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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 00:05:41 2014, in response to Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Apr 13 23:59:26 2014. Riding on the back of a subway car is dangerous and the term "idiot" is definitely applicable to anyone who does it but "disgusting" seems a bit of a stretch.And taking a peek in an unlocked cab is hardly a major offense— at least once, I discovered one of the partially dismantled cabs in the middle of a 5-car set had been left unlocked and since that was the only seat in the car, I took it. |
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Posted by monorail on Mon Apr 14 01:06:39 2014, in response to Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Apr 13 23:59:26 2014. 'Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend'you only noticed it for ONE weekend????? |
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Posted by TurboThePunk on Mon Apr 14 01:38:57 2014, in response to Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Apr 13 23:59:26 2014. Deadass, this happens all the time. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Apr 14 07:35:10 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 00:05:41 2014. The unlocked cab did not give you permission to enter it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 14 07:56:46 2014, in response to Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Apr 13 23:59:26 2014. I haven't seen any evidence of how the railfanning hobby was put to shame. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 14 08:43:46 2014, in response to Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Apr 13 23:59:26 2014.  That bad, huh? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 14 08:44:48 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Apr 14 07:35:10 2014. If you see money sticking out of an ATM and you take it, it's still stealing. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 14 08:45:35 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by monorail on Mon Apr 14 01:06:39 2014. I noticed on the Holiday Nostalgia train in 2012. I made one round trip and got the fuck off. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Apr 14 09:34:11 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by monorail on Mon Apr 14 01:06:39 2014. It was talked about a lot this weekend. I'm sure it happens practically every day, but when someone posts his antics on YouTube, and someone posts it to forums like this and NYCTF, it'll spread like wildfire. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 14 10:32:43 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Apr 14 09:34:11 2014. What antics? Where is the evidence? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Apr 14 12:31:55 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Apr 14 07:35:10 2014. The unlocked cab did not give you permission to enter it.Those aren't the restrooms? |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 13:41:59 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 14 08:44:48 2014. If you see a nickel on the street and take it, it's generally not considered stealing. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Apr 14 13:42:14 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 14 10:32:43 2014. IAWTP. I have no idea what anyone is talking about. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 14 14:49:46 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by AlM on Mon Apr 14 13:42:14 2014. There have been many claims of railfan rowdiness onboard the R-32 R train but no one has posted or linked to a first-hand account of the events, AFAIK. I'm not necessarily doubting the claims but people should be able to point to the source of the claims they are repeating. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 14 14:53:58 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Apr 14 12:31:55 2014. Or those napping spaces they have in some airports? |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 21:22:16 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Apr 14 07:35:10 2014. Inanimate objects never gave me permission to do anything.It was in a public place. It was unlocked. There was no obvious indication that it was off-limits. It was little more than a closet with a seat in it. I see nothing wrong with sitting in that seat. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Apr 14 21:50:24 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 21:22:16 2014. Plus by sitting in it, you made sure it was well guarded against evildoers. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 22:41:43 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Apr 14 21:50:24 2014. :)I only got to sit in it for a few stops before an express train happened. Then I climbed out the window because doors are for people who don't have cushiony seats. |
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Posted by MTA T on Tue Apr 15 01:09:42 2014, in response to Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Apr 13 23:59:26 2014. These R32 R foamer complaints are pretty bad too tbh. |
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Posted by Lord Vader on Tue Apr 15 01:20:19 2014, in response to Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Apr 13 23:59:26 2014. Truth. |
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Posted by Patrick Boylan on Tue Apr 15 06:00:47 2014, in response to Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Apr 13 23:59:26 2014. Nilet, decades ago I was on a Philly Frankford line train at a place where the elevated runs next to a playground. A basketball came onto the structure's catwalk. The train stopped, then I saw our motorman on the catwalk toss the ball back to the playground, he walked back to the train, we started moving again. He had gone out of and back in through the cab window. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Apr 15 06:52:45 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by MTA T on Tue Apr 15 01:09:42 2014. What I heard form the video was a bunch of very loud people. I can't ascertain from the video as to their body hygiene. If the smell was overbearing, I'd move to another car.NYCTA has a wonderful subway system,I'm limited to very few lines with SEPTA. |
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Posted by Randyo on Tue Apr 15 15:58:15 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 21:22:16 2014. An operator's cab is NOT a public place even if the door happens to be unlocked. If a person walks up to a private residence, finds the door unlocked and enters that individual is still guilty of the crime of "breaking and entering." Despite the door being unlocked anyone who enters is still guilty of unlawful entry! |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:48:11 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Randyo on Tue Apr 15 15:58:15 2014. An operator's cab is NOT a public place even if the door happens to be unlocked.It wasn't an operator's cab. It was little more than a closet. If a person walks up to a private residence, finds the door unlocked and enters that individual is still guilty of the crime of "breaking and entering." Despite the door being unlocked anyone who enters is still guilty of unlawful entry! Apples to oranges. A private residence is unmistakably private. A subway car is not. If you open a closet door in a public building, that's not unlawful entry. |
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Posted by Randyo on Tue Apr 15 17:45:55 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Apr 14 07:35:10 2014. If it was a "partially dismantled" cab, and the door to the actual T/O's controls was locked, then that portion of the cab with the seat in it was open to the public. I encountered a similar situation a few years ago on the Flushing Line and the T/O had the cab door closed over to the right hand corner but the rest of the cab was accessible to the public so I just walked up to the RFW and took advantage. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 17:56:43 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Randyo on Tue Apr 15 17:45:55 2014. The "cab" I entered was in the middle of what's now a five-car set. The T/O's controls had been removed. The master controller was gone, and the brake valve had been capped. There was nothing left except the seat.Although I did once get a RFW in a half-cab like you described too. |
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Posted by Randyo on Tue Apr 15 18:50:39 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 17:56:43 2014. I though it was an unlocked cab of an R-188, but even so, there are certain circuit breakers and other switches in there that should be kept locked away from the general public. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Apr 15 19:14:40 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Randyo on Tue Apr 15 18:50:39 2014. It's amazing how nilet can justify his illegal behavior.Unoccupied cabs, be they locked or unlocked are off limits to the public. PERIOD. |
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Posted by Gamera on Tue Apr 15 19:22:20 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Apr 15 19:14:40 2014. It is all becoming clear... Then he complains of "harassment".. We don't buy the act any more |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 15 19:25:59 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Apr 15 19:14:40 2014. They forgot to put that into the Rules of Conduct.I suppose you'll say it was entering a restricted area. But that would only apply if it had a sign saying Do Not Enter. |
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Posted by BrightonDyre on Tue Apr 15 20:26:45 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Randyo on Tue Apr 15 17:45:55 2014. I apologize, I am way out of the loop. What happened this weekend? |
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Posted by GojiMet86 on Wed Apr 16 13:26:35 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by BrightonDyre on Tue Apr 15 20:26:45 2014. The R32 ran on the (R) Saturday and someone decided it was a nice idea to subway surf the back of the train. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 16 17:00:22 2014, in response to Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Apr 13 23:59:26 2014. Agreed! It was not just the little miscreant riding on the outside of the train but the two other "railfans" for whom the event was apparently staged so they could shoot videos of it and then post it. |
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Posted by Ray Jules on Wed Apr 16 17:17:56 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 16 17:00:22 2014. As discussed earlier this week, the other two railfans who you are referring to did not know that there was somebody surfing the rear of the train. In fact, they reported the incident to the T/O of the next train to arrive at the station.The event was not staged, they just happened to be in the right place at the right time. Everyone else who was filming the R32 R along the 4th Avenue line on that trip down also ended up with the surprise of a train surfer showing up in their video. Furthermore, in the video description of the posted video that depicts the surfer, the railfan who uploaded the video calls the surfer a "bimbo" and a "moron", hardly condoning the actions of the train surfer. He did not realize the implications of posting the video, and once they were made clear, he took the video down. The two railfans who filmed the train caught a lot of crap from uninformed folks who blindly accepted the notion that the event was staged, even though it was apparently their footage that allowed for the identification of the train surfer and the later issuance of a warrant for his arrest. It really isn't fair that these two fans would be stigmatized for something they had no involvement with. |
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Posted by The Orion Kid on Wed Apr 16 17:22:31 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Ray Jules on Wed Apr 16 17:17:56 2014. Word.And the way they were treated by the other fans was going way too far. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Apr 16 17:27:39 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Apr 14 12:31:55 2014. 
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 16 22:54:40 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Ray Jules on Wed Apr 16 17:17:56 2014. Its a lucky thing that you are there to defend them. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 02:52:00 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Gamera on Tue Apr 15 19:22:20 2014. Right, because the War On Photography is not a well-established nationwide (if not worldwide) problem and is easily dismissed by noticing that I once entered an unlocked closet to find a seat. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 05:11:13 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Apr 15 19:14:40 2014. There's nothing illegal about it.And it wasn't a cab. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 05:13:32 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Randyo on Tue Apr 15 18:50:39 2014. Not nearly recent enough for an R188.If there were any switches in there, I didn't notice them. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 17 09:26:51 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 05:11:13 2014. Spin it however you want: the only authorized for you to ride in a subway car is within the car body with everybody else.You think you're special but you're not. Then you cry that you're being harassed in your own mind. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 10:31:41 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 17 09:26:51 2014. I was within the car body, and it was neither unauthorised nor illegal.I never said I was special. And declaring the War On Photography to be justified (either in general or in my specific case) is a hazardous thing for you to do— it's not so easy to jump back from Conclusions, so I hope you're a strong swimmer. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Thu Apr 17 10:49:38 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 10:31:41 2014. There you go again picking and choosing the words that justify your behavior out of someone elses sentence.In everything you say you are digging your (proverbial) grave deeper. You are not entitled to a private area in a subway car. Your place is with everybody else, not inside a "closet" as you call it. You not knowing there are circuit breakers in a "closet" does not give you permission to be inside one. |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Apr 17 11:24:22 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Thu Apr 17 10:49:38 2014. This reminds me of a piece of certain dialogue in the 1974 film, The Taking of Pelham One Two Three:Frank Correll: "Pelham One Two Three, what do you mean the train has been taken? Are you the motorman? Mr. Blue: "Negative." Frank Correll:"Well, then, who are you? Nobody's authorized to be in that cab, except the lousy motorman! Now identify yourself!" Apart from a T/O who informed a friend of mine back in my high school days, a fictional film made that perfectly clear, and I have kept that in mind, since. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 12:22:26 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Thu Apr 17 10:49:38 2014. You can pick and choose any words you like. It doesn't change the fact that I did nothing wrong, nothing illegal, and nothing dangerous— and certainly nothing involving any graves, proverbial or otherwise.I was riding in the same subway car as dozens of other people. There was one seat left, so I took it. That a train operator may have once sat in it in decades past, before the cars were converted into sets and the cab dismantled does not make it wrong or illegal. It was a public subway car on an in-service train, and there was no indication that seat was off limits. |
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Posted by Ray Jules on Thu Apr 17 12:33:39 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 12:22:26 2014. That's borderline irrational. There is such thing called the "spirit of the law" you know. Just because it doesn't explicitly say it is illegal doesn't mean you should be allowed in there. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 17 12:35:29 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Ray Jules on Wed Apr 16 17:17:56 2014. He did not realize the implications of posting the video, and once they were made clear, he took the video down.I agree with everything you wrote, except for that part. |
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Posted by Ray Jules on Thu Apr 17 12:38:53 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 17 12:35:29 2014. What about it don' t you agree with? The fact that he took the video down? He did so because he was pressured by others, not on his own accord. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 13:13:25 2014, in response to Re: Thanks to everyone who put the railfanning hobby to shame this weekend., posted by Ray Jules on Thu Apr 17 12:33:39 2014. I don't see any reason why I shouldn't be allowed to take the seat.If you'd rather stand, you're free to. The spirit of the law is to provide a safe orderly subway, and that's certainly not violated by my taking an unoccupied seat. |
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