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A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Apr 11 16:59:04 2014

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Spotted yesterday…
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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Apr 11 17:10:05 2014, in response to A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Apr 11 16:59:04 2014.

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If it had made its way over to the IRT that would be VERY lost

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 11 17:15:04 2014, in response to A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Apr 11 16:59:04 2014.

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R46's are achieving sentience and are homesick for Jamaica Yard.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Apr 11 17:26:33 2014, in response to A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Apr 11 16:59:04 2014.

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Misplaced an (A) train, they have...how embarrassing...how embarrassing!

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Joe V on Fri Apr 11 17:39:46 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Apr 11 17:26:33 2014.

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Had it been an R10, she would have ignored the switchpoint and roared up CPW.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 11 17:45:09 2014, in response to A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Apr 11 16:59:04 2014.

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When the railroad gets jacked, gotta send it somewhere to get it out of the way. Everything old is new again. Join TWU and see the world! :)

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri Apr 11 17:57:06 2014, in response to A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Apr 11 16:59:04 2014.

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Hmm... That train IS lost! This reminds me of a detour back in 1999, when I was on a northbound R68 D train was diverted over to the Q line, (back when the Q was terminated at 21st St-Queensbridge) once that train was delayed at 34th St/Herald Sq for a lengthy period of time. It's sucks to be on the business end of this, but then again, it also makes for a great photo op!

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by andy on Fri Apr 11 17:59:27 2014, in response to A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Apr 11 16:59:04 2014.

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Assuming this is a NB train - just let it continue to 63rd Drive on the NB local track, then take the switch for the Rockaway Line and then continue across Queens and Jamaica Bay to Far Rock.

LOL

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 11 18:19:59 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri Apr 11 17:57:06 2014.

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The most fun detours I spotted in person were the E to 168th (that I never got photos of) and a B sent down the Culver line (which I do).

That doesn't count planned detours.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 11 18:21:09 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by andy on Fri Apr 11 17:59:27 2014.

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No way— that part of the Rockaway line hasn't been converted for subway use so the FRA would eat them alive.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Randyo on Fri Apr 11 18:52:35 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 11 18:21:09 2014.

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But as an abandoned line, it's not under FRA jurisdiction either.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Hart Bus on Fri Apr 11 18:56:41 2014, in response to A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Apr 11 16:59:04 2014.

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Was that a computer glitch or were all cars signed that way ?

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Apr 11 19:40:55 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Hart Bus on Fri Apr 11 18:56:41 2014.

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Bingo.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Apr 11 20:17:17 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 11 17:45:09 2014.

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...As long as your name isn't Lindsley:)

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 11 22:38:47 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Randyo on Fri Apr 11 18:52:35 2014.

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Rails ain't been polished either ... that train would be el desaparecido. ("The disappeared") as soon as it crossed over. :)

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 11 22:52:12 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Apr 11 20:17:17 2014.

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There is nothing I enjoyed more than Mike's press conferences back then. :)

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by menJop on Sat Apr 12 01:32:02 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 11 22:38:47 2014.

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There's also the problem of how to 'splain to the boss that you hit a tree. There probably isn't even form for that one.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 12 01:59:27 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by menJop on Sat Apr 12 01:32:02 2014.

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Actually, there is ... happens every now and then on the Brighton and Sea Bits. :)

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 12 09:50:12 2014, in response to A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Apr 11 16:59:04 2014.

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Never mind Who's on First....

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 12 09:50:47 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 11 17:45:09 2014.

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The show must go on!:)

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 12 09:52:31 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 11 22:52:12 2014.

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Hey Kev, you were rerouted to Queens a time or two in your day, weren't you?

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 12 10:25:26 2014, in response to A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Apr 11 16:59:04 2014.

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Since there is no way that a Southbound A train can end up on the Queens Blvd Line without a reverse move at some point. I would guess that its more likely that the Sign Control Unit for that pair of cars was not responding to the command from the head car or someone was tampering with the side signs.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Apr 12 11:45:38 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 11 22:52:12 2014.

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"...and the judge can drop dead in his black robes!!"

Gotta love it. Must do some research & find some books on who some used to call "Red Mike" (but never to his face)

You don't see union leaders fight for their people like that anymore


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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Apr 12 11:55:46 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Hart Bus on Fri Apr 11 18:56:41 2014.

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You may be on to something. But it's probably not software-related.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Apr 12 11:59:44 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 11 22:52:12 2014.

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I was at grad school during the 1966 strike. I did rig up a radio to pull in the local NYC AM stations. I caught one of Mike's press conferences. One of my roommates was from Chicago and had not heard Mike. The following exchange convulsed him with laughter.

Reporter: Mike they say you can't get along with Mayor Lindsay because he's a Republican.

Quill: We got along farrr twelve years with Gooveror Dooeeeh and he wasn't exactly what you would call a soo-ci-al-ist.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by chud1 on Sat Apr 12 12:54:52 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 12 09:50:12 2014.

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what's on second and i don't know is on 3rd.
chud1.
:)....

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Apr 12 13:26:01 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Apr 12 11:45:38 2014.

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Quill taught the world how to handle a press conference. :)

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Apr 12 13:58:18 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 12 10:25:26 2014.

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A northbound A train could have been sent to the Queens Blvd line, and that pic would show it on its way back… Just saying.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Apr 12 13:59:09 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by andy on Fri Apr 11 17:59:27 2014.

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Check the sign hanging above the train…

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Hart Bus on Sat Apr 12 14:04:12 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by chud1 on Sat Apr 12 12:54:52 2014.

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Who is playing left field? Abbot or Costello ?

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Apr 12 14:20:39 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Randyo on Fri Apr 11 18:52:35 2014.

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Not to split hairs here, but technically speaking, the line wasn't "abandoned" but the service was simply" suspended" or "discontinued". One day trains ran, the next day, they didn't.
The LIRR just shut off the juice & walked away from it. Rails, both running & 3d & wayside signals left to be re-claimed by nature. Not an ounce of material removed. As far as I know, the state still retains title to the right of way.

But=abandoned= works for the masses, like e.g. If you want to see the Mets, take the #7 "subway" to Mets-Willets Point "subway' Sta.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 12 15:16:38 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Apr 12 13:58:18 2014.

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I think his point was a n/b A would be showing 207 as the terminal, not Far Rock.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Apr 12 15:19:58 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 12 15:16:38 2014.

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Okay, but that's not a northbound train.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by chud1 on Sat Apr 12 15:38:26 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Hart Bus on Sat Apr 12 14:04:12 2014.

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i forget da rest of it.
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:)....

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 12 15:39:05 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Apr 12 13:58:18 2014.

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Yup. I remember in 1999 or so being on an R46 E sent to Euclid (this was during a brief time when there were maybe 2 R46s on the E at any given moment). On the way back the signs said E to Jamaica Center. And in both directions we used the Fulton St Express.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Randyo on Sat Apr 12 15:45:30 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Apr 12 14:20:39 2014.

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Since the MTA is a state agency, then it would be perfectly all right for any sub agency of the MTA to utilize it whether it be the LIRR or the NYCTA.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 12 17:17:20 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Apr 12 11:59:44 2014.

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Mike was fabulous in getting Linsley all riled up. :)

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 12 17:18:24 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Apr 12 11:45:38 2014.

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Yep ... then I joined TWU and found out what the shop stewards were like. :(

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 12 17:19:08 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 12 09:52:31 2014.

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Queens, other parts of Brooklyn, if only the cars weren't so darned wide, probably would have seen Flushing too. :)

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Apr 12 17:23:33 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 12 09:50:12 2014.

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Guess Who is on second Yes is on Third
from the stoned version of the 70s.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 12 18:48:38 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Apr 12 13:58:18 2014.

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A northbound "A" train would not be showing Far Rockaway as a destination. It would be showing a northern terminal such as 207th St, 200th St or 168th St.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 12 18:59:53 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 12 18:48:38 2014.

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But a southbound A would show Far Rockaway, and a northbound A sent up Queens Boulevard would have to go back the way it came.

The train in the pic is southbound, so the "Far Rockaway" sign is accurate.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 12 19:45:46 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 12 18:59:53 2014.

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Yes, you obviously understood my point about north and south bound trains. We're half way there. Now my main point was that if it were a south-bound train, there is no way that it could have "become lost" and ended up at Roosevelt Ave Station because to do so would require a reverse move.





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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Apr 12 19:50:12 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 12 17:17:20 2014.

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Reaching back to the memory banks, Quill had a hard on for Lindsay. Something about his education, presence, & overall apparence of elitism that pissed Quill off. (Jealous, maybe?) Quill was always able to make a deal with Wagner at the last minute on previous contract cliffhangers.

No deal with Lindsley, 13 day strike ensued & prettymuch brought the city to its knees.I had 9 days of school I had to make up!!

Never thought I'd miss the Q 44 ride over the Whitestone Br to St Helenas!

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 12 19:53:45 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 12 19:45:46 2014.

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True. This train was probably on its way back to the A from being re-routed on its northbound trip.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 12 19:54:54 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Apr 12 19:50:12 2014.

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Heh. Quill really had a thing for limousine republicans, and Lindsay certainly fit that bill. Lindsay was in congress before becoming mayor and IIRC, there was some bill that Quill wanted passed and Lindsay blew him off over it. Something to that effect. But Quill had a hardon for him before he became mayor and it only went downhill from there. :)

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 12 20:45:04 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 12 19:53:45 2014.

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Except that unless things have changed radically, such a train would have been sent back light and resumed service when it reached its "home line".

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 12 20:51:52 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 12 19:54:54 2014.

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Yes in deed. The TWU walked out on January 1, 1966 which was Lindsay's first day in office. The strike occurred because of the policies of Abe Beame. Under Lindsay, Transit Workers and other Civil Servants received a great pension plan. Lindsay also joined the democratic party in 1971 but why let a few facts interfere with another of your (not so) great political rants.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 12 21:01:32 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Apr 12 19:50:12 2014.

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Quill actually ambushed Lindsay on his first day in office. Lindsay was a liberal and Quill anticipated that Lindsay would cave quickly. He didn't cave quickly but he did give in and transit workers did quite well as a result.

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Re: A VERY Lost A Train!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 12 21:12:31 2014, in response to Re: A VERY Lost A Train!, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 12 21:01:32 2014.

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Quill knew Lindsay LONG before he became mayor. He knew Lindsay wouldn't cave and so he taught him a lesson that he'd been waiting to dish up for a couple of years.

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