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Posted by snarf368 on Fri Nov 15 22:19:18 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Nov 14 04:59:11 2013. Mitch45 said "I can understand some of your points, but "5 AVENUE" instead of "5 AVE"? That's being just a wee bit anal. "It's annoying and disturbing that the lazy hack that programs these displays is too lazy to type out the whole word Avenue. This is the case on many stations on NTT trains. Sure 99.99% of riders knows Ave stands for Avenue and St stands for Street but there's always a percentage of riders, tourists, etc that don't know and would benefit from the whole word. If you think it doesn't impact service it does as we have all seen riders asking conductors for direction when they're busy trying to do their job of opening/closing doors. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 16 00:04:31 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by snarf368 on Fri Nov 15 22:13:26 2013. It's a glitch that occurs at 125 Street southbound if the trains enters so fast that the distance counter turns over to station zero before the transfers had a chance to play. It's fixed by the T/O or C/R resynching the announcements. But most don't bother. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Nov 16 10:09:49 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 16 00:04:31 2013. Thanks! I always wondered about that... |
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Posted by R46 5636 on Sat Nov 16 11:15:25 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by snarf368 on Fri Nov 15 22:19:18 2013. The reason the MTA tries to keep the amount of text minimal on the LED signs is because if it goes over a certain limit, It will scroll (Just look at the 21 St - Queensbridge programming for the (Q) on the R160).Now I don't get why they named the model "R188"... It's basically the same exact model as an R142A except with CBTC. For the ones that disagree with me, then why not call the R160 that can run on the (L) something different than the R160 that can't run on the (L)? They're the same model... So why aren't the R142A and the R188 the same model? Just because they were built several years apart doesn't mean they're different... Also, can't the R142A on the (4) support CBTC? If so, wouldn't it have been cheaper to just add the C-car to those cars and run them on the (7)? |
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Posted by merrick1 on Sat Nov 16 11:36:26 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by R46 5636 on Sat Nov 16 11:15:25 2013. Aren't R numbers actually contract numbers rather than model numbers? |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Sat Nov 16 12:28:17 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by merrick1 on Sat Nov 16 11:36:26 2013. Correct |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Nov 16 16:01:13 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by R46 5636 on Sat Nov 16 11:15:25 2013. That's what they're doing with some of the R142A cars. For example, the first set, 7211-7220 now has R188 C car 7899 mixed in. |
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Posted by Randyo on Sat Nov 16 16:19:03 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by SubwaySurf on Sat Nov 16 12:28:17 2013. Unlike the BMT and IRT that had AB (67 ft steel) cars and Lo-Vs respectively that were supplied under different contracts but were considered and referred to as the same basic car type the city of nY referred to the cars by their contract number even if they were the same basic car type as was the case with the R-1 through 9 , R-27/30s etc. In recent years, however, it seems that even cars that are supposed to be the same basic car type like the R-62s and 62As or R-68 and 68 As which are merely sub types to the basic contract number have enough differences between the types that they often either cannot be or in any event are not operated in mixed trains. Unfortunately the cesspool of incompetence that passes for upper MTA and NYCTA management seem to lack the will to DEMAND that certain car contracts be compatible with others as was done in the past. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Nov 16 16:25:50 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 16 00:04:31 2013. Perhaps a reminder to re-sync attached to the C/R board at 125 would be sufficient. |
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Posted by snarf368 on Sat Nov 16 21:53:59 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by R46 5636 on Sat Nov 16 11:15:25 2013. R46 5636 said "The reason the MTA tries to keep the amount of text minimal on the LED signs is because if it goes over a certain limit, It will scroll (Just look at the 21 St - Queensbridge programming for the (Q) on the R160). "I get that but I'm not talking about exceeding character count on the display. As user GBS pointed out there's no reason to display "5 Ave" instead of "5 Avenue" or even "5 Av-Bryant Pk" if it can fit. Today I observed "34 St-Penn Sta" on the E when clearly "34 St-Penn Station" would have fit. "34 St-Penn Station" is on the strip maps but abbreviated on the overhead. |
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