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Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by Gold_12th on Tue May 13 02:02:08 2014

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Great job confusing a lot of riders...

photos for proof


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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 06:42:18 2014, in response to Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by Gold_12th on Tue May 13 02:02:08 2014.

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So, anyone know the story behind this? Daniel The Cool suggests there is one, and it would be uncool for Daniel to lie.

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by MainR3664 on Tue May 13 07:07:03 2014, in response to Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by Gold_12th on Tue May 13 02:02:08 2014.

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M via Sea Beach...now that's interesting!!!

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by GIS Man on Tue May 13 08:32:04 2014, in response to Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by Gold_12th on Tue May 13 02:02:08 2014.

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"Sorry, you don't have permission for that!"

Bob

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by MTA T on Tue May 13 08:53:57 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 06:42:18 2014.

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> David "Delta Concourse" Oritz
> Kevin Satchell
> Mikey Neat
> Quincy Cain


David "Delta Concourse" Oritz is the one who does all that probably.

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by MTA T on Tue May 13 08:57:34 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by MTA T on Tue May 13 08:53:57 2014.

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*David "Delta Concourse" Oritz is the one who changes the rollsigns all the time.

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue May 13 09:11:06 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 06:42:18 2014.

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The crew was aware that the signs were going haywire and they called it in.

A TSS responded to the train. The speculation was a customer got into the cab of the last car and started fiddling with the sign box and was putting in random codes.



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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue May 13 10:32:02 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue May 13 09:11:06 2014.

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Knead you not a key to do all of this?

ROAR

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by jabrams on Tue May 13 10:48:25 2014, in response to Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by Gold_12th on Tue May 13 02:02:08 2014.

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If the crew was aware, why not just turn all the signs off and let the C/R make the announcements. Where actually was the train (on what shared trackage)?

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Tue May 13 14:35:26 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue May 13 10:32:02 2014.

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Just to get into the cab. The vandals have keys. Plus the latch to hold the cab door closed on the R46 is cheesy at best.

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Tue May 13 14:39:58 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by jabrams on Tue May 13 10:48:25 2014.

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The signs and air comfort are on the same button on the console.

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by randyo on Tue May 13 15:01:34 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by MainR3664 on Tue May 13 07:07:03 2014.

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That actually happened post 9/11 when the H tracks of the Manny B were out and no Bway BMT service could operate S/O Canal St. Js were sent via the tunnel and Nassau to 95 St and Ms were sent via the tunnel and Nassau to Stl via the Sea Beach.

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed May 14 07:31:48 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by randyo on Tue May 13 15:01:34 2014.

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I do remember the J to 4th/95th during that period. I don't personally remember the M running via the N...but I believe you, and I could research it myself anyway.

But I thought the "H" tracks on the bridge had been restored to service on 7/22/01- no?

Unless they were again out of service due to 9/11 issues.. again, I guess I should look up the maps from that terrible time..

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by X-Astorian on Wed May 14 08:41:26 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by MainR3664 on Wed May 14 07:31:48 2014.

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 photo 091901.jpg

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed May 14 11:41:35 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by randyo on Tue May 13 15:01:34 2014.

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Here's a picture (thanks to NYCSubway.org)



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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by Nilet on Wed May 14 11:51:44 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed May 14 11:41:35 2014.

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And with a slant at that.

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed May 14 13:54:02 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed May 14 11:41:35 2014.

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Thank you.

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed May 14 13:59:07 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by X-Astorian on Wed May 14 08:41:26 2014.

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Thank you. That clarifies a lot. I remember that the 1.2.3 & 9 did not return to normal until Sept. 2002. Then, a building collapsed at Rector Street.

The theory was that the building (contained "George's"- an old-fashioned "workingman's lunch" joint) was weakened by collapse of the WTC, but the damage wasn't apparent until vibrations caused by the subway returned.

The building was rebuilt and, George's re-opened as well...

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by chud1 on Wed May 14 16:24:54 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed May 14 11:41:35 2014.

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a excellent train on da el.
chud1.
:)....

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed May 14 20:39:50 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by Nilet on Wed May 14 11:51:44 2014.

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IIRC, most of the M's at that time were slants.

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed May 14 21:00:50 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed May 14 20:39:50 2014.

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Correct. I worked the M for the duration of the M via Sea Beach.

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Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service

Posted by Nilet on Wed May 14 23:31:35 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed May 14 21:00:50 2014.

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I never managed to do any railfanning at the time. :(

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Re: It is 2009 over again

Posted by MTA T on Thu May 15 03:58:10 2014, in response to Re: Playing around R46 car: LCD signs & end sign on the (F) train in service, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 06:42:18 2014.

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As seen on Facebook, there is a (secret) group of railfans called the "Railfan Conquestors" that are responsible for changing the signs on trains and vandalizing them. All go to Transit Tech, and the group is led by David "Delta Concourse" Oritz.

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Re: It is 2009 over again

Posted by randyo on Thu May 15 15:29:15 2014, in response to Re: It is 2009 over again, posted by MTA T on Thu May 15 03:58:10 2014.

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UNless these vandals have illegally obtained employee issued sign changers, I don't see how they could change the signs since unlike the older cars all current cars that lack electronic signs require a special device.

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Re: It is 2009 over again

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 15:33:53 2014, in response to Re: It is 2009 over again, posted by randyo on Thu May 15 15:29:15 2014.

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Obviously they have one.

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Re: It is 2009 over again

Posted by MTA T on Thu May 15 19:08:19 2014, in response to Re: It is 2009 over again, posted by randyo on Thu May 15 15:29:15 2014.

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They use scissors lmao.

Deadass.

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Re: It is 2009 over again

Posted by Ray Jules on Thu May 15 20:18:45 2014, in response to Re: It is 2009 over again, posted by randyo on Thu May 15 15:29:15 2014.

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The signs can be changed with an allen key, but David Ortiz (The ringleader of these troublemakers) is infamous for using a pair of scissors jammed in the sign receptacle to change them.

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