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Posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014 Brooklyn-bound subway train derailed in Queens Friday morning, according to MTA. The agency described it as a derailment about 10:30 a.m. Friday on its website. A spokesperson told PIX11 the agency was responding to an “incident” involving an express F train near the Broadway-65th Street station. Emergency crews are on the scene. There was no immediate report of injuries, though hundreds of passengers are estimated to be on the train. Passengers are being evacuated through chute-like emergency exits, access through the sidewalk above, between 60th and 65th streets, aerial footage showed. Because of the derailment, the following service changes are in effect, according to MTA: Northbound 7 trains are terminating at 57th Street/Seventh Avenue Some northbound R trains are running on the N line from 57th Street/Seventh Avenue to Queensboro Plaza E, F, and M trains are running with delays in both directions |
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Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 2 11:26:34 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/05/02/f-subway-train-derails-in-woodside-queens/ |
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Re: derailed F train this morning-Update |
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Posted by seabeachexpress on Fri May 2 11:30:56 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. WOODSIDE (WABC) -- Crew are on the scene of a subway train derailment in Queens.LIVE COVERAGE FROM EYEWITNESS NEWS AND NEWSCOPTER 7 The MTA describes the derailment as minor, involving a F train traveling inbound to Manhattan. The incident happened near Northern Boulevard in Woodside around 10:30 a.m. FDNY EMS is reporting no serious injuries, but they are administering oxygen to four people. Some others will be treated at scene. As many as 1000 passengers are exiting the subway where rescuers have set up a command post at 60th Street and Broadway. MTA says customers should anticipate a higher than normal volume of customers traveling because of the derailment. The E, F, R and M trains are running with delays. The LIRR is cross-honoring NYC Transit tickets in both directions between Penn Station and Jamaica including Kew Gardens, Forest Hills, and Woodside stations. Related Content More: Follow us @ABC7NY More: Commuter Alert Traffic (Copyright ©2014 WABC-TV/DT. All Rights Reserved.) |
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Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri May 2 12:41:26 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. A witness claimed that the train was traveling too fast just before the derailment happened. |
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Posted by Mkeit on Fri May 2 12:49:25 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. No service at all on E and F in Queens. |
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Posted by RetiredSLD on Fri May 2 12:58:34 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Mkeit on Fri May 2 12:49:25 2014. From the interior cellphone pictures taken and shown on channel 2 news at noon it looks like an R46 set |
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Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Fri May 2 13:06:41 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. I was wondering why 74th St/Roosevelt on the 7 was a mob scene. I passed thru at about 10:40AM. |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri May 2 13:10:37 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. Do we know, R46 or 160 ? |
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Posted by Michael549 on Fri May 2 13:22:43 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. From a previous message: "Northbound 7 trains are terminating at 57th Street/Seventh Avenue"Just how is that even possible? Bad editing, maybe? Mike |
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Posted by Train2104 on Fri May 2 13:27:10 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri May 2 13:10:37 2014. R46. Middle 6 cars derailed. Local tracks only for PM Peak, rerailing afterwards. 7 weekend GO canceled. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 13:37:39 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri May 2 13:10:37 2014. r46 |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri May 2 13:41:27 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Train2104 on Fri May 2 13:27:10 2014. Thanks. |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri May 2 13:44:03 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Michael549 on Fri May 2 13:22:43 2014. Very Interesting, Are they using the R33singles in getting the 7 line to 57 & 7 on the BMT. ? |
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Re: derailed F train this morning (12pm news) |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 13:48:28 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. ABC 7 |
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Posted by Abba on Fri May 2 13:57:49 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. I heard there was an E train also in the area.Does the 1000 people include the people from that train? |
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Posted by Randyo on Fri May 2 14:02:01 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by RetiredSLD on Fri May 2 12:58:34 2014. Pendergast stated in a TV interview that it was an R-46. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 2 14:07:56 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Abba on Fri May 2 13:57:49 2014. Likely not, given the time of the incident. |
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Re: derailed F train this morning (12pm news) |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 14:21:30 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning (12pm news), posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 13:48:28 2014. CBS 2 |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 2 14:25:19 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. Judging from where evacuees are emerging, I'd guess it was either a rail condition on D3 track, or a problem on one or more of the cars. I doubt it has anything to do with the curve. If it were, people would have been evacuated closer to the Northern Boulevard station.I don't recall any work having been done on the tracks that would require significant speed reduction. I last rode that section of the system on Monday, and I didn't notice anything unusual. Trains usually zip through that area anyway. The fastest train I've taken through there hit the curve at about 46 mph, though most usually don't go past 42. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 14:27:10 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 2 14:07:56 2014. Some news outlets did mention it, probably from the radio scanners... |
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Posted by R30A on Fri May 2 14:28:59 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Mitch45 on Fri May 2 12:41:26 2014. A witness who knows the allowable speeds there and had access to a speedometer immediately before the derailment? |
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(1pm press conference video) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 14:29:04 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. |
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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Fri May 2 14:50:56 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 13:37:39 2014. "This video is unavailable" |
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(MTA flickr photos @ the derailment scene) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 15:01:24 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. Track damage R46 5636? debris rail bent |
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I WAS ON IT!!! Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by R46 5636 on Fri May 2 15:06:40 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. You read that correctly. I was on the train that derailed. Here's what happened:10:19 AM SB (F) train leaves Roosevelt Avenue 10:20 AM Right after 65 Street on the fastest part, train goes BIE. Lights flicker and track keeps making banging noises (stop arm keeps reacting). 10:21 AM Smoke in tunnel 10:24 AM T/O and C/R are on Intercom, call for Handbrake. While I was overhearing the conversation, they were saying how the train may be pulled apart (it wasn't). C/R goes on intercom and tells passengers to remain calm (Yeah right!) 10:32 AM C/R announces that there will be a rescue train coming 10:36 AM T/O comes into car and announces that the train has derailed and we'll be stuck here for a while. 10:39 AM Fire Department arrives. I stopped taking notes after that, but here's what I remember: > Two passengers complained of trouble breathing and were sat down and given oxygen > They were first going to send the rescue train behind my train. Then they decided they were going to send it on the NB Express track... Except there was a wall blocking it. > Eventually they decided to use the emergency exit, of which they did. > I was one of the first ones to climb down onto the roadbed and use the emergency exit. Lots of Emergency Services and News media were there. This was the set involved: N 5742-5743-5745-5744=5634-5635-5637-5636 S (Of course 5636 was involved) I overheard that the first two cars may have damage, which were 5743 and 5745. It took an hour to get out of the train. When the train went BIE, it was something like out of a horror movie: The train stops dead silent and the lights keep flickering / tracks making noises. Then the smoke appears. Of course, I didn't have my camera on me (that's my luck). I did take one picture from inside the train. Almost everyone was taking video with their smartphones, but they were told to put them away when evacuating. If anyone says something different happened, tell them to come to me since I was there firsthand! It really was an interesting experience. |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Fri May 2 15:12:57 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Mitch45 on Fri May 2 12:41:26 2014. There's alway at least one of those ignorant idiots. |
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Posted by Charles G on Fri May 2 15:23:24 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by SubwaySurf on Fri May 2 15:12:57 2014. Well, there's always someone who says the train was going too fast.Immediately after the MNR incident at Spuyten Duyvil, there were some passengers who said the train was going too fast. Turns out they weren't so ignorant after all. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri May 2 15:25:26 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Mitch45 on Fri May 2 12:41:26 2014. Interesting. But I doubt the witness has the knowledge to make that claim... |
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Posted by R46 5636 on Fri May 2 15:26:05 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Charles G on Fri May 2 15:23:24 2014. The train was hauling it past 65 Street. I was going along being my usual railfan self until BIE hit. I would say it was going as fast as it could, but if the rail didn't break he would have had to slow down for the timers anyway.Great, now they're going to put more timers there -_-. |
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Re: derailed F train this morning-Update |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri May 2 15:28:21 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning-Update, posted by seabeachexpress on Fri May 2 11:30:56 2014. The main thing is that there are no serious injuries. I also hope this is not found to be the fault of the train crew (assuming they are innocent, which I also hope). |
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Posted by R46 5636 on Fri May 2 15:34:19 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning-Update, posted by MainR3664 on Fri May 2 15:28:21 2014. The train crew may be found at fault... but may not. Like I said, the train was going as fast as it could past 65 Street, though a lot of other trains I've been on in that spot go that fast as well. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri May 2 15:35:04 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri May 2 13:44:03 2014. The R188s and R62As could get there with just as much ease (or difficulty...) |
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Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by chud1 on Fri May 2 15:36:38 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 2 11:26:34 2014. thats scary.chud1. |
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(MTA statement) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 15:48:28 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. A Manhattan-bound F train carrying about 1,000 customers derailed shortly after 10:15 a.m. on Friday, May 2, suspending service along the Queens Boulevard corridor. The incident occurred about 1,200 feet west of the 65th Street Station and the cause is currently under investigation.Aided by New York Fire and Police Department personnel, customers were evacuated from the incident train to the street via an emergency exit at 60th Street. A second express train in the area was moved back to Queens Plaza where about 100 passengers were discharged with no injuries reported. The evacuations were completed in about two hours. The derailment forced six cars of the eight car train off the rails, though all cars remained upright and stable. Nineteen customers suffered minor injuries, 15 of which were deemed to be minor. “The focus originally was on caring for the injured and the safe evacuation of our customers. The Fire and Police Departments did an excellent job in this effort.” said MTA Chairman and CEO Thomas Prendergast, who responded to the scene with NYC Transit President Carmen Bianco. “The focus is now on a full and thorough investigation of this incident. After the rush hour we will focus on re-railing the cars, inspecting and repairing damage and then restoring service when everything has been determined to be safe.” Train service along the Queens Boulevard Line was expected to be restored first on the two outer local tracks with re-railing and removal of the damaged train to begin sometime after rush hour. Though NYC Transit is working to restore service, with only two tracks there will be limited capacity along one of the City’s busiest corridors. http://www.mta.info/news/2014/05/02/teamwork-helps-ensure-safe-evacuation-hundreds-riders |
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Re: (1pm press conference video) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by The Silence on Fri May 2 15:49:50 2014, in response to (1pm press conference video) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 14:29:04 2014. If anyone wants to know what I hate about the news media, listen to their questions. |
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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Fri May 2 15:52:05 2014, in response to (MTA statement) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 15:48:28 2014. I'd venture a guess that the E & F will be scraping the wall through the weekend. M & R won't be back on QB before Monday. |
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Re: (1pm press conference video) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 15:54:09 2014, in response to Re: (1pm press conference video) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by The Silence on Fri May 2 15:49:50 2014. Terrible journalists. :) |
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Posted by sitechboy on Fri May 2 15:58:25 2014, in response to Re: (MTA statement) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Fri May 2 15:52:05 2014. i can guarantee you will not see any M Trains on queens blvd till Monday. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 2 16:16:07 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 14:27:10 2014. According to the reports I heard, there were 1,000 or so on the derailed train. I would assume that an equal number were on the E train that ended up in the power off area. Reports of that type early on are notoriously unreliable anyway. I did here Tom Prendergast call this a "minor derailment". Things must have gotten much worse in the last 3 years because 6 cars on the ground would never have been called a minor incident back then. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri May 2 16:31:44 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by MainR3664 on Fri May 2 15:35:04 2014. Only if the 188 or 62A has 4 trip cocks on the head out cars. |
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Re: (1pm press conference video) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri May 2 16:57:02 2014, in response to (1pm press conference video) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 14:29:04 2014. At about the 9 minute mark Dana Tyler referred the line as Metro North.Earlier a reporter seemed to infer the tracks were original to construction to the line. Maybe these reporters ought to ride the subway once in a while. |
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Re: (MTA statement) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Fulton Frank on Fri May 2 16:59:58 2014, in response to Re: (MTA statement) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by sitechboy on Fri May 2 15:58:25 2014. "Right after 65th…." No switches to pick…… broken rail? |
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Re: I WAS ON IT!!! Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri May 2 17:01:19 2014, in response to I WAS ON IT!!! Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by R46 5636 on Fri May 2 15:06:40 2014. The south motor made it thru, it did not go on the ground.Most of the "smoke" is dust flying around. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri May 2 17:02:15 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by R46 5636 on Fri May 2 15:26:05 2014. There are no timers southbound. |
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Re: (MTA statement) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 17:02:50 2014, in response to (MTA statement) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 15:48:28 2014. 400 feet of damage. |
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Re: derailed F train this morning-Update |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri May 2 17:02:51 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning-Update, posted by R46 5636 on Fri May 2 15:34:19 2014. Broken rail. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri May 2 17:03:39 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri May 2 17:02:15 2014. That's likely to change. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 17:08:26 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri May 2 17:03:39 2014. It is likely a broken rail. I doubt they will put timers just to slow down even more. They just need another round of FASTRACK in the Queens Blvd corridor or beef up the track maintenance schedule. |
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Re: I WAS ON IT!!! Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by R46 5636 on Fri May 2 17:09:25 2014, in response to Re: I WAS ON IT!!! Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri May 2 17:01:19 2014. I know. I don't think the south motor (5636) went over the damaged section.(I am the south motor :P) |
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(Broken rail pics) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 17:14:02 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. |
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