the committee voted overwhelmingly to merge with TWU. Nearly 40,000 rail workers joined our union, coming from 28 different employers around the nation. At the time of the merger, the Pennsylvania Railroad management had been laying off maintenance personnel and ignoring proper repair and upkeep of equipment in order to show high profit margins. The unfair furloughs were TWU’s first and biggest problem to tackle. On January 22, 1955, TWU called a conference in Pittsburgh where they worked out a long-range program to secure full employment for Pittsburgh railroad workers. TWU mobilized public opinion behind its campaign to restore jobs and attain decent livelihoods for their members, advertising how their agenda would help ensure passenger safety. TWU declared for the company to step up its maintenance program, to stop subtracting jobs and to provide furloughed workers with reasonable and compensatory severance pay. The TWU also proposed a System Board of Adjustment for dealing directly with companies involved with worker grievances, instead of the inadequate National Railroad Adjustment Board, which was always delayed and worked on a national level. A dispute over an unfair scope rule and a job classification clause in a Pennsylvania Railroad contract had been simmering for more than three years when TWU decided it was time to take action. At 12:01 a.m., on September 1, 1960 picket-lines surrounded the company, creating the first strike against the Pennsylvania Railroad in its 114-year history, causing the mighty railroad to ground to a halt. After 12 days of the strike the union had achieved complete victory, forcing the Pennsylvania company to work out a genuine solution to the workers problems. Since 1954 the TWU has worked tirelessly to preserve railroad jobs and the crucial Railroad Retirement and Unemployment System. We’ve also fought against attacks on the Federal Employers Liability Act, which provides rail workers the ability to sue their employers for injuries suffered on the job. The popularity of railroads declined with the advent of truck delivery and frequent passenger air travel but has recently see a renewal as the country recognizes its value as a cheaper and cleaner way to travel. We will continue to work hard for our railroad members as the industry grows. Today, we represent railroad workers at Conrail, Amtrak and on a number of short line carriers. Liars. They contributed to the loss of railroad jobs by not going after the government regulations while going after the employers.
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Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR
Posted by Dave* on Tue Jun 3 17:31:41 2014, in response to TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 3 15:59:03 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Last time I checked, railroad employees couldn't then and can't today strike the federal government.
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Posted by TheHat* on Tue Jun 3 18:26:09 2014, in response to Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 3 17:31:41 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d True, except they can and do by political donations & lobbing or not choosing to donate to parties (including the incubant) that inact and promote policies that are meant to and result in injuring the ameriacn workforce. The current policies and actions taken by The White House and administration therein are willing to take monies from unions, but then promote and executively U.S. job killing measures. Executive orders that force our costs (i.e. EPA non-laws) and no active enforcement of laws of the land causes the cost of living to increase and then import workers to receive SSI and wellfare and undercut U.S. wages by cash payments for laboe while in recipt of medicaid for their healthcare. Political action and donations are the reign of ruin for the American worker. IMO, sorry kids, but that's the truth.
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Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR
Posted by Dave* on Tue Jun 3 19:35:03 2014, in response to Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by TheHat on Tue Jun 3 18:26:09 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d You're confusing 2014 with 1960. What works today didn't work that way then. And the word "executively" is inappropriately used in your rant.
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Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Jun 3 19:37:37 2014, in response to Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 3 17:31:41 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d That's not what I'm saying. They can work to make things easier for their membership (and so keep their membership) by lobbying the government to stop piling on the taxes and regulations though, can't they?
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Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR
Posted by xtimx* on Tue Jun 3 20:41:16 2014, in response to TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 3 15:59:03 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The fox news website has a comment section, keep your drivel over there.
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Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR
Posted by Dan Lawrence* on Tue Jun 3 20:56:13 2014, in response to Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by xtimx on Tue Jun 3 20:41:16 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Think that's going to stop Olog? Think again.
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Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR
Posted by TheHat* on Tue Jun 3 22:32:02 2014, in response to Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 3 19:35:03 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d No, I was making a point for today's delema. Since I inappropriatetly used "executively", please use it correctly for me.
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Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR
Posted by italianstallion* on Tue Jun 3 23:41:23 2014, in response to TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 3 15:59:03 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Uh-huh. Going on strike is a legitimate labor tactic and is not intended to destroy the employer. Destroying the employer would cause all the union jobs to be lost.
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Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 00:49:23 2014, in response to TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 3 15:59:03 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d So you believe big government should destroy the labour unions? Gotcha. Communist.
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Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR
Posted by Dave* on Wed Jun 4 06:47:04 2014, in response to Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by TheHat on Tue Jun 3 22:32:02 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The current policies and actions taken by The White House and administration therein are willing to take monies from unions, but then promote and executively U.S. job killing measures. Since I have no idea what you were trying to say, I can't suggest how to properly used the word "executively." What do you mean by "promote and executively U.S. job killing measures"?
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Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR
Posted by Dan Lawrence* on Wed Jun 4 11:15:30 2014, in response to Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by Nilet on Wed Jun 4 00:49:23 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Total Communist.
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Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR
Posted by xtimx* on Wed Jun 4 13:33:26 2014, in response to Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jun 3 20:56:13 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d He's a blowhard that just won't stop. It's annoying. I purposely avoid right wing garbage websites yet he brings his bullshit here.
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Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jun 4 13:52:41 2014, in response to Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by xtimx on Wed Jun 4 13:33:26 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The TWU is a "right-wing garbage website"? That's a new one. I don't post from any websites that the left labels "right wing"—and that's to make a point. Maybe you ought to try speaking the truth sometime.
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Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jun 4 13:53:56 2014, in response to Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by xtimx on Tue Jun 3 20:41:16 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d That's not Fox News. That's the TWU's own website‼ Are you feeling well today?
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Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 13:54:15 2014, in response to Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 13:52:41 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d So which side are you on?
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Re: PRR Destroyed By Advancing Technology; Olog Blames Lack of Government Intervention.
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 14:02:47 2014, in response to Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 13:53:56 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Missing the point again? As long as you're spewing your usual garbage in the main forum, here's a quick recap of the questions you've failed to answer. 1. Define "liberal." 2. Define "conservative." 3. When did the trait of skin with limited pigmentation first appear in the Americas and why did it appear at that time? 4. Describe exactly what form of government you would endorse. In more detail than "small." As in, name a few government programs and/or activities that you support. 5. What do customer service associates have to do with Godwin? That's hardly an exhaustive list, but you can start with those. These aren't going away you know. If you keep spewing garbage, I'll continue to confront you with your failures.
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 14:26:18 2014, in response to Re: PRR Destroyed By Advancing Technology; Olog Blames Lack of Government Intervention., posted by Nilet on Wed Jun 4 14:02:47 2014. edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Advancing technology? Thanks for admitting you hate trains. LOL!
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Re: PRR Destroyed By Advancing Technology; Olog Blames Lack of Government Intervention.
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 14:38:58 2014, in response to Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 14:26:18 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Ah, so you admit you want big government to ban cars, roads, and airplanes. Communist! By the way, I couldn't help but notice you failed to answer my questions. Would you like to try again? 1. Define "liberal." 2. Define "conservative." 3. When did the trait of skin with limited pigmentation first appear in the Americas and why did it appear at that time? 4. Describe exactly what form of government you would endorse. In more detail than "small." As in, name a few government programs and/or activities that you support. 5. What do customer service associates have to do with Godwin? They're not going away, you know.
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Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR
Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 19:22:16 2014, in response to Re: PRR Destroyed By Advancing Technology; Olog Blames Lack of Government Intervention., posted by Nilet on Wed Jun 4 14:38:58 2014. edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d You're not even being funny. You could at least try—or failing that, tell the board your Stormfront handle. The last things I want banned are planes and cars. It was government intervention that did in the trains, and here's the TWU admitting it!
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Re: PRR Destroyed By Advancing Technology; Olog Blames Lack of Government Intervention.
Posted by Nilet* on Thu Jun 5 05:56:06 2014, in response to Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 19:22:16 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d You're not even being funny. I'm not trying to be. Your incoherence is kind of amusing, though. You could at least try... Why bother? It would go right over your head. ...or failing that, tell the board your Stormfront handle. I can't give you something that doesn't exist. Why don't you tell us your Stormfront handle? Between your blatant racism, your knowledge of their jargon, and your projection, we all know you're a member. The last things I want banned are planes and cars. It was government intervention that did in the trains... Right, the government regulation enacted in the 19th century destroyed the railroads almost a century later— coincidentally, right at the same time that planes and cars emerged as viable alternatives. So if government intervention destroyed the trains, how do you explain Amtrak? Or the MTA? Or NJT? Or SEPTA? The only passenger trains still in service are run by the government itself— government intervention saved the trains when the railroads went bust. ...and here's the TWU admitting it! No, the TWU "admitted" that they represent transport workers, because that's what they do, being the Transport Workers Union. You then claimed that they destroyed the railroads by failing to oppose the nonexistent regulations you keep banging on about. The actual article from twu.org notes: "Since 1954 the TWU has worked tirelessly to preserve railroad jobs;" the bit about destroying the railroads is your own commentary, which you posted underneath the article with your usual lack of insight.
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 5 15:11:24 2014, in response to Re: PRR Destroyed By Advancing Technology; Olog Blames Lack of Government Intervention., posted by Nilet on Thu Jun 5 05:56:06 2014. edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d "You're not even being funny" I'm not trying to be You saying you're completely nuts, then? K, another one for the bookmarks. Phew. Go get some help before you have a breakdown.
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Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR
Posted by streetcarman1* on Thu Jun 5 15:35:58 2014, in response to Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jun 4 11:15:30 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Yet Olog calls the lefties....Commies....
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Re: Olog admits he supports big government.
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Jun 6 08:02:50 2014, in response to Re: TWU admits helping to destroy the PRR, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 5 15:11:24 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Yes, I am saying you're completely nuts. K, another one for the bookmarks. You're bookmarking the post where you got pwned? I guess you get off on it or something.
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