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Re: 24 years ago today

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 28 20:47:08 2014, in response to Re: 24 years ago today, posted by Q4 on Thu Dec 13 11:57:46 2012.

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Queens Bypass super express along the LIRR.

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Re: 24 years ago today

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 28 22:52:25 2014, in response to Re: 24 years ago today, posted by Edwards! on Wed Dec 12 14:02:35 2012.

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Actually, it was Mario Cuomo who did not support the project.

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Re: 24 years ago today

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 28 23:49:12 2014, in response to Re: 24 years ago today, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 28 22:52:25 2014.

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Who at the time would NEVER cross Donald Manes and whatever he wanted.

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Re: 24 years ago today

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 29 00:06:33 2014, in response to Re: 24 years ago today, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 28 22:52:25 2014.

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Uhh huh..

Whatever the case..they[MTA] did not throw its weight behind this project even in the 90's when it was again under study..if they REALLY WANTED to build the BYPASS..they would have regardless of all the NIMBY whining.

To this very day,while ESA is being constructed..why isnt there space AND a ROW being built to support this route? there is one being built for AMTRAK under the MTA's control!
BILLIONS of dollars are being spent on this thing that is eating up transportation money for years to come..when its finally finished..only extremely well off folks will be able to use it since the cost of a ride will be 20 bucks one way from Jamaica!

the By pass was planned for,PAID for by the CITY TAX PAYERS already YEARS AGO..yet there is NOTHING to show for it,except a wishful dream..while LONG ISLAND reaps the benefit.

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Re: 24 years ago today

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 29 00:08:33 2014, in response to Re: 24 years ago today, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 28 23:49:12 2014.

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Manes was a madman..who made demands without thinking of the cost.
bet you think about it now.

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Re: 24 years ago today

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 29 00:11:47 2014, in response to Re: 24 years ago today, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 29 00:08:33 2014.

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Oh yeah ... I worked for the Padre and Manes was the one thing he was afraid of.

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Re: 24 years ago today

Posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 30 14:55:29 2014, in response to Re: 24 years ago today, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 29 00:06:33 2014.

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The bypass was supposed to use the 63rd Street tunnel. Even today, there is extra capacity in the tunnel which could be used for a superexpress line. Unfortunately, there is the question of whether the trunk lines (6th Ave, 8th Ave, Broadway) also have available capacity.

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Re: 24 years ago today

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 30 15:10:57 2014, in response to Re: 24 years ago today, posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 30 14:55:29 2014.

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Edwards has a thing for the bypass.

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Re: 24 years ago today

Posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 30 15:22:21 2014, in response to Re: 24 years ago today, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 30 15:10:57 2014.

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He isn't the only one here. :-)

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Re: 24 years ago today

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Apr 30 15:40:18 2014, in response to Re: 24 years ago today, posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 30 14:55:29 2014.

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The F line was directly slated for the 63rd st tunnel BYPASS Southeast Queens lines...while E service would have split between the LIE route and 179th st.
the SAS service would have used the 63rd st tunnel for new QB Express.

basically,routes were to be relocated..moved or replaced..especially the E line.




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Re: 24 years ago today

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Apr 30 15:49:09 2014, in response to Re: 24 years ago today, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 30 15:10:57 2014.

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sure..
its an excellent example of waste..political corruption..and lack of PROPER planning.


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