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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 28 09:14:15 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Thu Feb 27 13:43:36 2014.

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Once again, the discussion is not about being arrested for photography, as can be seen very well from the post you linked.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 28 09:14:42 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Thu Feb 27 13:44:37 2014.

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Yes, LOL!!

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 28 09:20:44 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Feb 27 17:39:10 2014.

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Well it's against the Facility Operation Code.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Fri Feb 28 09:31:52 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 28 09:07:45 2014.

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You, um, do realise the auto filter is still in place, right? Anybody who types your name can trivially verify that. No need to bother Larry trying to confirm it; I'm sure he'd be quite happy to be dragged into another of your pointless spats.

And we both know that there's no way to verify that your lengthy hiatus was the result of an actual ban, or a polite suggestion that you would be banned if you didn't knock it off, or somesuch. As for your claim that we should ask Larry— since when has Larry revealed any details about SubChat politics to anyone? He was willing to implement a filter on your behalf to protect you from your childish antics, so do you really think he's going to tell me the sordid details of why you got banned?

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Fri Feb 28 09:34:52 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 28 09:14:42 2014.

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Well thank you for admitting it. I wouldn't normally argue with a 12-year-old, but I'm really bored.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Fri Feb 28 09:36:58 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 28 09:14:15 2014.

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Ah, once again, you're having trouble understanding implied statements.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Fri Feb 28 09:48:52 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 28 09:12:37 2014.

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Why would I claim you can be arrested for photography? Why would I claim the PANYNJ is an entirely private entity?

I can't even begin to fathom why you spew any of the nonsense that you put on this board, but the fact remains that you claimed the former here (read prior posts for context) and implied it here, while you claimed the latter here, and implied it here.

You need to learn that if someone knowledgable says something factually stupid, then you must be misunderstanding him.

I hate to break it to you, but this is not only untrue, it is, in your case, sadly moot.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Feb 28 10:04:03 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Feb 27 17:39:10 2014.

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The station looks extravagant, mentions that in the article.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 28 10:09:41 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Thu Feb 27 09:18:04 2014.

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Private railroads also have their own police forces, so something doesn't have to be a government entity to have its own police.

That some facility belongs to the government doesn't make it the same as a public street. If you were invited to some government facility not ordinarily held open to the public and told not to take photos, would you consider such request or order a violation of your constitutional rights?

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 28 10:14:53 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 28 10:09:41 2014.

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If you were invited to some government facility not ordinarily held open to the public and told not to take photos, would you consider such request or order a violation of your constitutional rights?

One could make a strong argument that the onus ought to be on the government to justify why a ban on photos was in the public interest.



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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Fri Feb 28 10:42:21 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 28 10:09:41 2014.

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Private railroad police are generally limited to areas where normal police can't readily respond to every trespasser, and certainly aren't allowed to enforce railroad policies as if they were laws.

The second example is moot, as PATH is, in fact, open to the public and no more a "private" facility than the subway.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 28 15:08:47 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Fri Feb 28 10:42:21 2014.

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The subway is a "private" facility in that its access is not unlimited. It is no different than if a private corporation operated it.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Fri Feb 28 17:22:34 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 28 15:08:47 2014.

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It's still a public place for 1st amendment purposes.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 1 03:33:15 2014, in response to First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by seabeachexpress on Tue Feb 25 09:01:33 2014.

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Has anybody been there yet and seen it? Were tracks 3, 4 or 5 closed with the opening of track 1? Is the entry/exit still via the temporary exit onto Vesey and the new tunnel to the WFC/Brookfield Place?

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 1 13:02:16 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 28 09:07:45 2014.

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Brian Weinberg, aka Brian Weinberg, would you kindly shut the fuck up?

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Mar 1 15:40:22 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 1 03:33:15 2014.

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The station is closed again this weekend, and apparently will be closed every weekend all year, with maybe a few exceptions. They really ought to publicize that fact more.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 07:28:13 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Fri Feb 28 09:31:52 2014.

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See previous post. Put up or shut up. Backup your claims or get out.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 07:28:35 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 1 13:02:16 2014.

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???

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 08:37:38 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 07:28:13 2014.

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See my previous post. Type your own name.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 3 09:12:36 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Fri Feb 28 09:31:52 2014.

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You, um, do realise the auto filter is still in place, right?

If it ever was, it isn't now.


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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 09:20:29 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 3 09:12:36 2014.

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No? It was as of a few days ago.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 3 09:54:23 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 09:20:29 2014.

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Put this into Google:

"I know I'm being silly" site:subchat.com


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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Mar 3 10:04:47 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 3 09:54:23 2014.

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Here's a direct link to the thread



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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Mar 3 10:48:20 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Easy on Wed Feb 26 22:30:17 2014.

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My dad has expired for sometime now.

And if you are referring to my son...I see he had you going so bad you Still think it was me?
HA!

Its cool..I like that.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 10:54:23 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 08:37:38 2014.

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What does typing my name have to do with your claim that I requested it?

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 10:55:20 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 09:20:29 2014.

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LOL!

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 10:56:45 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 10:54:23 2014.

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It will demonstrate that the filter is still active. Unless you're trying to claim that Larry, completely of his own accord, decided to implement a filter to protect one particular SubChattter, which seems more than a little far-fetched.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 12:08:13 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Fri Feb 28 10:42:21 2014.

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certainly aren't allowed to enforce railroad policies as if they were laws.

No one rationally claims that they can. What rational people do claim is that they can enforce the policies that determine whether or not you have permission to be on railroad property. And if you violate such policies and further become a trespasser, then they can enforce the law against trespassing. This is what you continue to not understand.


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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 12:14:10 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 10:56:45 2014.

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It will demonstrate that the filter is still active.

And as you've FINALLY figured out, that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with your claim.

Unless you're trying to claim that Larry, completely of his own accord, decided to implement a filter to protect one particular SubChattter, which seems more than a little far-fetched.

I'm not claiming anything. I'm telling you that your claims have no basis in fact and you've provided no backup/proff. Yes, what you just wrote is one of many possible scenarios, none of which you can make any claims about since you have no proff.




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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 13:09:20 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 12:14:10 2014.

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Let's see— I claimed the filter was installed, and you denied that it exists. That it is still active is very relevant.

And yes, you are claiming something— namely, that you did not ask Larry to install the filter whose existence has been proven despite your repeated denials. If you did not ask Larry to install the filter, then Larry must have installed it without your input, which (as noted) is rather far-fetched. Pointing out that the only alternative to my position is absurd is a valid argument; the burden is now on you to prove that the alternative is not absurd or that there is a third option I haven't considered.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 13:12:03 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 13:09:20 2014.

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you denied that it exists.

I did no such thing.

the filter whose existence has been proven despite your repeated denials

I did no such thing.

Pointing out that the only alternative to my position is absurd is a valid argument; the burden is now on you to prove that the alternative is not absurd or that there is a third option I haven't considered.

Nope. You made a specific claim. The burden is on you to prove it.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 13:14:01 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 12:08:13 2014.

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You claimed I could be arrested for photography at the start of this subthread, so I guess I have to thank you for admitting you're not rational.

Moreover, while the question of whether one has permission to be on railroad property is fairly clear-cut for a private railroad (especially one that does not provide passenger service), it is not so clear-cut for property owned by a quasi-government agency that is completely open to the public.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 13:18:04 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 13:12:03 2014.

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You denied the filter in this post, and as I explained previously, I did prove my claim; you can read said proof here at your leisure.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 13:22:30 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 10:55:20 2014.

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You know, it wouldn't be entirely inaccurate to claim that I'm arguing with you "for the lulz," but you're the one who keeps saying "LOL" every few posts.

Could you knock it off? This whole thing isn't nearly as fun when you demonstrate the mannerisms of a 12-year-old instead of just the immaturity.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 3 13:40:07 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 13:09:20 2014.

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That it is still active is very relevant.

However, it is not still active, or at least it wasn't last Friday.



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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 14:14:45 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 3 13:40:07 2014.

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It's active right now; I just checked an old post. Although curiously, it only seems to apply in threaded view; if you click "view flat," the filter isn't in effect. I suppose it may only apply to SubChat and not OTChat.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 14:21:41 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 13:18:04 2014.

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You denied the filter in this post
No I didn't! I denied that I requested a filter and that he had banned and unbanned me. Hence the "I did what? He did what? LOL!".

and as I explained previously, I did prove my claim;
No you didn't. You did not prove that I requested a filter.

you can read said proof here at your leisure.
That's not proof of your claim. It's also not even proof of the filter's existence since as you've been told, there's no such filter right now.



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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 14:23:47 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 13:14:01 2014.

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You claimed I could be arrested for photography at the start of this subthread
No I didn't. Again, why would I say that when I know that's not true (I mean you could be arrested for photography, but not legally).

Moreover, while the question of whether one has permission to be on railroad property is fairly clear-cut for a private railroad (especially one that does not provide passenger service), it is not so clear-cut for property owned by a quasi-government agency that is completely open to the public.
The policy is on the wall.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 14:25:13 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 13:22:30 2014.

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Nope! LOL! This whole thing is hilarious! I just can't believe that someone (you) who at times appears to be intelligent has gotten so much wrong in this thread.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 14:42:15 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 14:21:41 2014.

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No I didn't! I denied that I requested a filter...

No? Well you denied the filter's existence two sentences from here, so I guess it doesn't matter now anyway.

No you didn't. You did not prove that I requested a filter.

Yes, I did. I proved that the only alternatives to that position are absurd, ergo my position must be correct. The burden is now on you to provide a non-absurd alternative to my position.

That's not proof of your claim. It's also not even proof of the filter's existence since as you've been told, there's no such filter right now.

Ah, there you go, denying that the filter exists. If you're so confident of that position, type your own name and prove it.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 14:47:05 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 14:25:13 2014.

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Nope! LOL!

Well, if you wish to continue acting like a 12-year-old, I suppose that's up to you. Frankly, I only warned you for your own benefit. Although if you keep it up, I might just have to start talking down to you in order to accommodate your diminished levels of maturity.

This whole thing is hilarious!

I'm glad you find it just as entertaining as I do! :)

Were this conversation being held in person, I'd ask you for a dance.

I just can't believe that someone (you) who at times appears to be intelligent has gotten so much wrong in this thread.

Project any harder and you could point yourself at a wall and show off powerpoint presentations.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 14:47:56 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 14:23:47 2014.

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Missing the point as usual again, aren't you?

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 3 19:02:24 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 09:20:29 2014.

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Hmm, in my post here, I had to use the "trick" to get around the filter to make his name appear the second time. The one typed normally was turned into "Terrapin Station". I took a gamble that the filter was still there, my post would have looked quite silly if it wasn't.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 3 19:05:36 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 14:14:45 2014.

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The filter automatically changes the text at posting. The preview shows the original text, but the message that is actually posted does not. Rather devious...

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by merrick1 on Mon Mar 3 19:22:46 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 13:09:20 2014.

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Brian Weinberg

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by merrick1 on Mon Mar 3 19:23:19 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by merrick1 on Mon Mar 3 19:22:46 2014.

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Hey, it works!

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Gamera on Mon Mar 3 21:46:28 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 28 09:07:45 2014.

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No, we'll ask Larry about each of your three exact claims and whoever is wrong has to leave this website forever.

1. That I asked for an auto filter.


If you didn't ask for it then perhaps you demanded it

OR

You had admin rights and inserted the code for it yourself

Filter test:
Brian Weinberg



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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Gamera on Mon Mar 3 21:48:56 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Gamera on Mon Mar 3 21:46:28 2014.

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Test results:

As of Mon Mar 3 21:46:28 2014 the filter works. However it cannot be seen in the preview - it only works upon posting

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Mar 3 22:47:27 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Gamera on Mon Mar 3 21:48:56 2014.

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Plus, as has been noted, it doesn't work in "view flat" mode. Try clicking the "view flat", then the "view threaded" link (on the right just above the main subject line), and watch the text change from "Terrapin Station" to his actual name and back.

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Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Tue Mar 4 02:30:25 2014, in response to Re: First platform to open for new World Trade Center PATH station, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 3 13:09:20 2014.

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