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The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 12:43:42 2005

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Haha! Made you look!

Seriously though, I just found this photo in the Newest images section of nycsubway.org....I guess it's obvious who stook the photo:



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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 15 13:00:10 2005, in response to The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 12:43:42 2005.

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Ok... What's with the image in the cab window?

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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by JohnnyMints on Mon Aug 15 13:35:10 2005, in response to Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 15 13:00:10 2005.

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Ghost.

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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Aug 15 14:42:07 2005, in response to The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 12:43:42 2005.

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Are you sure it's not some creative photoshopping?

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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by JBar387 on Mon Aug 15 14:57:01 2005, in response to Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Aug 15 14:42:07 2005.

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I'm wondering why they let that train run with A broken headlight.

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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 15:02:39 2005, in response to Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by JBar387 on Mon Aug 15 14:57:01 2005.

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The photo is dated 1982. That was the least of their problems in 1982.

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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 15:10:45 2005, in response to Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Aug 15 14:42:07 2005.

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It's a scan of a slide, so not photoshopped. Steve Zabel was known for his "staged" photos. He actually put that rollsign in there to look like that.

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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by R30A on Mon Aug 15 15:39:25 2005, in response to Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Aug 15 14:42:07 2005.

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Zabel was dead before photoshop came out


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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by P.Opus on Mon Aug 15 16:22:27 2005, in response to Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 15:10:45 2005.

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How does it being a scan of a slide preclude it having been photoshopped?



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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 15 16:33:22 2005, in response to Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by R30A on Mon Aug 15 15:39:25 2005.

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It's easy to put a homemade sign in the sign-box. Get your dimensions and font correct and roll the train(or trolley) sign down to the white blank area. Carefully insert the sign in that area and the back-lighting or normal light will show your new sign. We did it on a PCC-II trip so we had the trolley reading "12" - 12th & South".

We needed 2 signs, the route number and the destination.
It looked really good.

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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by L Train on Mon Aug 15 17:18:11 2005, in response to The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 12:43:42 2005.

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What's zabel?

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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 15 17:59:04 2005, in response to Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by L Train on Mon Aug 15 17:18:11 2005.

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The photographer.

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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 15 18:04:43 2005, in response to Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 15 16:33:22 2005.

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Damn, Chuck, that is so low-tech. Hah!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 15 18:11:07 2005, in response to The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 12:43:42 2005.

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I saw that in ABPR last week and was waiting for Dave to add it to his site. There's another with the modern purple "7" bullet at the same location.

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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 15 18:13:10 2005, in response to Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by JBar387 on Mon Aug 15 14:57:01 2005.

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LMAO!

I guess people today who didn't experience the deferred maintenance era just can't grasp how bad stuff got. Busted headlights were a minor annoyance.

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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by R30A on Mon Aug 15 18:14:07 2005, in response to Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 15 16:33:22 2005.

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I know how its done.

How Else did I get a Photo of an R62A sating it was a Blue B train?


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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 15 18:16:12 2005, in response to Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by L Train on Mon Aug 15 17:18:11 2005.

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The long answer involves a lot of tittilation and violence. The short answer will suffice: it's the name of the photogapher.

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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 15 18:29:57 2005, in response to Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 15 18:04:43 2005.

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I know. Everything now is electronic. SEPTA had to pull New Flyer buses from their Route 75 (formerly trackless) b/c the electronic signs wouldn't show a 75 sign. So much for electronics!

I like it when they put a cardboard sign in the windshield of a new bus!!

Sorry, I guess this should be on Bus-Chat!!

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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 20:34:50 2005, in response to Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by P.Opus on Mon Aug 15 16:22:27 2005.

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It perhaps doesn't, however Steve did this sort of thing all the time. Many of his photos have "strange" rollsigns if you look at nycsubway.org. He placed them there physically, not digially.

In fact, here he even forgot to move the real rollsign out of view of the photo!! It's sitting by his bag on the platform:





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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 15 20:48:22 2005, in response to Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 15 20:34:50 2005.

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Can't imagine a T/O doing that today.

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Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 15 21:01:53 2005, in response to Re: The Z Train runs on the Franklin Shuttle, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 15 18:11:07 2005.

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And here it is:


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